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The Bugle: Issue C, July 2014
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The Bugle: Issue CI, August 2014
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The Bugle: Issue CII, September 2014
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Welcome back
I glad to see you are out and about. -- PBS (talk) 17:42, 1 October 2014 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CIII, October 2014
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The Bugle: Issue CIII, October 2014, Redux
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The Bugle: Issue CIV, November 2014
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The Bugle: Issue CV, December 2014
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Borodino
Why don't you check what the sources say, instead of mindlessly repeating your own personal opinion? ZinedineZidane98 (talk) 07:02, 17 January 2015 (UTC)

Battle of Borodino edit
I have changed that sentence, per your suggestion. Take a look and see what you think. I meant to convey the same message that you wrote in my talk page, but it came off awkwardly in the actual article. UBER ( talk ) 12:33, 20 January 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CVI, January 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CVII, February 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CVIII, March 2015
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Capture of USS Chesapeake
No problem. They were useful additions, thanks. Urselius (talk) 07:15, 1 April 2015 (UTC)

United States and Macedonian
Hi, I'm not sure what sources I have on this engagement, I'll have to have a look. One interesting point is that the Macedonian was the only British frigate captured and taken into port, the others were too battered and were burnt. The Macedonian was British-built whereas the Java and Guerriere were both French-built, French shipbuilding practises were less robust than either British or American. Urselius (talk) 16:54, 3 April 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CIX, April 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CX, May 2015
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Citation in French invasion of Russia
The long and short citations in French invasion of Russia article are a mess and have been since at least this edit in January 2008 when three short citations were added without the long citation to go with it. As you made this please could you tell me which book you were using, as there are at least two to choose from in the current list of books. Also you added another citation to "Riehn, p.50" at a much later date. I assume it is to the same book if not please let me know as I would like to tidy up the citations in the article. -- PBS (talk) 19:42, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for the speedy response and the information, I'll include it shortly. However I need to trouble you further. With this edit you added a very appropriate quote citing "Hourtoulle p.119" can you remember the book from which it came? -- PBS (talk) 20:29, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

Yes I remember your work, and even more, the friendly and constrictive discussions you had with some editors who know all about the campaign from reading a web page or watching a TV programme!!

Thanks for the offer but I have done all the editing I intend to do on it for now. I have a couple of requests outstanding with other editors and I will come back to this article when they reply. However I am working on Waterloo at the moment (200 years and all that). Have you seen the additions I have added? There is a new Waterloo Campaign article using some of the old Hundred Days and additions from various PD sources. I have also created several detailed accounts by copying and lightly editing William Siborne's history which has created:


 * Waterloo Campaign: Start of hostilities (15 June)
 * Waterloo Campaign: Quatre Bras to Waterloo
 * Waterloo Campaign: Ligny through Wavre to Waterloo
 * Abdication of Napoleon, 1815
 * Waterloo Campaign: peace negotiations

I have also been a busy beaver copying primary sources to wikisource Wikisource:Portal:Waterloo Campaign and Wikisource:Portal:Hundred Days

During the course of creating these I have been looking at EB1911 this has led me to edit:
 * (because some of the Hundred Days article was copied from it -- I have not finished proofreading)
 * I initially did this one plug a hole in a disputed article called Campaign in north-east France (1814), so I have then realised that the Wellington's campaign in France was missing so I edited to give me text for a redirect called Campaign in south-west France (1814) and recently I have used the EB1911 Napoleonic Campaigns to flesh out the German Campaign of 1813
 * I initially did this one plug a hole in a disputed article called Campaign in north-east France (1814), so I have then realised that the Wellington's campaign in France was missing so I edited to give me text for a redirect called Campaign in south-west France (1814) and recently I have used the EB1911 Napoleonic Campaigns to flesh out the German Campaign of 1813

But this is really a distraction right now, because I want to finish a three part detailed article on Waterloo to Paris, before the 200th adversary of the battle of Waterloo (18th of June this year). Tick Tock. I don't know if I will finish it in time and I now I will have to abandon creating all the small ancillary articles that support them taht I have been creating up to now, although recently I have discovered which helps, (eg ) to plug the gap and I can come back to them later. It comes as a surprise to me that there were probably another 10,000 or so casualties from all the small actions that took place and yet the popular histories normally dismiss the days other than the 16th and 18th of the campaign as if nothing happened.

Reading the details of the campaign make it obvious that by 1815 and near 30 years of continuous fighting, both sides had come a very long way from the armies that turned out for the early campaigns. But then that sort of development is very common in war.-- PBS (talk) 23:23, 24 May 2015 (UTC)


 * I might purchase a copy. I purchased a kindle version of his book Waterloo 1815 : Wavre, Plancenoit and the Race to Paris to help me with the Ligny to Wavre and Waterloo article (which it did). Interestingly he and Silborne were singing off the same hymn sheet when it come to why Napoleon lost the campaign (he should have got out of bed earlier on the morning of the 17th). If he had it would have been all over for Wellington before lunch with almost a replay in reverse of Waterloo a day later (Wellington trapped south of the Dyle and the Genappe defile, his front held by Ney and then hit in the side by Napoleon).  -- PBS (talk) 23:50, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
 * Wellington's only option to avoid annihilation that morning would have been to retreat west away from Napoleon, Brussels and the Prussians. But that as Churchill said "The terrible ifs accumulate". What I think was very impressive and something I knew little about until I started the article Waterloo Campaign: Start of hostilities (15 June), is just how textbook Zieten's fighting retreat on the 15th was. -- PBS (talk) 00:00, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * I appreciate that, and all I was saying is that you are probably right as his book helped me with the other article. Siborne mentions the forts in passing but does not go into details if they were bypassed and did not surrender before Paris did. He mentions them is a brief one page passage The reduction of the northern French fortresses. -- PBS (talk) 00:21, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
 * One account I came across was about Huningue and its commander Joseph Barbanègre a hero to the French and a war criminal to the Coalition (everything and nothing changes). -- PBS (talk) 00:49, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXI, June 2015
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Your 5"/38 caliber correction 'they to the'
The expression 'they shear' is correct because in the original context 'shear' is a verb meaning to cut and not a noun. The parts shear the pins, or the parts cut the pins.

In order to reduce the possible 'shear' definition confusion, I have rewritten the fuse section. I hope helps. FTC Gerry (talk) 16:22, 24 June 2015 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CXII, July 2015
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A stupid kitten for you!
Hello Tirronan: I just got your message, 4 years later. That was the last time I logged in. I was just showing my daughter how Wiki is edited and those changes were only up for about two or three minutes. By the way, you obviously haven't seen how much bullshit is in Wiki. Nonetheless, I love the site, I have used it quite a bit for math and science inquiries and I have donated hundreds of dollars to the site for the privilege of using it. Comments like yours however are ignorant. No doubt you saw that I changed the name back quickly, but instead of sending a polite 'please don't do that' you chose to be threatening. People like you start wars and kill people. Go to #$%&. Robert

Robseasting (talk) 19:12, 19 August 2015 (UTC) 

It was a standard template warning about as personal as a form letter... We have no way of knowing a real vandal from an "oh lets see what happens" type. You honestly replied to a message 4 years old? Best to you and yours. Tirronan (talk)

The Bugle: Issue CXIII, August 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CXIV, September 2015
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WikiProject Military history coordinator election
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The Bugle: Issue CXV, October 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CXVI, November 2015
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Nominations for the Military history WikiProject historian and newcomer of the year awards now open!
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The Bugle: Issue CXVII, December 2015
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The Bugle: Issue CXVIII, January 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXIX, February 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXX, March 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXI, April 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXII, May–June 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXIII, July 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXIV, August 2016
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The Bugle: Issue CXXV, September 2016
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