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The Bugle: Issue 210, October 2023
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Hi. Sorry, I didn't understand your comment as it has no specifics? Which of the points in my edits exactly need consensus? Current version has a lot of mistakes, hence I had them fixed. In case additional sources are required, please request them instead of removing information. Korwinski (talk) 22:56, 6 October 2023 (UTC)


 * UPD. Upon reviewing prior discussions on the article I can see that there wasn't any discussion about this part of the article. So currently there was a silent consensus that had gone away the moment I made my edits as per Silence and consensus. As a sign of good will I had started a discussion on talk page there and won't make new edits on the article for the next few days. But unless any valid points will be stated so we can come up with a new wording, I'm afraid I will have to undo your revert.
 * Note that you had said:
 * "Replacing one interpretation with another is not holding a NPOV"


 * I didn't do that:
 * 1. Current version does not mention All-Russian nation ideology at all. And then in Soviet part it says:
 * "modified version of the Russian which "allotted equal rights to the Kievan inheritance to the Three Slavic peoples"


 * But that isn't true as prior All-Russian nation approach did that as well, just claiming that there was one single Russian nation made up of sub-ethnic Malorossians, Velikorossians and Belorussians.
 * 2. Current version is not neutral towards Ukrainian view and makes claims like "Ukraine was not defined as a state until 20th century" (Ukraine was one of the official and colloquial names of the Cossack Hetmanate) and "The Ukrainian view was formulated much later, between the 1840s and the end of the 1930s in Eastern Austria": a) it should've been Eastern Galicia as Kingdom of Galicia and Lodomeria wasn't part of Austria since 1867 and part of Austro-Hungary since 1919. Moreover in case you check the source (page 3) there's nothing about "Eastern Austria"; b) it's saying that regarding Modern era Ukrainian historiography, while I've added more descriptive overview and shifts in Ukrainian historiography since 13th century. And since we're describing Russian historiography starting from 1330s and not just the Modern era one, it's only fair to describe the shifts in Ukrainian historiography starting with Galicia-Volhynia-centric chronicles. Given that the current source in the article does that as well. See page 8:
 * "The Galician-Volhynian dynasty devised its own ideological program vis-avis Kiev and the all-Rus’ inheritance based on the law of investiture, on patrimonial ties with the Kievan dynasty, and on the special relationship to Kiev of religious objects. This program is set forth in the Galician-Volhynian Chronicle, the third major component of the Hypatian Codex. Of particular significance is the special “Introduction” to the Hypatian Codex, which explicates the exclusive historical and dynastic rights of the Galician-Volhynian house to the Kievan succession"


 * Korwinski (talk) 15:53, 7 October 2023 (UTC)


 * Reply: If there are reliable sources stating two different views/interpretations/etc, you do not remove a pervious version in preference to your version. This violates NPOV. If you can find references demonstrating that one view has been discredited/disproved by a consensus of reliable sources (not just a difference of opinion or disagreement), you can include this information (phrased neutrally, with due weight) with references.  // Timothy :: talk  16:12, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * 1. I'm right now literally using the source in the article and the only source for that paragraph?
 * 2. It covers information only on formation of Vladimir-Suzdal and Galicia-Volhynia. There's no information in that article about Ukrainian historiography from 14th century and up until 1840s.
 * 3. Its not NPOV:
 * a) It uses trope about "Austrian Galicia" (also no mention of that in the source)
 * b) It says "The Russian view sees [...] as the sole heir to the Kievan Rus' [...] because [...] Ukraine was not defined as a state until 20th century" (also no mention of that in the source)
 * c) Its literally 73 words or 444 characters to explain Russian view and just 33 words or 196 characters to explain Ukrainian view. With short explanation of how Russian view had gradually developed over time and literally zero information about Ukrainian historiography development on the subject up until 1840s. Korwinski (talk) 17:21, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't know how to be clearer.
 * I am not objecting to the information you are adding.
 * I am objecting to the removal of the sourced information in the article.
 * Both views can be incorporated according to NPOV and WEIGHT.
 * Observe WP:BRD, until there is a consensus per 1RR.  // Timothy :: talk  17:28, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
 * I see. Ok. I will rewright and include dates when Ukrainian view monolineal and exclusivist was formulated. I don't see anything else I hadn't included there. With the exception for cases 3a and 3b (see above). They aren't NPOV and they are not supported by that source. Korwinski (talk) 17:52, 7 October 2023 (UTC)

Away again
Will be away for a few days starting 10/8 due to old man medical stuff. Might be able to check in and reply, but unsure, I might have sketchy internet connect and don't know how I'll feel.  // Timothy :: talk  02:14, 8 October 2023 (UTC)

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What did you remove?
Could i know what you removed of my updates to which i didnt explain? Mooezzz (talk) 15:33, 10 October 2023 (UTC)

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Reversion of edits to 'LGBT in the Ottoman Empire'
Hi, just wanted to clarify that if there's no page number for a book/journal article to back up a claim, said claim is unreliable and possibly even made up, unless a page number can be provided. Please find the page number from the sources that prove the preceding claims. If not, the claims would have to be removed as it's inadequately sourced. Thanks. Omnibenevolence (talk) 20:18, 16 October 2023 (UTC)


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 * And to quote from WP:FIXTHEPROBLEM, . Can I suggest you look at the essay Assume good faith, perhaps? — OwenBlacker (he/him; Talk) 10:58, 17 October 2023 (UTC)

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Hey
Had to remove part of your sentence at ani for t&s reasons. Thought I'll leave a note. Thanks, Lourdes  06:31, 24 October 2023 (UTC)


 * No problem, thanks for dealing with this.  // Timothy :: talk  06:33, 24 October 2023 (UTC)

Away for a few days
Away for a few days for medical stuff. Nothing serious, will try and check in.  // Timothy :: talk  17:41, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
 * Had reasonably stable internet access, but that will probably be changing shortly. I will try and check my AfDs.  // Timothy :: talk  00:18, 29 October 2023 (UTC)

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Articles for deletion/Vasil Terziev
Hi - fyi, I speedy closed this and moved the article per your comments. Regards, Goldsztajn (talk) 00:54, 2 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you, greetings from Los Angeles.  // Timothy :: talk  01:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC)

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Maybe off for a few days, internet access may not be good.  // Timothy :: talk  04:59, 9 November 2023 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue 211, November 2023
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Jijo Anotny
Were you considering a DRV for this by any chance? Was going to file but thought I would check with you first since you were the nominator. CNMall41 (talk) 05:55, 12 November 2023 (UTC)


 * I wasn't, feel free. Greetings from Los Angeles  // Timothy :: talk  06:00, 12 November 2023 (UTC)

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Page of Captain Nazim
Hi Timothy,

I have again come across interesting ways of interpretation of Wikipedia rules. Please check this link and guide me. is it again the GNG.

Draft:Mohamed Nazim

Thanks Existence Leesaaisath 15:34, 6 December 2023 (UTC)


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The Bugle: Issue 212, December 2023
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