User talk:Timl/Irrational Number

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Just want to make sure this works properly. --TimL (talk) 11:38, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I still don't understand
I think I'm pretty stupid. I read all of the articles that you mentioned, but still the biggest problem remains (but I have to say that they were really useful; I learned a lot).I'm now ready to translate the article I mentioned. What is the first step?--Irrational number (talk) 14:07, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * No problem. I think we can step this thru.

replace the fārsian text "فارسی" in the URL with the fārsian translation for "Platonic hydrocarbon". You should be presented with a page that allows you to create a new article. What is the Persian translation for Platonic hydrocarbon by the way, if you type it here I can help you start the article. I'll be away for about an hour btw, good luck! --TimL (talk) 14:17, 25 July 2011 (UTC) Its strange it works on English Wikipedia but doesn't work on persian one. maybe I'm missing something?--Irrational number (talk) 14:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC) never mind i made a mistake.--Irrational number (talk) 14:59, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Go to the Persian Wikipedia here: http://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/فارسی
 * Type away.

I had to make an account on Farsi Wikipedia. and I did. with the same username--Irrational number (talk) 15:05, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

another question:How should I cite the article? because i'm translating, it gets a bit strange. should i exactly cite what the English article cites?--Irrational number (talk) 15:24, 25 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm not sure how to answer that, I would say yes, but that would leave your intended audience with references they may not be able to read. I guess, first see if you can find any Persian language references. If not cite the english language references. I honestly have know idea what Wikipedia's guidelines are for citing foreign language texts. You may need to contact the Persian Wikipedia Help Desk to get a better answer. I left a hello on your persian web page, just keep in mind I can't read or write Persian (is that what I should call it?) The Persian that is there was automatically generated. I can copy and paste پارسی though. --TimL (talk) 15:51, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

I just saw a translated page simply saying that English Wikipedia is the reference (bad English didn't know how to put it in!)--Irrational number (talk) 19:39, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Persian equivalent of typo?
What is the persian equivalent of the American colloquialism "typo"? I was trying to fix a typo on my Persian user page. Do a lot of persians know English?

I guess they do, at least the ones on the internet but the persian equivalent however,is غلط املایی.--Irrational number (talk) 19:25, 25 July 2011 (UTC) by the way I just came back home and started translating.--Irrational number (talk) 19:43, 25 July 2011 (UTC)

Next Plan
The chemical synthesis article in Persian is a stub.I think that is my next plan.But is there anything I can do here in the English Wikipedia? I'm still a high school student(and I think I will be studying chemistry in university after this summer) so I don't think I have enough information to edit\create pages about science.Do you have any ideas?--Irrational number (talk) 23:54, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, there are things called WikiProjects. These are groups of people focused on a particular subject. There are sure some related to chemistry. Find one that looks interesting and join the project. They should have list of things that need to be done, take a look at that, see what you think, tell me what projects look interesting to you and get back with me. We'll head off from there. --TimL (talk) 01:04, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Another "how to"
just wanted to put the images in the English version of the article I translated to the Persian version.thanks in advance.--Irrational number (talk) 10:16, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Problem solved! ( صبح بخير ). Did someone do that on their own, or did you find someone to help you on the persian Wikipedia? --TimL (talk) 11:25, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

I didn't say or do anything.:D.The one who did it seems highly interested in chemistry, since all articles he created are about chemistry--Irrational number (talk) 11:53, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

but can you tell me how to put images in articles in general?--Irrational number (talk) 12:02, 26 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Well if the image is already on the fa Wikipedia you just link to it (look at the links in your own article for example). As far as using images from the english Wikipedia, I don't know, I'll have to look into that. I think they are supposed to be copied to the commons first (has a farsi version, look at the bottom). If you need more specific info let me know.--TimL (talk) 12:54, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

long article
I want to translate a long article, and I know that it takes a lot of time (well, much time) and I don't want to leave the article incomplete. so how can I "save" the article somewhere before actually creating it?--Irrational number (talk) 18:44, 29 July 2011 (UTC)--Irrational number (talk) 18:44, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * You can start the article in your user space, than have it moved to Wikipedia proper. For example on the English Wikipedia let's say you wanted to create a long article called "foobar". You would create a new article called User:Irrational number/foobar. Once complete you would move it (or have it moved) to Foobar. Same goes for persian Wikipedia. Say you wanted to translate an article called that will be called (I hope this is gibberish) "لصقغتص". Then you would create an article at fa:کاربر:Irrational number/لصقغتص. And you can edit as long as it takes. Actually the name doesn't even matter as long as ultimately it gets moved to the proper name. You can see at the top of my use and talk pages a link to all my subpages. I have started some articles this way and than copied them to the main Wikipedia (though actually the proper thing to do is move them so that the full edit history goes with it). Let me know if this is clear or not. Cheers! --TimL (talk) 01:58, 30 July 2011 (UTC)