User talk:Tim~enwiki/email substitute

To: Conrad Dunkerson Brion Viber and by wikipedia email: Tim Starling Ligulem

Hi!

I managed to clear this up, so it's no longer hot, but you all might want to find out what was really happening.

The following diff, of an inactive user, is showing up with a user page including the several Interwikitmp-grp pages. I confirmed there is no mention of such a link on his user page, as this long span diff shows. He went inactive, a good month or two before I ever originated the original files. There is another page that indicates he's linked, but is not showing, which when checking links is how I twigged to this situation.

This page is also indicated as linked: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_limits, which is CBD's / Ligulem's rationale for their 'doc page pattern' ==(transcluded ) below. It too is showing these section headings.

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User%3AMrendo&diff=20091471&oldid=18375435

Swipes from his page in HTML:

This Interwikitmp-grp (family of) templates documentation is transcluded from Template:Interwikitmp-grp/doc [edit].

This template documentation is transcluded from Template:Interwikitmp-grps see also [edit].

Template:Interwikitmp-grp edit group (List of links)

← Template:Interwikitmp-grp edit group

The following pages link to Template:Interwikitmp-grp edit group

View (previous 50) (next 50) (20 | 50 | 100 | 250 | 500). User:Mrendo User:Mrendo/Protected Area Table IUCN Title Template:X0 Wikipedia:Template limits ... and other normal and expected pages. Here's the full list... I've a suspicion I'll share in a moment, I've done some commenting out and page wipes to see if the list changes when I refresh: User:Mrendo User:Mrendo/Protected Area Table IUCN Title Template:X0 Wikipedia:Template limits Template:Interwikitmp-grp Template:Tt0 Template:Interwikitmp-grps see also Template:Interwikitmp-grp usage Template talk:Interwikitmp-grp Template talk:Tt Template:Interwikitmp-grp2 Template:Interwikitmp-grp/doc Template:Interwikitmp-grp1 Template:Interwikitmp-grp6 Template:Interwikitmp-grpNN usage Template:Interwikitmp-grp0 Template:Interwikitmp-grpD Template talk:Interwikitmp-grp1

Yep -- New list in it's entirety: Template:Interwikitmp-grp Template:Interwikitmp-grp usage Template:Interwikitmp-grp0

05:41, 26 January 2007 (hist) (diff) Template:Interwikitmp-grps see also (Comment out Interwikitmp-grp edit group) (top) 05:37, 26 January 2007 (hist) (diff) Template talk:Tt (comment out line getting expanded by Tt) (top) 05:33, 26 January 2007 (hist) (diff) m Template:X0 (restore to previous --) (top) 05:29, 26 January 2007 (hist) (diff) Template:Tt0 (Wiped file... was that mess causing a database corruption?) (top) 05:01, 26 January 2007 (hist) (diff) m Template:Interwikitmp-grp edit group (--) (top) 04:39, 26 January 2007 (hist) (diff) Template:Interwikitmp-grp (Attemped merge from commons and bottom here) (top)

Status: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Template_limits is again normal.

So the top four edits hold the mystery... But notice the notation on Tt0 and Tt (talk). Tt was expanding Template:Interwikitmp-grps see also in that talk page, at ''see also's" bottom, when the below process failed (see 1-2 para's down) in a reasonable amount of time, I had placed just a plain link to Template:Interwikitmp-grp edit group which is the page that was blowing up when expanded. I'm suspecting that was somehow over running and causing problems via my /doc page, which included 'see also'.

Yesterday, it happens I tried to clean that (edit group) page up, and subst part of the page. That took place in XO, and the subst'd code looked fine, and the links were okay as well. When that 'half page' of links was put back into 'edit group', the subst'd code turned into screwed up mush--that was put into Tt0 for you to look over. I'd started drafting you an email on that yesterday, but decided it could wait.

In sum, there is a mechanism here where that blow up stuff was carrying over somehow into those other two pages. Could just be an accidental formation of a template call to tt. But it's talk page was where the test code involving 'edit group' had a tt call expanding 'see also'... which seems to have sucked in 'edit group', though the debug links didn't show up on pages where it was used.

At the least, something in software is not healty and robust.

You guys have fun with it! Ah... XO's history gets wiped I think, so I'll retrieve those contents 'in case' and place them in Template:Tt1.

Tried with XO, the expansion is gone already. But XO in the edit above had InterwikitmpD, not the expanded code tonight. That you can replicate if need be. The expanded mess, after cutting the subst'd code back into 'edit group' will be in the history of 'Tt0'.

Best regards,

Frank Bartus Fabartus --at-- comcast dot net