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 * Sorry, I didn't know that. Should I do that in the talk page of the article? Thanks! Timothytyy (talk) 01:23, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * I provided the necessary attribution through a series of dummy edits, but you can add copied to the talk page if you want to. * Pppery * it has begun... 13:44, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

Category
Please don't add same tree category in an article. For example: Category:Sportspeople from Hubei and Subcategory Badminton players from Hubei‎ in Sun Feixiang article. Choose the root category. Stvbastian (talk) 17:46, 3 August 2022 (UTC)


 * Noted with thanks, I will be aware of that in the future. Please continue to let me know if I have done something wrong. Timothytyy (talk) 01:23, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

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&maltese; SunDawn &maltese;    (contact)   11:46, 6 October 2022 (UTC)


 * the information I added is the correct one.
 * the address is not Providencia, but Santiago.
 * the initial date is 1995, March 01
 * Owner: public good.
 * the rest of the added information is also correct.
 * not possible to edit or expand.
 * My name is Marta Lagos and I am founding director of the Corporation Latinobarometro.
 * Please correct information. Marta Lagos Cruz Coke (talk) 13:37, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Can you include a reliable source? We do not accept information just because the editor is a member of a company. Also, do not place comments here; start a new section. Timothytyy (talk) 13:40, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
 * @Marta Lagos Cruz Coke Also you are destroying the infobox. I doubt you previewed it before you published your edit. Timothytyy (talk) 13:43, 11 November 2022 (UTC)

Good job you self-reverted
It's a good job you self-reverted this edit. How is it your business why a user retired? Bishonen &#124; tålk 10:38, 29 October 2022 (UTC).


 * At first, I thought the template was added as an attack(when I checked the history there were some attacks), but when I checked the history again I found out that the template was added by the user itself, so I reverted the edit. Sorry if I caused any inconvenience! Timothytyy (talk) 12:35, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Also I noticed that the user was still active a few days ago, so I accidentally removed the template. Removing that template was a mistake and I didn't mean to care about the user's retirement. I will check the history carefully before I do such edits in the future. Thank you for your reminder! Timothytyy (talk) 12:40, 29 October 2022 (UTC)
 * OK. Thank you. Bishonen &#124; tålk 13:14, 29 October 2022 (UTC).

Wrong info on Ross
I only done the current info on Ross Bagdasarian page

If you think your information is correct, than please add a source to verify it. Also please sign off when you send me a message. Timothytyy (talk) 13:17, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Exactly - you need to supply RS support for BLP entries. But -- see your own revert, referenced below, which violates that. --2603:7000:2143:8500:A0CD:E5EB:F5B8:76DB (talk) 07:09, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

Rulon Wells edit
Hey there! There was vandalism on his page so I sought to remove it. Thanks. 2001:48F8:9015:88D:3C3A:FDAB:524:BE38 (talk) 02:15, 4 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your effort, I have restored an earlier version already. Timothytyy (talk) 02:17, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

Your revert
You reverted deletion of an uncited BLP reference, of names that lacks any wikipedia article. That is of course unacceptable. You don't get to input friends and family and non-notable people. If you do not yet know Wikipedia rules, it would I think perhaps be best for you to learn them, such as WP:BLPREMOVE, before reverting editors - to avoid troubling mistakes like this one. Which - given the above comments by you - is especially odd. Kindly revert. 2603:7000:2143:8500:A0CD:E5EB:F5B8:76DB (talk) 07:08, 6 November 2022 (UTC)


 * So can you include a source for every player? It is impossible. Deciding whether a person is notable or not is not by checking if there is an article about him/her. Also, if you really think they are not notable at all, you can explain why. Not having an article is not a valid reason to prove that they are not notable. You may check the article's history if you have any problems. Timothytyy (talk) 07:14, 6 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Did you even read WP:BLPREMOVE? It is quite clear. Those entries have no Wikipedia article, and no refs. There is zero -- zero -- indicia of notability. WP:BLPREMOVE makes clear that they are subject to immediate removal. How can you read it otherwise? You are just making up your own rules, based on your subjective thoughts as to what they should be. But we have rules. Follow them. If you refuse to, let's have an admin review your revert -- which violates WP:BLPREMOVE. Your choice. 2603:7000:2143:8500:A0CD:E5EB:F5B8:76DB (talk) 07:25, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * "Remove immediately any contentious material about a living person that:" do you think the pages you are editing is a BLP? Timothytyy (talk) 07:27, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, was on RC patrol and noticed this.
 * As I undertand, if a "notable persons" list entry doesn't have an article, it is implicitly non-notable, and so should be removed? The list is then expanded as articles are created, and shrunk as they are deleted. Determining which may be notable is outside the scope of article space, and belongs at the appropriate WikiProject. That's my understanding of this. Mako001 (C) (T)  🇺🇦 07:33, 6 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Hi Mako. Yes, I agree - with the caveat that with proper RS refs reflecting both notability (e.g., if a ref says someone played in the NBA or won a Nobel Prize) and that they belong on the list (for example played for the team), it is possible also to have an entry.2603:7000:2143:8500:A0CD:E5EB:F5B8:76DB (talk) 07:38, 6 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Timothytyy--I sent you the page. Which is quite clear.

You seem not to have read it.

Therefore, I quoted relevant rules from the page to you where you also opened discussion here .. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:2603:7000:2143:8500:A0CD:E5EB:F5B8:76DB

It clearly relates to text concerning living persons, even if embedded in articles generally on other than the person himself.

I have written at length to you. Here and on the page I link to two paragraphs above. Editor Mako has written much the same to you. But in your conversations with me - even still on my talk page - you don't understand (or believe?) me or Mako or the rule I sent you. Before bringing in an admin, I'll ask another editor User:Pppery who wrote you above on another subject, whose correction you accepted, if he might help out hear - since my goal is not to have you punished, but to have you understand what you seem to be resistant to understanding perhaps, and having had communication with that editor before perhaps the editor can help.

You simply cannot go around restoring names that lack both wp articles and any RS refs whatsoever to wp, when they have been challenged and deleted. I can't seem to bring you to seeing that. Perhaps User:Pppery can

2603:7000:2143:8500:A0CD:E5EB:F5B8:76DB (talk) 07:32, 6 November 2022 (UTC)


 * See talk page of yours. I will revert my edit. You do not need to talk to me like that just because of one of my reverts out of thousands. If you question my ability, you can check my previous contributions. Timothytyy (talk) 08:06, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I am not overly troubled by your one revert. I am troubled by the fact that it took so many discussions with you for you to accept that your adding uncited deleted/challenged material regarding living people back to the project was wholly improper and violated wp rules. That's in fact a concern. Editors who violate our rules, and don't agree to follow them despite clear discussion, can destroy the willingness of other - good - editors to edit. 2603:7000:2143:8500:A0CD:E5EB:F5B8:76DB (talk) 08:15, 6 November 2022 (UTC)
 * It is quite unique to have new editors so actively participating in discussions, but I must say that I am quite puzzled by your message at first. The first message you sent contained words like "unacceptable", "input friends and family and non-notable people" which I don't understand. "Unacceptable" was the word only used by non-respectful users. You used that word even before I explained my edit. "Input friends and family and non-notable people" just doesn't make sense to the current situation. Therefore, I treated you as disruptive at first, but after your valid reasons, I decided to revert. Please mind your tone at discussions next time, or other editors may misunderstand your stance. Thank you very much for your active participation. Timothytyy (talk) 08:21, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

I have very little interest in engaging with this content dispute, especially given it's unclear what articles this is even about. * Pppery * it has begun... 15:10, 6 November 2022 (UTC)

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appears to be part of the ever-growing menagerie of CarlostheJackal01 socks. Thanks for the AIV report! Sockpuppet investigations/CarlostheJackal01 Cheers Adakiko (talk) 12:38, 14 November 2022 (UTC)

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Pete Stauber
Why you keep taking down facts? Nebnerp (talk) 12:57, 26 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Because the information you added was unsourced and controversial. Timothytyy (talk) 12:58, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I agree, he has zero clue what he’s doing. 70.252.19.143 (talk) 08:43, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

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Badminton players ranking
Hi Timothytyy, please be more precise in editing players ranking. per your last contribution in Praveen Jordan and Melati Daeva Oktavianti articles you input 11 for 13 December 2022 ranking, but per https://bwf.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/category.aspx?id=32640&category=476 said that their ranking is 12. Thanks Stvbastian (talk) 02:14, 14 December 2022 (UTC)


 * @Stvbastian That's my mistake, but it was 11 in yesterday! Never mind, maybe it was just a bug in the website. Sorry for the mistake and thank you for correcting! Timothytyy (talk) 02:17, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Yup.. there is a bug also in tournamentsoftware.com. Previously i see tht in the mixed doubles Goh/Lai rank is #10, but now the ranking is #9. Stvbastian (talk) 06:00, 14 December 2022 (UTC)

Dummy edits
I'm actually curious, who is the user who makes the structure of some badminton articles look untidy. If it's really you, please stop ruin stub structure. Per WP:STUBSPACING, you should leave two blank lines between the first stub template and whatever precedes it. Thank you. Stvbastian (talk) 02:03, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

I now understand the reason. It's not me, it's actually the page creators' fault. Next time you should leave an edit summary explaining your dummy edit. Thank you. Timothytyy (talk) 03:05, 25 December 2022 (UTC)

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 * Thank you, and happy new year for you too! Timothytyy (talk) 01:45, 1 January 2023 (UTC)

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Really sorry for violating again. I will be more careful next time. Thanks! Timothytyy (talk) 00:02, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

RfD relists
Thank you for helping out with the relists at RfD. However, I noticed that you relisted a total of 27(!) discussions on Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 February 21. This is an excessive number of relists, and is therefore unhelpful, as it clogs up the log pages and it prevents other editors from closing and/or participating in discussions. Please take care of this in the future, and make sure to not relist so many discussions at once. Thanks! CycloneYoris talk! 21:58, 21 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the reminder! Sorry for any inconvenience caused. I just wanted to clear the ancient discussion logs. Timothytyy (talk) 00:33, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Relisting old discussions can be counterproductive if a discussion is ready for closure because RfDs tend to get closed from the back of the logs, meaning a relist will delay an inevitable closure. Unless more discussion really is needed, it's usually best to leave old RfDs where they are. Of course, the best way to help out at RfD is by offering meaningful !votes where you're able. -- Tavix ( talk ) 13:44, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * Noted with thanks. Timothytyy (talk) 14:08, 22 February 2023 (UTC)
 * The same happened today. Do not relist a third time unless it is an exceptional case, and while relisting, mention what the exception case was. Jay  💬 07:35, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

User:Jay Never knew that a third relist in rfd requires explanation. Anyways, sorry for the mistake and thanks for reminding! Timothytyy (talk) 11:12, 1 March 2023 (UTC)

AFD relists
Hello, Timothytyy,

I noticed a lot of relists you did today with AFD discussions. Most of them were perfectly fine. But please keep any relisting comments neutral and do not presuppose any closure outcome. It's okay to say things like "this discussion so far is divided between those advocating Keep and those arguing for Delete" or "relisting to allow consideration of Merger option that was just proposed." But the relister shouldn't advocate any outcome and saying "Seeking consensus between Keep and Redirect" doesn't allow for the fact that editors who show up after the relist might have completely different opinions about what should happen with an article.

I'll admit that I'm pointing out a subtle difference here. It's okay to assess the discussion up to that point of relisting but do not try to predict the outcome or advocate any one position because discussions are fluid and can radically change depending on who decides to show up. And I didn't notice whether or not you did this but also, please do not relist discussions early, wait until the 7 day period has passed since they were originally posted or since the last relist. Some NACs mistakenly do this and unnecessarily relisting discussions early can prevent timely AFD closures by admins.

If you have any questions, let me know and I'll try to answer them. Thank you. Liz <sup style="font-family: Times New Roman; color: #006400;">Read! Talk! 05:37, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

Thank you for your reminders! Timothytyy (talk) 08:30, 22 February 2023 (UTC)

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I have sent you a note about a page you started
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"Soft keep"
Hi, Timothytyy. I know this was a couple weeks ago, but I was wondering what exactly you meant in closing as "soft keep" at Articles for deletion/A drive into deep left field by Castellanos. Wouldn't a soft keep be a no consensus? Looks like a regular keep to me, but then again I'm involved. -- Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 06:24, 14 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Sorry for the confusion, I just meant that it is not strong consensus, but keep is still the best result. Timothytyy (talk) 09:53, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
 * No worries!  Probably best to phrase that as "rough consensus to keep".  --  Tamzin  [ cetacean needed ] (she&#124;they&#124;xe) 20:44, 14 March 2023 (UTC)

MOS:LINKSTYLE and MOS:SOB
Hi User talk:Timothytyy, per your contribution in 2023 German Open (badminton), 2023 Swiss Open (badminton), and 2023 All England Open, i see you linking country and title in that articles. Wikipedia rules MOS:LINKSTYLE and MOS:SOB said that Links should not be placed in the boldface reiteration of the title in the opening sentence of a lead; avoid placing links next to each other so that they look like a single link; and for geographic places specified with the name of the larger territorial unit following a comma, generally do not link the larger unit. For example:
 * (Yonex German Open) --> Yonex German Open.
 * Birmingham, England --> Birmingham, England.
 * Addition: There were 2 badminton players named Ondřej Král. For Ondřej Král with BWF id: 82378 please use.

I hope my advice are useful for your next edits. Thanks Stvbastian (talk) 03:31, 22 March 2023 (UTC)


 * Noted with thanks. FYI the content was copied from other articles (per attribution), but I will be more careful next time. Timothytyy (talk) 04:22, 22 March 2023 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Yuna Kato


The article Yuna Kato has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Fails GNG, SIGCOV, and BLP. Sources #1, #2, #4 in the article are primary sources. Source #3 only a trivial mention."

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Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Stvbastian (talk) 17:56, 1 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Issue fixed by adding 2 non-primary sources.
 * Excuse me, why did you PROD an article that passes SNG? According to WP:N:
 * "A topic is presumed to merit an article if:
 * It meets either the general notability guideline (GNG) below, or the criteria outlined in a subject-specific notability guideline (SNG) listed in the box on the right; and
 * It is not excluded under the What Wikipedia is not policy."
 * So GNG, the first reason you gave for PROD, is invalid.
 * WP:SNG says that "The subject-specific notability guidelines generally include verifiable criteria about a topic which show that appropriate sourcing likely exists for that topic", so you should assume that it is notable at first. I understand your concerns about the lack of secondary sources, but PROD is for uncontroversial deletions; In this case it passes SNG, and you still assume it would be uncontroversial? Given that it passes NBAD, SIGCOV is likely to exist even though not much is given. Even if you don't quite understand SNG and the use of PROD, you, as a helpful and hard-working editor, can consider ATDs such as adding sources yourself, or if you are lazy just tag the article with "primary source" or "refimprove" or draftify the article.
 * So SIGCOV, which is the same guideline as GNG, is not a good reason for PRODing this article.
 * For BLP, I don't see any danger of failing WP:BLPRS. WP:V is achieved through primary sources which are not misused according to WP:BLPPRIMARY and WP:PRIMARYNOTBAD, e.g., in the provided sources, the facts of the player and the competition results are uncontroversial. As per SIGCOV, the subject of the article doesn't need to be the subject of the source, so the secondary source also helps the article achieve WP:V. WP:NPOV is achieved. WP:NOR is achieved through independent primary sources and a reliable secondary source.
 * So BLP is invalid for this PROD.
 * I understand the problems you discovered in this article. However, PRODing it is just a strange decision, given that you are an experienced editor. Even when the article passes SNG, you failed to consider ATDs, improve it by yourself, tag the article with useful tags, and know how is PROD used (uncontroversial deletions). Anyway the issue is fixed, and now I am aware how easily notable articles with slight problems with sources could be PRODed. Timothytyy (talk) 01:26, 2 April 2023 (UTC)


 * SNG, GNG, SIGCOV and BLP really concern about sourcing. The source that you added were primary, adequate, and only a trivial mention. There is no sources that have a significant coverage about Yuna Kato. Maybe, you should wait until a significant coverage article about Yuna Kato is published.

Im not an experience editor, but im still learning how to make good articles. PRODing not a strange decision because the article far for notability, and i gave opportunity to other editors to improve the article so the notability can be reached, thats why im not use AFD. Thanks Stvbastian (talk) 05:24, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
 * GNG said: "A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." The article failed 5 points of GNG.
 * SNG said: "Therefore, topics which pass an SNG are presumed to merit an article, though articles which pass an SNG or the GNG may still be deleted or merged into another article, especially if adequate sourcing or significant coverage cannot be found, or if the topic is not suitable for an encyclopedia."
 * All the reason that you said above are not sufficient to satisfy and establish notability, especially for person notability WP:SPORTBASIC.
 * Addition per cite:web: website parameter ("website=Saishunkan badminton", not "website=Saishunkan-badminton.com"; "website=Badminton Europe" or "website= Badminton Europe " not "website= badmintoneurope.com "
 * Per MOS:ALLCAPS: Reduce newspaper headlines and other titles from all caps to title case (KB FINANCIAL GROUP Indonesia Masters 2022 --> KB Financial Group Indonesia Masters 2022).
 * Category: Yuna Kato was born in Gifu city but the category said sportspeople from Toyoma.


 * Never mind, I now know that PROD is used when you want to let other editors improve it, that is fine. I have already added sources at other pages to guarenree SIGCOV. Thanks for your lesson. Timothytyy (talk) 05:42, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Zhu Yijun (badminton) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Zhu Yijun (badminton) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

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Wikiproject tags
Hey, congratulations for making so many pages related to badminton. I would like to thank you for your contributions. Just wanted to drop a friendly note here, can you also please add tag in the talk page of respective article while you add a page in the main space? It would help in determining which Project the article belongs to. Thank you! <b style="color:#fffdd0">zoglophie</b> 09:10, 8 April 2023 (UTC)

Tennis deletions
Hey Timothy. Can you please ease up on nominating tennis articles for deletion. Hans Kary is obviously notable (world no. 54) and has Austrian sources available with a basic internet search.. Robin Drysdale and Chris Mayotte were also top 100 and have no shortage of coverage online (www.newspapers.com). If sources on a page are lacking there are appropriate tags to add such as Template:BLP sources. Jevansen (talk) 11:02, 16 April 2023 (UTC)


 * I agree that Hans Kary is notable, but I only found one source that provides coverage for Mayotte, and no for Drysdale. Can you please provide some coverage for the two? Thanks a lot! Timothytyy (talk) 11:16, 16 April 2023 (UTC)


 * Sure, I'll take a look tomorrow. I'd recommend getting a subscription to newspapers.com if you're going to be notability tagging. You can apply for a free subscription via the Wikipedia Library. Jevansen (talk) 11:21, 16 April 2023 (UTC)

Draftifying articles older than 90 days
Hello. I've found that you've draftified some articles recently and I wanted to make you aware that, per WP:DRAFTIFY, articles older than 90 should not be draftified without prior consensus at AfD. Hey man im josh (talk) 18:08, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
 * It might be worth giving some of these a PROD or AfD, not too many at one time, though. I'm currently working through a lot of BLPs in badminton and I'm surprised to see so many that don't demonstrate GNG or NBAD. To be fair, most of them seem to have been created before the WP:NSPORTS2022 event. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:17, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
 * @Hey man im josh @Spiderone Noted with thanks. I dared not to PROD or AFD articles because somehow someone criticized me for not finding sources on webpages that I do not have access. Never mind, I understand WP:DRAFTIFY now. Thanks. Timothytyy (talk) 01:23, 18 April 2023 (UTC)

Nomination of Zhu Yijun (badminton) for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Zhu Yijun (badminton) is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Zhu Yijun (badminton)& until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article until the discussion has finished. Stvbastian (talk) 17:06, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

Re: Shi Yuqi
Idk if my input above can promote the article to A, but it will help the article look better. Stvbastian (talk) 05:25, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
 * lead too short. ex: need to put his major achievements in lead and ranking 1 information (1st paragraph), his other notable individual achievements (outside major title) and his role in China national team (2nd paragraph).
 * The article use 5 sources from Badmintonplanet. That sources should be replaced with more reliable sources. I've found that some articles from Badmintonplanet only translate from local news or copy from other articles. However, to achieve GA or A, it is best to avoid using sources from Badmintonplanet.
 * Source #29 All England reports but the sources from India website. better use source from BWF, Badzine, newspaper from England or China. Same as #38 (Malaysia Open results but the sources from India), 37, 42, 43, 44, 53.
 * bleacherreport.com. Idk if this website is a reliable sources.
 * too much score reporting in the career section WP:NOTNEWS. Need more improvements for every sentences.
 * need more sources in achievement section.

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Live scores on VNL 2023
Please read and comprehend WP:LIVESCORES. ♒️ 98TIGERIUS 🐯 09:41, 6 June 2023 (UTC)


 * @98Tigerius But is there any discussion on volleyball? Especially when volleyball matches use sets, instead of the snooker scoring system and soccer? I believe a set score is not a violation of LIVESCORES, especially when the discussion to establish a general NOT policy ended with no consensus. But yeah, I will comprehend the policy. Next time please explain your reverts, especially when you are ot reverting vandalism. Thanks. Timothytyy (talk) 09:57, 6 June 2023 (UTC)

DYK nomination of Tianzhou 6
Hello! Your submission of Tianzhou 6 at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and some issues with it may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) at your nomination's entry and respond there at your earliest convenience. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! —Mx. Granger (talk · contribs) 20:19, 10 June 2023 (UTC)

So you just accused me of being a “disruption” for positive edits
Say it to my face how about that 70.252.19.143 (talk) 08:46, 13 June 2023 (UTC)


 * You edits are violating the NPOV policy. If you don't stop your disruptive edits, you will be blocked from editing. Thank you. Timothytyy (talk) 08:47, 13 June 2023 (UTC)

Article assessment
Hi Timothytyy, since u still don't understand how to asses the article, please see and read here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Sports/Assessment, Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries/Assessment, Wikipedia:WikiProject Olympics/Assessment and Wikipedia:WikiProject Tennis/Assessment. You can read in quality scale criteria in all Wikiproject that i mentioned above. All Wikiproject have the same criteria for quality scale (class). Thank you. Stvbastian (talk) 10:51, 20 June 2023 (UTC)


 * Although the criteria are the same, different WikiProjects have different interpretations. The WikiProjects only assess in their own banner shell instead of changing all the classes. E.g. if you aren't familiar with how the members of WikiProject Japan assess articles you should probably only assess in the Badminton Banner Shell, as the members of WikiProject Japan might think that the article doesn't deserve the rating. So different WikiProjects should assess the article individually, why care about others? The quality scale is quite subjective (and general) after all, and everyone has different interpretations. According to this, individual WikiProjects bear the responsibility of article assessment, and according to this, "different projects may use their own variation of the criteria more tuned for the subject area", so the different banner shells (managed by different WikiProjects) are independent. Timothytyy (talk) 10:59, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * I know what you mean. I just don't agree when you assess Tang Jinhua article as B class for WP:BADM, because i think your assess not based on article quality grading scheme. I replaced B to C class in Tang Jinhua article, because it still fail #1 criteria for B class. The article still missed a lot of sources. All WikiProjects have same criteria for quality scale (class). So, we can use that criteria in Wikiproject badminton too (Since WP:BADM not mentioned about quality grading scheme in their page). Stvbastian (talk) 14:40, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
 * Understood, thanks for clarifying! Timothytyy (talk) 22:55, 20 June 2023 (UTC)

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Archive Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 12:59, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Eve in a Summer Dress
Hello,

What is the source on Eve in a Summer Dress that you think is unreliable? Best - MY, OH MY! (mushy yank)  00:44, 7 July 2023 (UTC)


 * 2 refs are considered as potentially unreliable according to WP:RSP and I don't see any reputation for fact-checking of the websites upon inspection. The external link is user-published. But anyways if you disagree with me you can remove the tag. Timothytyy (talk) 06:32, 7 July 2023 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of 2023 Rafael Nadal tennis season


The article 2023 Rafael Nadal tennis season has been proposed for deletion&#32;because of the following concern: "Does not qualify for a yearly article per Tennis Guidelines as he didn't come close to 20 official matches and he withdrew all tournaments until the end of the season."

While all constructive contributions to Wikipedia are appreciated, pages may be deleted for any of several reasons.

You may prevent the proposed deletion by removing the notice, but please explain why in your edit summary or on the article's talk page.

Please consider improving the page to address the issues raised. Removing will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. In particular, the speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. IndexAccount (talk) 06:12, 9 July 2023 (UTC)


 * @IndexAccount Can you tell me which specific guideline you are referring to? It passes GNG, so it shouldn't be deleted. Unless you provide a better reason, I will object the PROD in 2 days, and at that time you can nom it for AfD if you want. Timothytyy (talk) 06:32, 9 July 2023 (UTC)

Akane Yamaguchi
Hello. Help improvements. Thanks you. 2402:800:6305:1035:E9CA:3119:3C88:9387 (talk) 06:12, 16 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Can you explain how would you like me to improve the article? Thanks. Timothytyy (talk) 06:14, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Copy edit for section 2022, add ref and delete template. Thanks you very much. 2402:800:6305:1035:E9CA:3119:3C88:9387 (talk) 06:15, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Sorry, there seems to be a sockpuppet investigation, so I can't edit it for now. Timothytyy (talk) 06:19, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
 * I remember seeing an edit like this one before. See here: Sockpuppet investigations/Haiyenslna Kaseng55 (talk) 06:19, 16 July 2023 (UTC)