User talk:Timmeh/Archive 1

Taking Back Sunday
The removal of valid sourced statements is not allowed. Also myspace is not considered a good source.Hoponpop69 19:32, 25 August 2007 (UTC) Myspace is a self published source, since it is run by the band itself. You say "MySpace is the best source there is because the band members made and edit their MySpace page" but that's the exact kind of thing wikipedia is against. This cite relies on reliable third party sources, in this case the Rolling Stone article I posted fits this criteria. Please do not remove this source again.Hoponpop69 06:17, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Here are the rules straight from Verifiability : Self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living persons, even if the author is a well-known professional researcher or writer.

Don't remove citation requests!
If you see the words next to something, do not remove it unless you are adding a citation!Hoponpop69 03:14, 27 August 2007 (UTC) "You don't need a citation for every little fact about a band, especially not for a genre. Look at any other band article. There are rarely citations on genres. So do not put the citation request up again because it is not needed." This is not true, see Citing sources. It states that attribution is required for direct quotes and for material that is challenged. There is nothing about not needing it for a genre, and further more there are plenty of articles where genres are sourced, Ramones, Papa Roach, Blink-182, to name a few. As your claim that emo is not a genre because it is a style of music (aren't these the same thing?), is clearly a fringe theory. If you remove the citation or citiation request again I will report you. THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING. Hoponpop69 04:54, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

That unofficial Yellowcard link can't stay

 * Yes, there is a rule that says so; read the rules on external links. -- Orange Mike 02:03, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
 * From WP:EL:''"Links normally to be avoided:


 * 1) Links to blogs and personal web pages, except those written by a recognized authority."'' -- Orange Mike  12:34, 28 August 2007 (UTC)

Yellowcard
Stop reverting changes that were made to the Yellowcard page and adding the French UNOFFICIAL fan page. We've discussed these topics already. If your repeated reverts and editing vandalism continues, I will ask an admin to step in and stop you from editing. Imaslee pviking ( talk ) 20:18, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
 * What about this edit? Lying isn't nice. Imaslee pviking ( talk ) 01:34, 31 August 2007 (UTC)

I am not a Yellowcard fan, but this article is poorly written, with unnecessary amounts of verbiage and facts that cannot be referenced. You are aware of Wikipedia's quality guidlines, correct? I tried to clean it up a bit, but it the older, sloppy, less neutral writing style keeps coming back JDM2004 (talk) 21:49, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

reply
Thanks for the message but I'll be fine. I had an account but it got blocked for a month so I just signed out. The main thing that bugs me is their attitude towards everything. They've got this elitist view that just annoys me and if they block me again there's always proxies. Those images have been there for years now, and just because they feel it is a violation of fair use images or whatever doesn't give them the right to just remove them. If you try to have any logical talk with them at all they just hit you with a million things like WP:Policy WP:Bullshit WP:Howtobeanelitistprick. Edit wars may be pointless, but there's not much else that can be done —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.253.116 (talk) 06:15, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Images
If you look at Manual of Style it says that "Specifying the size of a thumb image is not recommended: without specifying a size the width will be what readers have specified in their user preferences, with a default of 180px (which applies for most readers)." because "...some users need to configure their systems to display large text. Forced large thumbnails can leave little width for text, making reading difficult." Also if someone is using a large monitor with 1600x1200 for the resolution they may have set their preferences to 300px and then the images will be too small for them. If you click on "my preferences" and then go to files you can set the size you want to see the images at but don't force others to your preference. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:08, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Ah, the flags. Have a look at Don't overuse flags. It dosen't really add anything as the country name and link is already there. This time it happened to be a US flag but I tend to remove any when making other edits. By the way if you look at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style there are some people who weere discussing having the deafult thumbnail made larger. It also turns out that users may not know that they can change the thumbnail size. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 15:22, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Please do not remove requests for citations
Thank you.Hoponpop69 18:36, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Reporting you
I gave you that last warning because I thought this was the first time you'd done this, and no one had warned you about that. However after checking your history I noticed that I personally had given you multiple warnings earlier, which you had deleted from your talk page (and which I've restored). I am going to file a report on you later today. This is a heads up. Hoponpop69 19:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Talk:Yellowcard
Don't restore personal attacks and remove my comments, it can be seen as vandalism. — M o e   ε  20:32, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Yes you did —  M o e   ε  22:44, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * This is an undeniable fact that you did do that. I suggest you just say that it won't happen again. — M o e   ε  22:53, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Fine, just don't reinsert it an no problems should reoccur. Regards, — M o e   ε  22:58, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Wrong Person
I'm the one who keeps readding the sources info, not removing it. 69.249.253.77 01:30, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

No, I'm the one who keeps changing it back to Pop punk. 69.249.253.77 04:26, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I'm the person who sourced it in the first place.69.249.253.77 04:34, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

I have one, usually edit as Inhumer. I just haven't logged in to edit in a while. 69.249.253.77 01:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

Panic! At The Disco
An edit dispute is not vandalism, please do not confuse the two. Zazaban 23:09, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Please assume good faith and not threaten to get me blocked over an edit dispute. I've been in edit disputes before and have never gotten blocked over it. It's quite common on wikipedia. Zazaban 23:15, 7 October 2007 (UTC) Assume good faith Zazaban 23:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Can't we just disscuss this civilly? I do not agree with your edits, as you don't agree with mine. The difference here is I am not acccusing you of vandalism. Just not liking an edit is not reason enough to cry vandalism. Zazaban 23:26, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Green Day Genre Section
Hi, do you have a specific reason for separating the genres on the Green Day article by commas? As pages for contemporary bands such as Rancid, The Offspring, Jimmy Eat World, Bloc Party have the genres stacked.Jacknife737 23:43, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

Thank you, i was unaware of that policy.Jacknife737 04:00, 24 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Again, that link is not policy, it is only a guidline. In addition, it does not state how to present genres for artists. A consensus has not been reached as yet (see the talk page). Only album infoboxes have a consensus as to how to present the genres. As such, either way is acceptable for arist infoboxes, and it is best to leave them as they originally were until/when/if a consensus is reached on how best to display them. Nouse4aname 07:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
 * No worries. It's a bit annoying (and confusing) why all infoboxes cannot be formatted the same way. Unfortunately it seems different people are involved in different areas, and so the same decisions are unlikely to be made, even if it would mean things look a lot tidier. I only brought it to your attention as its the sort of thing that can quickly spiral into an edit war...hopefully a decision will be made soon. You are right however, the sample info box does seem to indicate comma separation....happy editing. Nouse4aname 13:33, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

Misplaced warn?
As per this: Gurch doesn't seem involved here; is the warning a mistake? Gscshoyru 13:21, 25 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Not at all, it's well-known that all Wikipedia's problems are in fact my fault – Gurch 15:36, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

Riot single
I do have a source. There is a channel called Galaxie and it plays "Riot" continuously on the "RockAlternative" part. And it has been very popular on radios, music channels, etc..., so "Riot" should stay --Crocodileman 22:02, 27 October 2007 (UTC)

Sum 41 Former Memebers
Richard Roy & Mark Spicoluk ARE former members. GO TO WWW.THERESNOSOLUTION.COM, GO TO BAND, THEN GO TO BIOGRAPHY, AND READ THE BIOGRAPHY, TAKE ACTUAL TIME TO READ IT, YOU IDIOT, AND DON'T LABEL CRAP THAT ISN'T TRUE —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.14.79.189 (talk) 02:08, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

Genres
Hi, Tim. I noticed you edited Fall Out Boy, ignoring an edit page notice. I urge you to read the instructions for the template you are editing, Template:Infobox musical artist. "The genre or genres of music performed by the act. Aim for generality." Infoboxes are not for listing the various sub-genres of a band. That's what the article is for. Rock may be a broad term for FOB, but they are a rock band. As noted in the edit box, a notice for which you removed in your edit, pop-punk and emo are discussed in the body of the article.

Also, you wrote, "rock is way to broad of a genre for a band". Really? Not all bands fall under sub-genres. Those that do should discuss it in the body of the article, not the infobox.  Lara  ❤  Love  14:56, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
 * You're listing far too many genres. Alternative rock, Pop, Punk, Dance, etc, those are the types of genres that should be listed. Pop-punk, Rap-rock, etc, are subgenres and should be discussed in the body. Do what you will with your frequented articles, but I took FOB through GA, don't compromise that.  Lara  ❤  Love  15:11, 2 November 2007 (UTC)

yellowcard image
hi tim

i noticed you changed my inage change and lots of bands have two images on their wiki page, i think it looks alot better, it will advertise their logo more. The image i put on is their official paper walls promo shot, the one you put back was probably took by someone on a camera at a show, looking at the set its a two year old photo anyway, my updated one was much more suitable.

Alex15alex

Escape the Fate
Tim, You must understand

I am Omar from Escape the fate. And I am no longer in the band. the ETF myspace hasnt been updated for the reason the guys have all been really busy. And also because I think the guys are trying to hide the truth from here fans. I can promise you that I am no longer in the band and I would like for you to quit telling me you are gonna ban me for editing the info.

Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xsyner (talk • contribs) 05:39, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Re: Talk Page
Thank you for your interesting on my talk page, but I don't want to archive it. And sorry for any English mistake :) — Jhn*  23:27, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
 * No, and sorry for that :) — Jhn*  00:01, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

Status bot
The bot is very slow and will take it while to realize the template has been added to your page when it finally says either online or offline you may have to do it manually at User:StatusBot/Status/Tim62389 as the bot is currently very slow --Java7837 (talk) 04:23, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Never mind I fixed it--Java7837 (talk) 04:29, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

Amber Pacific
"Hi. I see you have recently removed the tag from Amber Pacific. Is there a reason for doing this? I reverted your edit because I am pretty sure that the article is a stub. Tell me if I'm wrong and I'll revert my edit, but this definitely looks like a stub article." ╦ﺇ₥₥€Ԋ(talk/contribs) 16:02, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

You wrote that on my talk page, my response : I didn't change it, I made it from a stub to a music stub. Warrior4321 16:05, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

K thx —Preceding unsigned comment added by Warrior4321 (talk • contribs) 16:10, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

OK, we all make grammar errors. Big deal. Grow up JazzlineB (talk) 00:41, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry, it seemed like I was being blamed a little bit, one summary said whoever wrote the article needed to improve grammar. I'm sorry if I overreacted. By the way, the person doing most of the editing is Knight Whitefire. JazzlineB (talk) 00:55, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

Knight Whitefire
His grammar and spelling are horrible. If you look at his talk page, you'll find he can't even spell "grammar". JazzlineB (talk) 04:01, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm afraid that we may have offended Knight Whitefire or hurt his feelings, by saying he has bad grammar (I made a smart remark on his talk page), since he has not edited for a few days now. If he is offended, this is my fault. JazzlineB (talk) 23:35, 17 December 2007 (UTC)


 * He needs to be blocked. I simply talked to him about a small issue and now he's arguing with me. He's acting like he is eleven. He probably is. JazzlineB (talk) 02:22, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

HI
hey dude, "vandalism" ? , what i wrote in the mcr article is true dude, it isnt an" unconstructive edit".and i love yellowcard!! like u ! = D don't u see my nick ? lol --GuTTy-YC (talk) 00:34, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Your recent edit to My Chemical Romance has been reverted because it is considered vandalism. Please do not remove notices and completely ignore them. If you continue to make unconstructive edits, you will be blocked from editing. Thank you. ╦ﺇ₥₥€Ԋ(talk/contribs) 21:48, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Requests for adminship/Footballfan190
I just wanted to drop a note to thank you for your constructive comment made in this RfA. You may or may not be aware of the recent discussion at the RfA talk page over civility and not biting newcomers in regards to these sort of RfAs and I found your response to be exemplary of how to approach it. I actually posted a talk message to the user basically saying the same thing before I even fully read what you wrote. Good stuff, happy editing to you. Keegan talk 07:36, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

RfA Thanks

 * -- AKeen (talk) 15:29, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

RFA thanks card
Sorry, I somehow missed you when deciding who had contributed enough to my RFA to get a card...

RfA thanks

 * Gee, all I got were a pair of rubber gloves. Cheers. Kbthompson (talk) 16:05, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Panic! at the Disco naming
I work in the music industry and the band HAS changed their name to "Panic At The Disco".. first letter in each word capitalized and NO exclamation point. As for sources.. check anywhere they are listened on fueledbyramen.com, myspace.com/fueledbyramen, look at their section on the press site: http://www.fueledbyramen.com/press. Please correct and thanks much! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Synbill (talk • contribs)
 * Sorry for reverting your edits, but you didn't provide a source at first. Please take a look at WP:CS for info on how to correctly cite sources for facts. I will remove the exclamation point, but "at" and "the" cannot be capitalized per WP:BAND. It doesn't matter what the official name is, these words cannot be capitalized on Wikipedia. Thanks. Tim  meh contribs  23:20, 9 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Timmeh, I'm not too sure, but were you the one who copy the content on "Panic! at the Disco" and pasted it on "Panic at the Disco"? If so, next time, please move the page as opposed to manually doing so. (It looks that way.) Do you have any clue as to how the problem may be resolved? You see, when you move the page manually, you don't preserve the edit history of the page. Qwerty (talk) 05:55, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Pretty. Odd. spelling and grammar
Timmeh,i'm sorry for my spelling i made it in a rush because i needed to do something.I thank you for correcting them but you didnt have to be such a jerk about it.Parralax (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 23:17, 10 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Please don't make personal attacks toward another user. Your spelling and grammar was horrible. I also see that you are still not putting spaces after periods and commas, even in your last message. If you're in too much of a hurry to type correctly, you shouldn't be editing Wikipedia. It is an encyclopdia, and obviously spelling and grammar are two extremely important things. Tim  meh !  00:08, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

Rudget!
Dear Timmeh, my sincere thanks for your support in my second request for adminship, which ended with 113 supports, 11 opposes, and 4 neutral. I would especially like to thank my admin coach and nominator, Rlevse and Ryan Postlethwaite who in addition to Ioeth all inspired me to run for a second candidacy. I would also like to make a special mention to Phoenix-wiki, Dihyrdogen Monoxide and OhanaUnited who all offered to do co-nominations, but I unfortunately had to decline. I had all these funny ideas that it would fail again, and I was prepared for the worst, but at least it showed that the community really does have something other places don't. Who would have though Gmail would have been so effective? 32 emails in one week! (Even if it does classify some as junk :P) I'm glad that I've been appointed after a nail biting and some might call, decision changing RFA, but if you ever need anything, just get in touch. The very best of luck for 2008 and beyond, Rudget . 15:33, 12 January 2008 (UTC)

About the Third wave Emo
Yeah they are, and my source is wikipedia right here, and it states so in the "emo" article in the part about "third wave emo" bands. i mean, yeah maybe its not Emo, but its definitely in the "third wave emo" which has nothing to do with the original Emo anyway. —Preceding unsigned comment added by HentaimanXT (talk • contribs) 16:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks
John Carter (talk) 21:55, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

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Copy & paste move
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 * Thanks for fixing my font color. If you read the Panic at the Disco talk page, you would see my reply to another concerned editor. I was unaware that the history would not be moved also, and I didn't really take that into consideration. However, I do know how to correctly move a page, and the template was unnecessary. I prefer templates not to be used to start conversations with me as they are not always specific to the issue. Tim  meh !  21:09, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
 * I have looked at that talk page, and didn't see any discussion about the page being moved. However, since there are so many redirects to the article now, I suppose it could be on a talk page attached to one of those redirects, and I didn't bother to check all of them.  --Russ (talk) 14:24, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
 * It was there. Someone deleted it. It should've stayed, since the other editor didn't reply, or it should've at least been archived. Either way it was there a few days ago. Tim  meh !  19:32, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

Your signature and your talk page
Hi there, sorry to be a terrible bore, but your signature's a bit too long and should really be cut down to a more reasonable length, it's also a little difficult to read, especially for those users with eyesight problems, as is your talk page. I'm not overly concerned about having your userpage in this colour scheme, but it's going to cause some users a bit of difficulty. If you could possibly change your signature to something shorter (in terms of the overall length, not how it's dispayed) and perhaps choose a more user friendly colour scheme on your talk page, that would be much appreciated. Kind Regards. Nick (talk) 11:46, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry about the colors and signature length. I made the font on the talk page a little brighter and shortened my signature. Thanks for the notice. Tim  meh !  15:56, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Could you make your signature a bit smaller? It's excessively large: far larger than surrounding text. Maybe this would be okay?: Tim  meh  !  ·  AndonicO  Hail!  14:42, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Alright, I changed it. Thanks for the input. Hopefully my signature and talk page layout are satisfying everyone's needs now. Tim  meh  !  16:15, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Still large, but it's good. Thank you very much. The talk page is extremely annoying to read, but maybe that's just me... (Don't get me wrong, black's my favorite color). · AndonicO  Hail!  23:00, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Name
Thanks for telling me. I picked it because it was the only thing I could think of that would actually last. At the time, I thought my username was a good idea. So where can I request a username change? ― LADY GALAXY 01:30, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Never mind, I found it and added my request to that page. Thanks for telling me, however. ― LADY GALAXY 01:41, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * No problem. If you ever need help in the future, don't be afraid to ask. I come on to check my watchlist and messages every day so you're guaranteed to get a quick answer. Tim  meh !  02:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Re: Copyright violation?
If it was linked to the band's site or record label's site (or even MTV) that would be one thing but it's on a site where anyone can upload anything regardless of copyright. It is most likely unlicensed and therefore a copyright violation. In matters like these it's preferable to err on the side of caution. Precious Roy (talk) 18:50, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
 * Ok. Thanks for the info. Tim  meh  !  19:03, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Linkin Park
Discussion about Linkin Park not being alternative rock is here:. WesleyDodds (talk) 07:04, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Pretty. Odd.
Thank you for the information, I just tried to correct the title from Preety Odd to the actual album name Pretty. Odd. Knight Whitefire (talk) 00:52, 23 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I see what you tried to do. However, the talk page has not been moved and that needs to be done once a decision is made on whether the periods should be in the name or not. Tim  meh  !  00:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Regarding my automatic block

 * Thank you very much. I've changed my password and put a security key on my router so it shouldn't happen again. Tim  meh  !  00:08, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks
I'm sorry you felt I am inexperienced to become an admin. I hope that by performing more edits on Wikipedia in the next few months that I could possibly change your mind by my next RfA, possibly around May 2008. - Jameson L. Tai  talk ♦ contribs 04:53, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
 * As long as you continue to edit actively until May I will gladly support you, regardless of self-nom or not. The reason I didn't support was because you have only been editing actively for 3 or 4 months and I believe you need more experience. Better luck in May. Tim  meh  !  23:14, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks
I am not one for sending round pretty pictures, but after my recent RfA, which passed 68/1/7, I am now relaxed and this is to thank you for your support. I will take on board all the comments made and look forward to wielding the mop with alacrity. Or two lacrities. --<font color="7F007F">Rodhullandemu  (Talk) 21:01, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

Ultraexactzz is now an Administrator
My RfA was successful, and closed with 44 Supports, 6 Opposes, and 1 Neutral. For your support, you have my thanks - I fully intend to live up to the lofty yet not-a-big-deal responsibility you have granted me. For those who opposed my candidacy, I value your input and advice, and hope that I may prove worthy of your trust. Special thanks to both Rudget  and  bibliomaniac  1  5  for their expert coaching and guidance. I look forward to serving the project, my fellow editors, the pursuit of higher knowledge, et cetera, et cetera. Again, you have my thanks. UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 01:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

German Battleship Bismarck
Hi, re your recent edit: I reverted two changes ('battlecruiser' is correct, not battle cruiser: see the article battlecruiser if you like) and "onboard" is also correct, being an old nautical term. All the best, bigpad (talk) 09:55, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Whoops. Sorry about those edits. My spellchecker showed the ones with the space being correct. I hope it didn't cause too much inconvenience. Tim  meh  !  14:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

RfA thanks from Happy-melon
I just wanted to say thanks for your support for my RfA, which closed (74/2/0) this morning. Your comment and support was very much appreciated. <b style="color:forestgreen;">Happy</b>‑<b style="color:darkorange;">melon</b> 10:04, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Edit summary
I assume you are unaware of otherwise you wouldn't said: "mind discussing genres before reverting good faith edits several times?". You could have seen the reasoning just a little bit further down the edit histoy if you'd looked. This is a serial vandal who was blocked in May 2007 and still continues to vandalise. I have been fighting this vandal for months and months and I now have rollback, which thankfully, makes this arduous task incredibly fast. I am extremely frustrated by them, but I find that copy and pasting the same edit summary, or using rollback, prevents me from showing that frustration. Their full history is on AFI-PUNK's user page. <font color="FF69B4">Seraphim&hearts;  Whipp 18:06, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I see that now. He shouldn't be editing at all. Did you try getting that whole ip address range blocked? It might stop his editing for a while. Tim  meh  !  18:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I sent you an email :). <font color="FF69B4">Seraphim&hearts;  Whipp 19:05, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Yeah sure I'll help out as much as I can. Tim  meh  !  21:36, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hello again. I re-read the first message I left for you and I would like to apologise. I must have let the frustration of dealing with that vandal interfere with the way I interacted with you, and for that I apologise. <font color="FF69B4">Seraphim&hearts;  Whipp 11:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Papa Roach
SO you say i have to stop and you can make far as now? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.211.87.24 (talk) 18:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

Escape The Fate edit
Ok Tim, First of all there were not any grammar errors in that edit. But there were spelling errors and I apologize for those. I do speak English Very Fluently and will continue to edit articles that I know about and that I find mistakes in (I always double check my resources/spelling/grammar before I do by the way).

P.S. Just so you Know I was born in Kingman, Arizona and Raised in Las Vegas, Nevada so I am clearly American with English as my native language so please do not tell me english is not my native language. I have had an excellent vocabulary and good spelling as well since 3rd grade. I was a bit tired the day I edited that article so I disregarded the spelling and I apologize to those who had a hard time comprehending what I wrote. . —Preceding unsigned comment added by DearxDiary (talk • contribs) 01:18, 3 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I don't recall leaving you a message and your talk page has not been edited. In fact, the only edits you made were to my talk page. Could you specify what ip you were when I left this message about your grammar? Tim  meh  !  02:16, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

double positions...
You are currently logged as being in Support and being Neutral on Requests for adminship/Master of Puppets 2. Please be sure to take only one position. Thanks, Kingturtle (talk) 21:45, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Tōon-ryū
The original nominator posted his rationale here, please reconsider your "keep". Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 02:54, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!
Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Timmeh! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page. βcommand 17:25, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

Talk:Pretty. Odd.
I deleted a persons remark on Pretty. Odd.'s discussion page because it was not a comment but more of a cynical hate-shot at the band. I will continue to remove such nonsense until wikipedia stops such people airing such hateful views on openly viewable pages. It's them you should be shouting at...not me.. Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.194.211 (talk) 00:11, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Actually, the person could easily have been trying to get rock removed as the genre of the album. The talk page is for discussing the article and how to improve it. That comment was legitimate and should stay. If you continue to remove legitimate comments, you will be blocked. Unless the comment has obviously nothing to do with the article in question or improving it, you may not remove it. Tim  meh  !  00:16, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

You might have a point.. if his words were not "Anyone with ears can hear that!" A simple "i dont think the band are rock, more alternative, i'm considering changing it" might have done. I like how you continuosly threaten me with the block feature. I'm trying to keep normality and unbias on these pages and you're helping the haters, maybe because you are one yourself. If i was to remove the album artwork would you moan at me for that as well? Even though it's breaking copyright law by having it there... Thanks :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.156.194.211 (talk) 00:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Exactly.. You're a bad excuse for an editor, it's a shame wikipedia allows people like you to have any control at all. --81.156.194.211 (talk) 00:38, 10 February 2008 (UTC)


 * No, the album cover is not breaking copyright law by being there. Wikipedia is based on neutrality and assuming good faith. Before making editing decisions, I suggest you read up on these and other Wikipedia policies. I am not threatening to block you at all. If you knew anything about Wikipedia, you would know that only administrators can block users and ip addresses. If you would like to continue editing constructively on Wikipedia, you should learn about what Wikipedia is and what its goals are. Also, do not make personal attacks toward another editor like you did above. It is one of the most important policies here. I ask you to not be prejudice against other users, as this will get you blocked if it continues. Tim  meh  !

00:44, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok, tell me this. Did Panic at the disco or their management approve the use of the Pretty. Odd. album cover? I seriously doubt it. I'd like to know how it avoids copyright law. --81.156.194.211 (talk) 01:22, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Notice how the image has a fair use rationale. Wikipedia is very strict on copyright laws, especially with images. Don't ask me to explain the whole concept to you, but the image would have been deleted by now if it didn't have a specific and legitimate fair use rationale that justifies its usage on Pretty. Odd.. Tim  meh  !  01:32, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Ok surely i can cast off any picture as fair use myself then? But nevermind, if you didn't have such good music taste i would be angry. Thanks for lining out the bad comment above. Sorry and thanks --81.155.197.77 (talk) 21:24, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

RFA thanks
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Sum 41 images
I inserted a handful of images in the Sum 41 article. You removed them. The consensus seems to be that the top of the article is a bad place for them. Where would you propose they go instead? Or do you believe the article benefits from their absence, as your comment implies?

I'm slightly miffed that my contribution in the one area that Wikipedia is sorely lacking would have so little value. Or have I misread the intent of your revision comments? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexdi (talk • contribs) 21:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You're not assuming good faith in this matter. The images you added just don't look right in the lead paragraph of the article. Also, images should not be added unless they contribute significantly to the informational content of the article. These don't. If someone wanted to see a picture of each band member, they could easily go to each member's own article. Also, you added pictures of Deryck, Cone, and Tom Thacker, and you didn't add one of Stevo. After another editor changed the Thacker picture to one of Stevo in a photo shoot, not live like the others, I removed all the images because I knew an edit war would ensue. One editor would want only the three official members of Sum 41 there and another would want Tom Thacker there too. Basically, the images are not needed and just take up space. If you still wish to use them, you are welcome to add them to the respective band member's own article, if it seems better than the picture already there. Also, please remember to always assume good faith and be a little nicer to other editors. Tim  meh  !  21:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You posted this comment:
 * "these images should not even be here. i see an edit war coming and the images are so out-of-place anyway."
 * If it isn't bad faith to delete an entire section on the presumption of an edit war, then there is no such thing. You didn't even bother to move the images. Would it have been so difficult? Do you place so little value on the work of others that the solution of dumping everything without discussion was more amendable to you? What kind of editor are you?
 * Alexdi (talk) 06:04, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The images are pointless. Give me one good reason why the images should stay on the page. Tim  meh  !  21:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not sure the previous post got through. You're an editor. Edit. Don't delete without discussion. It's not your place to determine whether the content should exist, and frankly strikes me as WP:Ownership. If you can't figure out the purpose of live images of a band on the band's page, there's not much I can do to help you. Alexdi (talk) 18:26, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
 * The images have NO purpose other than to decorate the page, which is unnecessary. Images should only be added if they significantly add to the article's informational content. These obviously don't. Go ask an experienced user in these kinds of matters. They will tell you that no band article should have pictures of all the members. Those pictures should be on each member's own article, if he has one. Also, do you see any other band articles with pictures of the members? No. So please do not argue with me. Ask someone else if you wish, but I'm not discussing this anymore. Tim  meh  !  23:33, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Message from Corndog101
fine!

---dylan (talk) 23:44, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

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User:AFI-PUNK
Thanks for the message, I have sent a note to User:Seraphim Whipp and at WP:AN to let other admins aware of the situation on the matter and if he continues, Deutsche Telekom AG the network provider may have to be contacted for this. You can add some comments on WP:AN if necessary. I've reprotected Papa Roach which I had un-protected myself in September 2007 because of the socks. IP Range blocks are possible but they must be as short as possible since it can thousands of computers and users, and if only the situation is really bad, so basically it is not really recommending to block a whole range of IPs, and only used as a last resort. The best way is to simply protect a particularly targeted page for a certain period. The Papa Roach article is locked for 4 weeks while AFI was already protected due to libel concerns by [User:Can't sleep clown will eat me]]-- JForget 18:16, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Linkin Park
I think you may be relyng too much on your own POV in the application of the genre alternative rock to Linkin Park articles, particularly in regards to articles related to Minutes to Midnight. WesleyDodds (talk) 23:00, 21 February 2008 (UTC)


 * What evidence do you have of this? I just believe that rock is too broad of a genre and alternative rock better describes the album. I can provide sources if you wish. Tim  meh  !  23:14, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * First of all, let me say I have no personal issue with you and I applaud your efforts with Linkin Park-related articles. I just think you're apporaching this aspect wrong. On the Minutes to Midnight talk page you wrote, "There are only 3 songs that can be classified as alt metal. This makes up only a small portion of the album. Also, the heavier songs seem to have more of a punk rock influence in them than metal. Alternative rock is the best way to describe the album as a whole . . ." That's bordering on original research, particularly with the use of "seem". Now, I've done a lot of research on both heavy metal and alternative rock (I helped Heavy metal music pass an Featured Article Review). I've seen many references from reliable sources that categorize Linkin Park as some form of metal. I've seen virtually none that classify the band as any form of alternative rock. Logically, if you think "rock" is too broad, the genre for the album page should be "Heavy metal". When it comes down to it, Linkin Park is consistently placed in the nu metal movement and the broader alternative metal grouping. Stylistically they have nothing to do with alternative rock or any of its major subgenres. WesleyDodds (talk) 23:29, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Only a few skate punk songs on the blink-182 Cheshire Cat cd, only a few, not the whole cd
Yo sorry about last message I sent you I was pissed off. But there are a few skate punk songs from the blink-182 demos that are on Cheshire Cat & mabye possibly Dude Ranch. Actually, I wasn't trying to say blink was skate punk, I was just putting a genre of some of the songs. But if skate punk gets deleted again, I won't put it back.

Rap metal not Rap rock
It cannot be rap rock when it's mixed with metal first it doesen't make sence and of course you can't call something rap rock when it's not mixed with rock THATS A FACT. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alice Mudgardens (talk • contribs) 21:57, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Rap metal just redirects to rap rock, which is basically the same thing. That's why there is not rap metal article. However, you are completely welcome to add rap metal as the genre if you can find a reliable source. Tim  meh  !  22:08, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Changing English spellings/grammar to American English
Please stop altering English to American English spelling or grammar on the Bismarck page. The use of the serial comma is not British standard, neither are -ize spellings. Please see WP:ENGVAR. Thanks. Narson (talk) 13:16, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


 * You need to calm down and assume good faith. I already know about the -ize spellings which you would have known if you would have read my reply to bigpad's message above, and actually neither usage nor non-usage of the serial comma is the British or American standard. Different sources recommend different usages, whether in American English or British English. However, there really is no ambiguity, so it doesn't need to be changed. I apologize for the inconvenience, but you need to give more accurate and understandable reasons for reverting edits and assume good faith. Tim  meh  !  15:23, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I was not irate nor did I revert you. Please do not scream WP:AGF at people when they simply inform you of guidelines or of your errors, it is quite jarring. Narson (talk) 19:14, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I know you didn't revert me, but you did not just inform me of my errors. You told me to stop altering the grammar and spelling to American English, and I find that quite rude. You did not need to inform me about the -ize endings, which you would have known if you would have read bigpad's earlier post. You could have said something along the lines of "I reverted your recent edit to German battleship Bismarck because...", not "Please stop altering English to American English spelling or grammar on the Bismarck page." I could have said to please not scream WP:ENGVAR at people when they are simply trying to improve the encyclopedia. The edit was my mistake and I realize that, but you absolutely did not need to tell me to stop changing it. You could have approached this in a much nicer way and then explained why my edit was reverted instead of demanding me to stop. Your first comment was quite jarring, and I am only trying to help the encyclopedia as I have been doing so I advise you to take a slightly nicer approach next time something like this happens. Tim  meh  !  20:27, 29 February 2008 (UTC)