User talk:Tintin1107/Archive13

History of Indian cricket
Hello Tintin. It would appear that we have the same paragraph on pg61 which addresses #1 and #3
 * ''Grant Govan and Anthony de Mello, who had become the first President and Secretary of the Board, had journeyed to and from England to India in the summer of 1928 and produced a plan for a tour by South Africa to India in 1929 and India to England in 1931. Lord Harris, it would appear, had blessed these tours. But when they returned they found that the Board was still far from ready to be launched. By the time India was admitted to the Imperial Cricket Conference in 1929, the impetus had gone;

The second point in the appendix, still says that Vizzy was born in Vizianagar, not gram. Do they mean the same thing. The book writes:Sehwag, V.C; Virender Sehwag; and does not specify what the C is. For the other players, they expand on the initials, but here they do not. We also have the reverse where SIDHU, N.S; expands to Navjot Singh Bhagwantsingh Sidhu, and TAP Sekhar in expanded form without the P. Another thing I noted is that I picked up a copy of Steve Waugh's World Cup Diary (1996) for 0.15 USD and saw that it is the only book where Anil Kumble is listed as AR Kumble. What's going on?

Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 08:07, 5 October 2006 (UTC) Regards, Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 08:07, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Hi Tintin. Unfortunately  we only have 5 books by this fellow; about Bodyline and Bradman - you can see if anything else in the library interests you.  - Also found a source finally that Yuvraj Singh is a Sikh. In which case it is somewhat strange that Harbhajan got in trouble for doing an alcohol ad with hair showing whilst Yuvraj does not when he shows it everyday and fully shaves....something for the Yuvraj article perhaps, unless it contravenes POV. In any case, strange that celebrities endorse alcohol. In Australia there are never any alcohol endorsements, although I am sure the level of consumption and drunkenness amongst the public and the sports stars are much higher. Do the players get criticised for endorsing alcohol and/or tobacoo? Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 03:50, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

FA nomination of Thiruvananthapuram
You could have pitched in early.. during the peer reviews. Anyways, Thanks a lot for pointing out the missmatches in the article. I will try to fix it asap. --- Rajith Mohan (Talk to me...) :-) 22:53, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

list of people from Kerala
Hello friend, I have classified the abovesaid article in a new way. I think it is better to search N find out informations. What's ur opinion? In that article sports category is weak.please supply ur informations. I'm admitting my ignorance in sports field. Nileena joseph 04:23, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Raja Yoga controversy
Dear Hinduism Project editors,

There is a controversy on the Hinduism regarding Raja Yoga. Please read the debate on the Hinduism discussion page. Your comments are requested on the Hinduism discussion page to help resolve the controversy. Thank you. HeBhagawan 14:52, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

India in ICC
Problem statement : When did India join the ICC ? 1926 or 1929 ?

Some references : Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Cricket/archive19

I'm afraid that I can't shed any further light on the subject of when India formally joined the ICC.. I based what I put in the Lord Harris article on. I've had a look in Barxlay's World of Cricket, an encyclopaedia published in 1980. All I could find was: "...India had to form a central organizing body before she could be afforded Test status and the Board of Control for Cricket in India came into being in 1928..." I can't find any mention of when India formally was admitted to the ICC.

It's possible that the "Notes by the Editor" in editions of Wisden around that time might throw some light, and those are available on Cricinfo. JH 17:26, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

In 1909, the Imperial Cricket Conference adopted some slightly contradictory policies. Under "Rules for Test Matches", it said: "Test Matches are those played between Representative Elevens of England and of Australia and of South Africa, also between Elevens of Australia and South Africa." Under "Qualification for Representation" it said: "The governing bodies of cricket in countries within the Empire to which cricket teams are sent or which send teams to England are entitled to send two representatives of such governing bodies to the Imperial Cricket Conference." Under "Definition of Test Matches" it then said: "Test matches are matches played between sides duly selected by recognised governing bodies of cricket representing countries within the Empire."

On 20 May 1930, there was a meeting at Lord's of the Imperial Cricket Conference. This suggested new rules, of which the relevant one is: "Test matches are matches played between sides duly selected by governing bodies of Cricket recognised by the Imperial Conference as representing countries within the Empire." The new rules were "unanimously recommended" but then submitted to the various countries' boards for approval, and not to come into effect until that was done. At the end of the notes, it says: "Formal approval was given to the West Indies Tour in Australia during 1930-1931."

These new rules were formally adopted at a further ICC meeting at The Oval on 29 July 1931, to come into effect on 1 September 1931. Presumably the various boards of control had approved them in the intervening year.

I can't find any reference to when the various boards of control (which are presumably the "governing bodies of Cricket recognised by the Imperial Conference as representing countries within the Empire") were formed, except that the Indian board (Board of Control for Cricket in India) was formed in 1928, according to a report by Ron Roberts and Dicky Rutnagur in The Barclays World of Cricket book (which isn't always entirely accurate!)

Nor can I find any reference to when the matches played prior to 1 September 1931 were retrospectively granted Test status, though the fact that the West Indies tour to Australia in 1930-31 is singled out as "approved" suggests that a fairly relaxed view was being taken.

From 1931 to 1937, the ICC was notionally charged with approving all Test match players as being eligible; the 1937 ICC meeting decided to amend that particular rule so that governing bodies needed to submit for ICC approval only the names of players where there was the potential for dispute about eligibility.

All of the above comes from rather tucked-away reports in various Wisdens from 1930 to 1938, except for the bit from the Barclays book. Somewhere in the back of my brain I know there's a book that spells all of this out, but I can't remember what it is, or even whether I have a copy. Johnlp 20:32, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Here's something that might help this and your other discussion below. Second section. Johnlp 20:36, 2 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the link. The ICC's page too mentions this date but it contradicts the condition that there should be a governing body. There is no certainity about anything in early Indian cricket. BCCI was supposedly formed in Dec 1928 but no one knows the date *sigh*

India was represented at both ICC meetings in 1926, but the other "newcomers" (West Indies and New Zealand) both came up with proposals for Tests and tours, which suggests India wasn't in a position to do likewise. Presumably because no governing body had yet been formed? MCC were meant to visit India in 1930-31, and that is first mentioned in about 1929, again presumabl;y because a board had been formed. I'll try to look more at the weekend, but am badly busy during the week this week (and possibly over the weekend too). Johnlp 22:49, 4 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you. That is the best circumstantial evidence that we have yet supporting 1929. Tintin (talk) 06:18, 5 October 2006 (UTC)

Some more references :

N. S. Ramaswami, "Indian Cricket : A complete history", p.12 : Strangely enough, India were admitted to the Imperial CCin 1926, though there was no official organisation at home yet. Two representatives of the Calcutta CC, both Britons, attended the conference's meetings in London that year.

Saradindu Sanyal : "40 years of Test cricket", p.7 : They attended the ICC in London in 1925 (sic) and succeeded in presuading the MCC to send a team to India. MCC also agreed to recognise India as soon as a cricket control board was formed .... (In Gilligan's 1926-7 tour) No Test match was played because India had yet to be admitted to the ICC.

Daily Telegraph Chronicle of Cricket, Guinness Publishing, 1994, ed. Norman Barrett. For the main events in each year, it includes extracts from the newspaper. The minor events are consolidated in a box. An entry in 1926 in this section reads "June 28 : India, New Zealand and West Indies admitted to the ICC"

Mihir Bose, "A Maidan view", the second edition came out just the other day : (p.40) (Harris) invited Robertson and Currie to attend the ICC meetings where they were described as India's representatives. There was no Indian cricket board and ofcourse, neither Robertson or Currie considered themselves Indians. (p.42) De Mello wrote, "We felt if a man so cricket-wise as Gilligan considered Indian cricket had reached a state in its development where it could challenge the world, then we had certainly acheived something. Gilligan promised to state out case when he returned to Lord's". Gilligan kept his word. Two years later, India gained admittance as a full member of the ICC and in another three had made its Test debut at Lord's. Tintin (talk) 14:57, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

Raju Narayanaswamy
Dear Tintin, Please clear the article of Raju Narayana swamy. I think You know about him more than me. I just put the details from some website. You can clear that. I know It is not a good std that to put His marks firt and his problems etc. Please do jyothish 15:33, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Some Small Things
Hi Tintin, I'm not to argue with u. We, journalists are very familiar with all magazines in Kerala.Sometimes that may be the reason in which I'm very familiar with chiricheppu. My personal opinion is that it is the best Political Cartoon Monthly currently available in Malayalam.Appreciation of art is a subjective thinking. I dont know whether its available in Railway Station or not. In our Press club its available.( Please dont consider me as a biz-rep of chiricheppu).As a reader I'm familiar with all writers in Malayalam. Sithara, K.R.Meera,Santhosh Echikkanam,B.Murali,Subhash Chandran ....are my favourite writers (fiction) in Malayalam. I would like to start pages for them. But I fear that u people will say they are non notable.I used to read almost all Onappathippu. Very Recently I have read a poem of S. jithesh in Veekshanam Onappathippu 2006.I dont know whether he is notable or not as per ur yardstick. I got a link from google:please check. At that time I thought about u and the Afd discussion. U may be noted that Onappathippu of Malayalam Dailies are reserved for Noted Persons in their respective field. I'm not an expert in sports. So I cannot argue with u in that subject. That reveals my ignorance. Manorama's sports writer Sanal P thomas may be a good Person to argue with u.I have read ur comment in AfD page of Puthukkody Kottuthody Sankaran Kutty. It is the right thing. I had committed a mistake in that discussion.I thought that this discussion was on Artist Sankarankutty. There are three noted Kutties in the field of Cartoons.One was SankaranKutty-An artist in Manorama. His Book covers were superb. When he died all English news papers wrote articles on Cartoonist Kutty (Culcutta).Now he is in America.Nileena joseph 15:35, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

Re:Raman Raghav
No I'm not sure - strangely enough I couldn't find a note about his death at all, except that he succumbed to his illness at the Thane asylum. Rama's arrow 06:09, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

Raju Narayana Swamy
I think he was 4th in the IIT entrance. Anyway he was not first. U r correct.Ur observation and research is really appreciable.His father Iyyer sir commented as u mentioned in the talk page. A competition success Review with his front cover photo is with me. He is really a nice fellow. Nileena joseph 04:44, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

de:Kerala
Hello Tintin1107,

Thanks for your improvements in the German-language Kerala article. Koraga is no mistake however, it's a small Dravidian tribal language in the districts of Kasaragod and Kannur. Regards--Young Pioneer 12:24, 13 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Hi again! Nyet, I don't mean Kodava either, it's really Koraga - see here :-)--Young Pioneer 09:30, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

Madhyamavicharam and Topgear
Okay Tintin. Thanks for ur response. Still u r sticking on ur on arguements. So cute. I think Dr. Sebastian Paul is a good media critic. I used to watch Madhyamavicharam on Kairali T.V. Recently he commented on Chiricheppu and its contributions in the field of cartooning in Madhyamavicharam. He shared his knowledge on the origin of pocket cartoons. Malayali cartoonist Samuel is the creator of Pocket cartoons in India. He says. Actually,it was a novel thing to me! How many of us know Samuel? I haven't heard about him?

I have created a stub on Topgear. It is the best automobile magazine in Malayalam. Have a look. Most of the car magazines are in English language. If u dont mind buy a copy of Topgear. The mag is very attractive.But I dont know whether it is notable or not? Nileena joseph 04:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Kochi for TFA
How about nominating the Kochi article for WP:TFA on Nov 1st (Kerala piravi as well as Kochi piravi day)? It is a working day, though....--thunderboltz(Deepu) 14:45, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

Kosham
I didn't mean that Kosham. Vishwa Vinjana Kosham was an ambitious venture by Sahitya Pravarthaka Sahakarana Sangham before it was undermined. First volume came out in 1970 and continued upto six (തീ/thee) which came next year. Then there was a break of many years. All the ten volumes came out but the last four were not as good. And here's a joke for you. I almost convinced some administrators and won them over to my side. Then some stupid fellow googled kuntan and found out that it meant a very loose cunt in some Icelandic language. You can't fail to get my point.Kundan After Sundown 10:24, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

WP:CRIQ
Please, please, please could you keep things moving. --Dweller 12:09, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

P. K. Manthri
As per ur suggestion I have created a stub on P. K. Manthri. We dont have any doubt on his notability. Unfortunately no external links are currently available. Google contains nothing about him. Nileena joseph 04:35, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

History of TN and Vellore mutiny
Hi

The reference I have (which I omitted using as the citation) is ''Read, Anthony (1997). The Proudest Day - India's Long Ride to Independence. London: Jonathan Cape''. According to this (pp34 - 37) the number of mutineers killed was 19. Vellore Mutiny quotes the number 350 from the Hindu article, while this quotes 100. I have changed the article to say that Bentinck was recalled in disgrace and that 'several hundred' mutineers were killed.

The citation for the first elections is from the TN gov website. I don't know where the Madras Presidency article got the date from. - Parthi talk/contribs 22:27, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

Bottom of table
Hi Tintin. Must admit I don't know. I didn't write that bit but I've just had a quick look at CricInfo where I remembered a wooden spoon section and it says:

''Since the major expansion of the Championship from nine teams to 14 in 1895, the counties have finished outright bottom as follows: Derbyshire 14; Northamptonshire and Somerset 11; Glamorgan 9; Nottinghamshire and Sussex 8; Gloucestershire and Leicestershire 7; Worcestershire 6; Durham and Hampshire 5; Warwickshire 3; Essex and Kent 2; Yorkshire 1. Lancashire, Middlesex and Surrey have never finished bottom. Leicestershire have also shared bottom place twice, once with Hampshire and once with Somerset.''

So the info under Somerset CCC is wrong. I'll make a change.

See :

All the best. --BlackJack | talk page 06:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Happy Deepawali
Image:DiwaliSwastika.jpg Wish You a Happy and Prosperous Deepawali (IndianCow)
 * Fair use image removed by User:Sir Nicholas de Mimsy-Porpington.

List of famous Nairs
Yeah, I know that the article has survived two AFDs. But, have a look at the very recent precednets: Articles for deletion/Famous Telugu Brahmins and Articles for deletion/List of Famous Reddys. utcursch | talk 10:31, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't mind anybody removing the PROD. The article is a unverifiable list that serves no encyclopedic purpose. utcursch | talk 11:04, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

Re: IRC
damn dude, calm down! you were banned because the channel had gnaa attacks going on so a trigger I have is to ban people that show up in certain dnsbl's as open proxies. I only ever activate that trigger when the channel is undergoing a bot attack. It was nothing personal at all.

On the other hand, the fact that the way worded your response on my talk page in a way equivalent to that of an elitest prick is rather sad. Why didn't you just talk to me or ask "wtf?" or something else? You may have more experience on wikipedia and knowledge of how to write an article, but what does that have to do with irc? if you still have issues, feel free to bring it up with me on my talk page or on irc --Appleboy Talk 04:44, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Happy Diwali

 * And from me too. Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 05:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Mark Waugh
I know that he's my favourite player from when I first became interested.....but I do know that making random stuff out of my head is dangerous.... Thanks again Blnguyen | BLabberiNg 05:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Chicken's road
Hi,

Thanks for the update. I have followed up the discussion on the article's talk page. There looks like legitimate concerns over the said origin as even earlier reports of the quote exist. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 10:09, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Essex CCC
;-) Well spotted.

You're quite right that it shouldn't be there. I did it to wind up whoever wrote the bit about Botham that was there formerly. I've removed it now and made it about Bailey only, as it should be. Hope you enjoyed the Diwali festival or were you too busy watching England get trounced? --BlackJack | talk page 14:32, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Thakkali et al.
In my opinion, redirects from Malayalam words to their English counterparts are not necessary unless the Malayalam word is widely used by English-speakers and academicians or when something is endemic to Malayalam. We can gently convey this to Rajesh. Such words definitely have a place in English Wiktionary, and Malayalam Wiktionary. -- Sundar \talk \contribs 08:38, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Articles for deletion/99.94
Please see (and add to!) the 99.94 article, which I've substantially expanded and then chime in at the Afd. --Dweller 18:42, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

Image Use
Hey Tintin, hope you are doing well. I have found this website The Hindu Images. It contains the old photographs related to Indian Independence movement.

Since these were all published before 1940s and considering that they the 60 year copyright has expired, can we use these photographs on Wikipedia?
 * and again I am still not sure as to how can they claim copyright for the photos that were published before 1946.   IndianCow       Talk  08:12, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your quick response..--  IndianCow       Talk  08:32, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Rod Marsh
You're absolutely right. Marsh07 12:19, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

Proposing a change at WikiProject India
Hi,

I'm proposing a major change related to WikiProject India. I'm trying to build a consensus. Your suggestions/views/ideas are very much valued. Please talk about it here. Cheers. -- Ch e  z  ( Discuss  /  Email  ) &bull; 06:05, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

"The human catapult"
Thanks, Tintin. Neither of my sources gave the name of the poet. One of them did suggest that it was only an extract from a longer work, in line with your informtion. It might be worth adding the lines to the Jessop article as well (assuming that they aren't already there - I haven't checked). It's possibly a little unkind of Brodribb to compare Paine with Craig. Judging by this piece of verse, Paine is immeasurably superior. JH 15:33, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

"And said : 'In a helmet I'll dress up'"
 * That's remarkably prescient. :) JH 17:19, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

Sockpuppets
Thanks for informing me about that. But I am having some doubts about it. For eg. Nileena Joseph has created some useful articles and she doesn't seem to be resurrecting articles for s jithesh or chiricheppu. Also, each one's user page was quite different and had diiferent messages. Also devapriya seems to be a sockpuppet.Thanks -- Ageo020 ( Talk  •  Contribs ) 02:11, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Well, your logic on a sock puppet seems to be good. I just remembered from Chiricheppu's article(which was deleted) that P R Bijuchandran, P C Sanal Kumar, and Nooranadu Mohan all contributed to the magazine. My theory is that all these accounts are from different people, but they all work at Chiricheppu. Remember even Nileena is a journalist. I find that Devapriya's user page is erratically similar to Nileena's. Who knows they may be socks as well. I need your opinion on these PR Biju's contribs. I may AFD them if I can't find any sources. 1.Madhu Omalloor 2.Prakash Shetty 3.Gireesh Puthenchery 4.Yesudasan -- Ageo020 ( Talk  •  Contribs ) 00:24, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject_Hinduism/Shri for WP:HINDU users
I nominated a few users who I feel are deserving of the award.Bakaman Bakatalk 00:18, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Foot


They were at the foot after regularly getting floored. --BlackJack | talk page 07:34, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Kollam
Nokkette.

hehe :) Jisha C J 14:04, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


 * According to the encarta its 1292, but according to the District website it is 1275 . Which one to go by??

Jisha C J 14:25, 31 October 2006 (UTC)


 * According to the encarta the khan permitted Polos to to return(to europe) if they would serve as escorts for a Mongol princess, and that the party departed from Quanzhou in china and sailed to Sumatra, Ceylon (now Sri Lanka), southern India, and the Persian Gulf. So it does not clearly mention that he visited Kollam. Only a mention that he traveled through south India. Jisha C J 15:38, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * This one??
 * So can the year be changed?? Thanks a lot for the help. And the cross check swabhavam :) Jisha C J 18:25, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * That seems fine. BTW Kerala piravi ashamsakal. Jisha C J 03:39, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
 * From the Kannur page --Kannur was the capital of the Kolattiri Rajas, whose kingdom had trading relations with Arabia and Persia during 12th century and 13th century. In his book of travels Marco Polo recounts his visit to the area circa 1250. Should the year be changed on the Kannur page as well by keeping in view the earlier discussions? --Jisha C J 18:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Changed the year on the Kannur page. BTW I can't access the Gutenberg site.--Jisha C J 03:53, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Kitti. Thank you. --Jisha C J 06:46, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Hi
Tintin, with reference to this, yours truly is still waiting for an e-mail. I return to WP after a long time, and it is profoundly irritating to find that you are still not an admin. You would do well to do some explaining on that point also in the e-mail. Regards, ImpuMozhi 01:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Wisden registration
Hi Tintin,

It definitely asked me for my password today. Maybe you just have a cookie from them? Try clearing out your cookies and seeing if you need to log in again.

Stephen Turner (Talk) 11:56, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Just outta interest...why are u so interested in what a trivandrum international school student says about the school when he is writing things which dont offend anyone or break any rules? perhaps someone would do well to keep their nose out of things that dont concern them.....

Re: Origins of the name 'Madras'
Hi, I couldn't find any ref to back up the claim that the name Madras was derived from Portugese. I found a couple of interesting links though:
 * Hobson-Jobson dictionary, which lays oout a number of claims including that the name derived from the persian madrasssa for the concentration of muslim seminaries in the region
 * Madras corporation website discounts that claim as 'fanciful' and lists a number of possibilities such as from the name of a local chieftain 'Maddaraju'.

Anyone's guess I suppose! - Parthi talk/contribs 19:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

West Indies coach for 2003 cricket world cup
well the title does summarize it. Do you know who it is. if so, could you just add his name to this template. Right now it is X X. Template:West Indies Squad 2003 Cricket World Cup

S. Jithesh - Do not Delete

 * Do not delete the article S. Jithesh - He is a noted cartoonist in Malayalam cartoon field. No google hits does'nt imply that he is not notable or famous. That is what we Wikipedians are for:)!!

Regards

Kjrajesh

Images
Hello Titin,

Actually the picture is not mine, its taken by Shijaz, I just editd taht and reloaded.

Regards

Kjrajesh


 * Sorry and OK

--Rajesh Kakkanatt 12:02, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Wisden books
Seems to have been renamed for a second edition in 1988. There is a reference here. I don't have either, or at least I don't think I have, but my cricket books are in something of a muddle at present (in looking, though, I found a book by Alan Gibson that I didn't know I had, which is a bonus: JHall is also a Gibson fan, it turns out). Johnlp 21:36, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

Re Sandham's Test: was there something in the test match rules then about games being played to a finish when they were the deciding matches of a series? There's something in the back of my brain that says this, but maybe I'm fantasising. I'm not really back yet: 16-hour working days in real life don't leave much time for fun things at present. Johnlp 08:29, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

RfA thanks
Hi Tintin, I am very thankful to you for supporting and comments on my succesful RfA. Thanks for vandalising my user page as well :D Shyam  ( T / C ) 06:53, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Brooke Book
I'm afraid that I can't help with the book in question, though I read a few of his columns when they first appeared in The Cricketer. I imagine that a search on "Robert Brooke" on Amazon or Abebooks would turn it up. JH 18:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Re another book
Hi. I don't have the Robert Brooke book, I'm afraid. I have piles of unsorted magazines going back a decade or three, but it'd take me a while to find anything in them (and I haven't assiduously kept every issue, so there are big gaps). Was it a specific question you had in mind (assuming that the Brooke column was in the nature of "Milestones" or some such)? Johnlp 18:12, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Checkuser
Tintin, You should check this. -- Ganeshk  ( talk ) 05:50, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

WP:PKL
What do you think of the new boxes on Portal:Kerala? Courtesy, Italino wikipedia, btw. The boxes at the bottom still use the old style. ''Etha nallathu? Oru colour scheme suggest cheyyamo?''--thunderboltz(Deepu) 09:33, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * By the way, I changed the method of rotating the selected article. Each day's selected article is now selected using the formula:
 * (which gives  for today, thus selecting Portal:Kerala/Selected articles/Selected article ), where X is the no. of selected articles available. This should be a more stabilised system, as the selected article will remain the same for a day or two before rotating. Also, it is possible to know which article will be featured at any given day, unlike the other, which was totally random (the earlier formula being ). I know that this will have its share of drawbacks and controversies too. But, I don't think anybody will be willing to rotate the content on the portal manually. So such a system is the only alternative. I'd like your comments on this before I push it to India PR.--thunderboltz(Deepu)  09:43, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, right now we have to update the news and DYK manually. If someone could run a bot, then we could source the articles from Wikinews. But Kerala related matter comes very rarely there.
 * We'll ask for a better colour scheme during India PR. Right now, our focus should be to populate it with some more content. Be on the look out for good Kerala-related articles and pics.--thunderboltz(Deepu) 08:42, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's in India PR now.--thunderboltz(Deepu) 13:22, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Kollam
Thank you I hadn't noticed it. FA sure someday...But a lot of work needs to be done :(

Jisha C J 16:10, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * BTW They have been fixed.
 * According to this and this  there is another Kollam in Kozhikode district. Have you heard about it? Jisha C J 11:51, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Same as I thought it was. Thank you for the clarification and speedy reply. That was real fast. :)Jisha C J
 * Now that is news to me. Kollam in Kollam district has pincodes starting 691xxx Jisha C J

re Vinod Valloppillil
Urk, my bad. Too quick on the trigger, there, and thank you for catching that. I've restored it. The first and last paragraphs and the first sentence of the middle paragraph do make him look, at first glance, as just another guy - and of course we get plenty of those. What I'd suggest to keep this from happening again is to append the last sentence of the second paragraph with "...known as the Halloween Documents, which _____________." with the final clause pointing out their notability in some way. Herostratus 18:49, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Underarm
Sounds good, Tintin. I'd never even heard of Trevor Moloney so I've learned something there. Certainly GS-H seems to have been the last underarmer of real note. There were quite a few in the 19th century like Grundy and Southerton who were still around when overarm started. --BlackJack | talk page 19:36, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Lord Harris
In answer to the question you posed, I would say his importance is "Top", on the grounds that he is generally recognised as the most powerful administrator that cricket has ever had. JH 10:07, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Michelle Ford
Yeah, the book I used was wrong. After it was posted, I got an email from a certain Mr Wallechinsky. Blnguyen (bananabucket) 05:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Best
All the Best for your real life matters. --Bhadani 09:31, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Thank you, Bhadaniji. Hope you are fine. It is a long time since we talked. I was actually busy in real life for a few months because of family matters, but it is slightly better now. Makes me wonder how you find so much time for Wikipedia ! Tintin (talk) 09:38, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Of late, for real life work commitments I too find little time for wikipedia, and sometimes wastage of time in useless issues and discussion has made me reduce my presence here as I do not want to waste my time with the those who edit here with an agenda. Ultimately, the wiki-community shall take care of them and they shall be exposed and continue to get exposed. Having said this, I may add that I shall continue here on a long term basis as I know ultimately all will understand the futility of wasting time in useless issues and discussion. Moreover, adding to the sum total of human knowledge is an interesting pastime. I manage to do little edits somehow despite other commitments. Please remain in touch. Thanks. --Bhadani 09:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

ithonnu nokkikke dinesha http://www.hinduonnet.com/thehindu/fr/2002/11/08/stories/2002110800920100.htm

yeda payyane nee alu kollao? nee evidathu karana kirukkan cherukka?

Great Blue Heron photo
You asked about my Great Blue Heron photo. It's not much use unless it fills the page, because it is so dark that it just looks black if it's surrounded by a lot of white space. -- Mwanner | Talk 13:56, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

Joginder Rao
Yes, removing the "paraplegic" remark sounds like a good idea to me, especially since you have another solid source. As I noted briefly on the article's Talk page, it did seem odd to me, but Cricinfo wasn't contradicted by any other source I had. Indian Cricket seems more than good enough, so by all means go ahead and make the change. Loganberry (Talk) 12:34, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Tom Richardson
Ralph Barker covers Richardson's death on pp124-126 of Ten Great Bowlers (1967). He says: "The suicide story seems to have arisen largely through an ambiguous obituary notice in Wisden for 1915, which spoke of Richardson's 'tragic end, causing such a painful shock to his friends', coupled with the fact that... no authentic details were readily available." And: "Recent research, however, proves beyond all reasonable doubt that he died a natural death." "...the Procureur-général of Chambery... recently produced a copy of a death certificate which said that Richardson, a tourist passing through the town (St Jean d'Arvey), died in an open field at three o'clock in the afternoon of 2nd July 1912. No cause of death was given, but an accompanying letter said that 'the fact that this certificate was drawn up on the day following the death seems to show that there was neither a police inquest nor a post-mortem, the death being considered a natural one'... It seems likely that in the course of one of his walks... he had a brain haemorrhage, or stumbled and fell, or both. That heart abnormality, which he had successfully defied throughout his cricket career, had perhaps caught up with him at last... A letter from the Mayor of St Jean d'Arvey dated 10th March 1966...seemed finally to resolve all doubts: 'From the information that I have been able to gather together from a number of different people... who remember the incident... it appears that Mr Richardson died while climbing a rocky hill path in the open country... Unhappily, we have no report or medical certificate in our archives. But it does appear from every point of view extremely likely that the causes of the death were natural ones.'... Had there been any hint or gossip of suicide, that would surely have been well remembered too."

Every more recent book that mentions Richardson's death that I have read seems to accept that Barker's research disproved the suicide story. What the Wiki article on him says, that he died of a heart attack. seems to accrod with what Barker wrote. JH 19:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Indian cricket team
Hi Tintin. In the squad list I added the contract divisions for each of the players. HAve I done them correctly? Blnguyen (bananabucket) 01:23, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Bradman/Hussey
Yes. Let's hope England get Hussey out cheaply a few times (only in the interests of us beleaguered Wikipedians, of course)! --RobertG &#9836; talk 12:11, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

Mahabali
Tintin, can you pls check the edits by an IP (24.6.238.132) on the Mahabali page? The Prester John theory was added by the same user. I was very naive to have accepted it so easily. The connection seems to have been OR, as I fear his other edits might be too. (see M M Ninan). Can you please verify?--thunderboltz(Deepu) 14:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Harry Walker
Hello again, Tintin.

The earliest mention I've seen of the cut is in relation to Tom Taylor of Hambledon who started playing a decade or more before the Walker brothers. In his book, Nyren says of Taylor that he was a great hitter but didn’t guard his wicket well enough and had a tendency to cut at straight balls like Beauclerk later. Beauclerk started a few years after the Walkers.

However, Nyren goes on to say that Harry Walker was the first to master the cut shot.

The Walkers famously used to practice in a barn all winter. Harry was certainly a more adventurous player than Tom, who would surely have regarded the cut as too risky. Tom was the original Boycott, famed for his dogged determination and known as "Old Everlasting". --BlackJack | talk page 09:22, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

rec.sport.cricket caucus
Hey hey! Reckon we need an article for rec.sport.cricket? Darcyj 11:23, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

Mana
Sure! - Aksi_great (talk) 11:56, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

Pallipuram
Could you please look into this and do something with the recent history subheading. Jisha (Talk)  15:47, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Both :) Jisha  (Talk)  04:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

Aniljay, I hope there are no copyright issues. Did Njaralathu Rama Poduval play chenda too ? I thought he did only edakka. Can you try to change the tone of the article a little more encyclopaediac (ie, a little more serious and less informal).

Thanks for the post. To the extent that I know, there are no copyright issues, since I wrote the article myself, salvaging some info from the gramapanchayat office. I know Rama Poduval as an edakka vitrouso, and it is well possible that during the early years of his learning, he might have learned chenda as well. Remember, the Poduval cast is traditionally engaed in cheda. He stayed in Pallipuram in his early days, in Kodikkunnu. I will, earnestly, try to change the tone of the article, within my limited knowledge and resources. Thanks.

Also, in common parlance, the Raj simply referrs to the British Raj.


 * I was busy too. Now that User:Aniljay is working on the article, the cleanup and wikification would be easy. Jisha  (Talk)  14:22, 11 December 2006 (UTC)