User talk:Tirronan/Archive 8

The Bugle: Issue CLI, November 2018
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Nominations now open for "Military historian of the year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" awards
Nominations for our annual Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year awards are open until 23:59 (GMT) on 15 December 2018. Why don't you nominate the editors who you believe have made a real difference to the project in 2018? MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:26, 3 December 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLII, December 2018
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Voting now open for "Military historian of the year" and "Military history newcomer of the year" awards
Voting for our annual Military historian of the year and Military history newcomer of the year awards is open until 23:59 (GMT) on 30 December 2018. Why don't you vote for the editors who you believe have made a real difference to Wikipedia's coverage of military history in 2018? MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 02:17, 16 December 2018 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLIII, January 2019
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Reversion of War of 1812
Hey, I noticed you reverted several edits I've made on the War of 1812. I would first like to remind you that you can revert individual edits (if you didn't notice, 3/4 of the edits you reverted were grammatical/copyedits). As for the last edit (which I assume was your primary contention). That was added three days ago via this edit here. If you have a serious contention with what I said, and what was the infobox only four days ago, then I'd invite you to bring it up in the talk page, and present a source where the issue of impressment, or American sailor rights were brought up in the Treaty of Ghent (which concluded the war), or a source describing any practice of impressment post-April 1814, when the Royal Navy was rapidly downsizing a bloated naval force. Leventio (talk) 10:06, 26 January 2019 (UTC)


 * My reversal was mostly based on the fact that you began making said changes without bringing it up on the talk page. I found the term aboriginal offensive as hell. And, yes I am part Cherokee and Creek. Said or unsaid, the British Navy went to some lengths to ensure that American ships were not stopped even during the hundred days. Even though a full-blown panic was in its gale. However, most of these things had already been discussed and worked out. In my case, I saw it as making 3 steps back. So if you want to make said changes then bring them up on the talk page 1st as you have requested of me.Tirronan (talk) 17:19, 26 January 2019 (UTC)


 * The aboriginal edit is understandable and has been reverted (I mean, the terminology is viewed differently in Canada as a catch all term, I still incorrectly there, but I digress...). As for the British impressment policies, the article version as of three days ago did not have that in the infobox, and I reverted it given it was added with little context, or citation to support it (I mean, if it did, we'd have to rework the last prose of the War of 1812, which explicitly makes it clear that those issues were not addressed). Anyhow, it is on the editor(s) that added the "bold" content (i.e. Impressment in the infobox) to present the evidence as to why their edits should be included, not on the contester (as per WP:CYCLE, I already presented, my case, its not in the Treaty, and it was effectively ended in April 1814 (as for the Hundred Days, the Royal Navy as a whole was not expanding, and definitely not to the point where they needed to reintroduce impressment), I await yours, or the original contributor who added to contest that). Leventio (talk) 18:52, 26 January 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLIV, February 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLV, March 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLVI, April 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLVII, May 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLVIII, June 2019
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Ways to improve Battle of New Orleans British Order of Battle
Hello, Tirronan,

Thanks for creating Battle of New Orleans British Order of Battle! I edit here too, under the username Boleyn and it's nice to meet you :-)

I wanted to let you know that I have tagged the page as having some issues to fix, as a part of our page curation process and note that:-

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, leave a comment here and prepend it with. And, don't forget to sign your reply with. For broader editing help, please visit the Teahouse.

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Boleyn (talk) 20:28, 21 June 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLIX, July 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLX, August 2019
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Backlog Banzai
In the month of September, Wikiproject Military history is running a project-wide edit-a-thon, Backlog Banzai. There are heaps of different areas you can work on, for which you claim points, and at the end of the month all sorts of whiz-bang awards will be handed out. Every player wins a prize! There is even a bit of friendly competition built in for those that like that sort of thing. Sign up now at WikiProject Military history/September 2019 Backlog Banzai to take part. For the coordinators, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:18, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Cheers, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:39, 1 September 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:United states navy anti aircraft developments in ww2


Hello, Tirronan. It has been over six months since you last edited the Articles for Creation submission or Draft page you started, "United states navy anti aircraft developments in ww2".

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Thank you for your submission to Wikipedia! JMHamo (talk) 08:34, 4 September 2019 (UTC)

Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced
G'day everyone, voting for the 2019 Wikiproject Military history coordinator tranche is now open. This is a simple approval vote; only "support" votes should be made. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 03:37, 15 September 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXI, September 2019
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Wikiproject Military history coordinator election half-way mark
G'day everyone, the voting for the XIX Coordinator Tranche is at the halfway mark. The candidates have answered various questions, and you can check them out to see why they are running and decide whether you support them. Project members should vote for any candidates they support by 23:59 (UTC) on 28 September 2018. Thanks, Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 07:37, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXII, October 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXIII, November 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXIV, December 2019
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The Bugle: Issue CLXV, January 2020
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The Bugle: IssueICLXVI, February 2020
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March Madness 2020
G'day all, March Madness 2020 is about to get underway, and there is bling aplenty for those who want to get stuck into the backlog by way of tagging, assessing, updating, adding or improving resources and creating articles. If you haven't already signed up to participate, why not? The more the merrier! Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 08:19, 29 February 2020 (UTC) for the coord team

The Bugle: Issue CLXVII, March 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXVIII, April 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXIX, May 2020
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War of 1812
Did you post your comments in the right section? TFD (talk) 11:16, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXX, June 2020
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War of 1812
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Elinruby (talk) 07:13, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

War of 1812 some more
There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Fringe theory/Noticeboard regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Elinruby (talk) 08:54, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue CLXXI, July 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXII, August 2020
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Topic Ban on War of 1812
Tirronan, have now mentioned the idea of me being topic banned from the war of 1812 page twice. Rather than you bringing it up and threatening me with it, I would like you to start the process. I am over you threatening me with this, and continuously making comments about me trolling the page, when as far as I am concerned, I am just trying to keep the pro US bias of the page. There is more than one point of view about a topic, and my presense on that article over the years has kept the aritcle more netural. In addition, some of your ocmments are quite uncivil, and I think going against WP:CIV policy. Deathlibrarian (talk) 02:40, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

I am not trying to be uncivil, however, you are bashing the same thing over and over. You have been told that many times. Nor am I threatening you. However, I note that any addition that you propose seems to spin the article away from any historical fact. As for uncivil, I'll direct you to the comments about me on pages all over by you. Feel free to take any action you like. I have 10 years of your comments and POV warring to use. Adios. Tirronan (talk) 06:34, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * YOU ARE continuously being uncivil towards me. I may dissagree with you, but I have for the most part, tried to be civil to you (including even wishing you well on your book), but you continue to be rude towards me, in my opinion, to what may equate to bullying. I come on to Wikipedia as a volunteer, using my free time to try to improve articles, and I have been at times, the only editor that has tried to keep the War of 1812 article unbiased. If you want to play that game, I'll call your bluff. I have 10 years of YOUR comments, and I can post them here on your talk page, and you can explain how they are in anyway polite and meet WP:civ guidelines. I'm sorry, I don't see any reason why I have to put up with your comments any more. Deathlibrarian (talk) 12:24, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * You lie to me and everyone in the article about sources and what they say. Yes, you have talked about me like a dog. Fair enough I can get over that. Yeah, I can get rough about an idea. But you lie to us. And it isn't just on the 1812 article either. I went and checked. The same complaints on other articles. I won't ask for an RFC because you and I have a contentious history. But, you seem to have a contentious history with people all over Wikipedia? Naw it just me right? We might disagree on issues, and that is fine, but your lying about references and the veracity of your authors? Naming Cohen as an RS historian when it took 3 minutes max to find out that wasn't his major? Creative interpretations of what a historian writes instead of the truth? No, I don't have a good opinion of you. For one thing, I have a suspicion that you have never read a history on the war of 1812. I don't know that but the thing you say sure doesn't give me any confidence. You say you are not trolling but you bring up the same things dozens of times. That isn't trolling? Praytell, what is? And no, you are not taking bias out of the article. You are POV warring. At least that is the way that I see it.

Then there is the other thing I've kept my mouth shut about. You came back into the article with Unbias_Victory and Ammerican_CP. Both were under sock puppets I hope that is a coincidence. But you can't really say anything that I would believe anymore. So to answer your question will I start and RFC no, do I think you are due one, yes. Tirronan (talk) 14:43, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Ok, I have asked you to stop making these rude comments, threats of bans, and bullying.... and be civil. Instead of addressing that, you have rolled more insults and attacks, and a whole bunch of lies and insults "I have a suspicion that you have never read a history on the war of 1812" and claim I am using sockpuppets. This isn't reassuring me this is going to stop. I'm not sitting around and going to endure this any longer. We are all volunteers, and people shouldn't have to work on an article with someone making these comments all the time. And I won't. Deathlibrarian (talk) 16:06, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Sigh, DL I am not insulting you I am bringing up why you are I are always at loggerheads. I see it was an utter waste of time. Tirronan (talk) 16:20, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
 * This issue has been listed on the third Opinion noticeboard for comment 3O Deathlibrarian (talk) 02:02, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I was advised this needed to be added to the admin noticeboard, and have done this. You may want add your side of the story - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Are_these_comments_meeting_WP:civil_guidelines_or_not? Deathlibrarian (talk) 03:05, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

And, that is the proper place for this. However, as I stated before, and as has been stated by other editors, don't misquote historians. If you kept your points to bullet points that you wanted to be addressed and kept it short. I really wouldn't have a single issue with you. The forever blog and the misquotes, don't help your case, In fact they hurt your case. I keeping with my comments, I'm through with this conversation. Tirronan (talk) 15:22, 9 August 2020 (UTC)

Wikiproject Military history coordinator election nominations open
Nominations for the upcoming project coordinator election are now open. A team of up to ten coordinators will be elected for the next year. The project coordinators are the designated points of contact for issues concerning the project, and are responsible for maintaining our internal structure and processes. They do not, however, have any authority over article content or editor conduct, or any other special powers. More information on being a coordinator is available here. If you are interested in running, please sign up here by 23:59 UTC on 14 September! Voting doesn't commence until 15 September. If you have any questions, you can contact any member of the coord team. Peacemaker67 (click to talk to me) 02:06, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue Issue CLXXIII, September 2020
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Milhist coordinator election voting has commenced
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXIV, October 2020
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The Bugle: Issue CLXXV, November 2020
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