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Jean-Yves Béziau
You seem to have it in for this man. Please remember this is an encyclopedia, intended to neutrally summarize what reliable sources say about any given topic. It is not an appropriate venue for personal vendetta's or dislikes. And while I can't read your mind, that's certainly how your activity comes across. Kleuske (talk) 20:07, 1 August 2023 (UTC)


 * Hello, I'm sorry if this is how my modification has come up. The main reason is that there is no actual to prove some information on the website (title of professor at Rio). Moreover, and it seems the most important there is no secondary source on Béziau's creation of World Logic Day, only primary and promotional ones. Again, I thank you for your criticism and I'm waiting for your answer on this topic. Tisma08 (talk) 20:29, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
 * You throw the word promotional around a lot, yet fail to show how the statements and sites you object to are promotional. You ignore a publication on the subject (1st World Logic Day: 14 January 2019), which does support the claim he came up with that day. The fact that sources on this matter are primary sources is not that strange, since philosophy in general and (philosophical) logic in particular are rather specialist subjects. We require independent sources only to establish notability, not to support individual statements.
 * Moreover I strongly suspect that you previously edited as User:Tawiscaron, who has a very similar interest and introduced a lengthy, out of context quote which I removed as WP:UNDUE (given a rather long list of publications) and intended to portray the subject in a negative light.
 * Lastly, if I start a conversation on your userpage, please do not replicate it on mine. That only makes the conversation difficult. If you want my attention, use a ping and have some patience. Kleuske (talk) 20:48, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I am not them. You don't know my interests. All quotes are out of context, that's what a quote is. The single thing that most sets Béziau apart from other philosophy professors who do not have wikipedia pages are his bizarre utterances on political correctness, and the equally bizarre fact that they got published in Synthese in a paper on logic. This is noteworthy information which the public has an interest in, unlike who first organized some logic conferences. Tawiscaron (talk) 01:40, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * This being your second edit to Wikipedia. You share this obvious dislike of this man and are quite knowledgable about philosophy professors and journals, as if you were a philosophy student. Both names have a Native American connotation, to boot. WP:DUCK says "quack!". Sorry. I do not believe a word of it. Kleuske (talk) 11:36, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * What I want to do is to translate the French version of Béziau's page to English (I have good knowledge of French). It mentions the controversy, as well as some existing criticism. I see you speak French so don't hesitate to read the French version. Tisma08 (talk) 12:43, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * lmao, calm down Sherlock Holmes. Tawiscaron (talk) 15:12, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I fully agree to re-insert the controversy: it is the raison d'être of Béziau's page. It is present on the French version, as I said. Tisma08 (talk) 12:45, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I find it amazing you criticize others for using primary sources, deleting large sections of the article based on hat, but see no problem with direct out of context quotes as "controversy", without sources supporting the controversial bit. It's almost as if you find that statement objectionable and are trying to project that in Wikipedia's voice. Kleuske (talk) 13:38, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The controversial bit is proved by the article from Dailynous.com. Synthese is an international philosophy journal welcoming different approaches, including marginal ones in logic. Tisma08 (talk) 15:08, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * You did not cite that, though. Kleuske (talk) 18:08, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Also, the raison d'etre for that article is WP:NPROF. If you disagree, you are free to nominate the article for deletion. Kleuske (talk) 13:41, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
 * I do not want to delete Beziau's page, so this is out of the topic. What I want to do is clarify the various reactions his works have generated, for example see Girard's (French logician) reaction on his website, or Girard's various articles. Tisma08 (talk) 15:13, 2 August 2023 (UTC)