User talk:Tisqupnaia2010

Tel Skuf and Telskuf
I saw that you set up a page for Telskuf which replicated Tel Skuf. I appreciate your efforts in trying to make sure people can find what they're looking for. However, creating two pages on the same topic just creates a maintenance nightmare. So instead I've created a redirect, so that anyone who looks for Telskuf will be taken to the Tel Skuf page. It's not hard to do - see WP:Redirect for instructions, if you think you might ever have to do it. If Telskuf is a common alternate spelling, you may want to edit it into the opening sentence of the Tel Skuf article. --Nat Gertler (talk) 05:33, 23 March 2010 (UTC)

Your recent edits
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Shlama Tisqupnaia, I agree with you 100% here. I wondered if you could check that the correct Keldaya name of Iraq is included here. thanks. ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 23:06, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

Linguistic reality
"Syriac" is an extinct language. "Neo-Aramaic" is a set of identifiable modern speech forms that are linguistically distinct. Wikipedia must rely on linguistic facts. If you want to call the group of Neo-Aramaic languages "Neo-Aramaic", then that is a linguistically accurate term in the sense that you mention "Turoyo", "Chaldean Neo-Aramaic", and "Assyrian Neo-Aramaic". These could also be grouped under the term "Eastern Neo-Aramaic". But calling these forms "Syriac" is inaccurate. (Taivo (talk) 03:27, 27 March 2010 (UTC))

Proposed deletion of Assyrian Fascism


The article Assyrian Fascism has been proposed for deletion&#32; because of the following concern:
 * Attack page, POV pushing.

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Please consider improving the article to address the issues raised. Removing  will stop the proposed deletion process, but other deletion processes exist. The speedy deletion process can result in deletion without discussion, and articles for deletion allows discussion to reach consensus for deletion. Reconsider !  05:49, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:AFD would be my next step, unless the article is dramatically improved. Sorry, but the tone is not appropriate as it appears to serve as an attack article. - Reconsider !  06:26, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * With all due respect, I'm not sure if the two cases are comparable. The term "fascism" describes a specific ideological framework and should not be used simply as a tag to describe certain groups that may exhibit aggressive forms of "nationalism". I'm also concerned with the use of original research and POV pushing. - Reconsider !  10:43, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Assyrianization
Shlama Tisqupnaia, I just wanted to let you know about this stub I created, in case you needed to add to it. ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 03:41, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Church of the east
Dear Mr. Djwilms, for the post 1552, please see our intro for Chaldean Catholic Church. I have included a link to a very good book that you can probably find on google books. Here is the book. Please keep in mind that we have many Assyrian and Chaldean nationalists warring over this issue. In the article mentioned above, we have tried to be neutral. Please make sure to consider this. best regards, --Tisqupnaia2010 (talk) 05:52, 29 March 2010 (UTC) --Tisqupnaia2010 (talk) 05:52, 29 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Dear Tel Isqof resident (I guess that's what your name means),


 * Your Chaldean stuff is much better than its Nestorian equivalent in Assyrian Church of the East, and it's also at about the right length for inclusion in the main Church of the East article. What is needed, I think, is an expansion of the Chaldean Catholic Church article to about twice its present length and the transfer of the present stuff to the Church of the East article.  I'll see if I can find time to work on this in the next few weeks.


 * I've got Baum and Winkler, thanks, but I'd rather use sources like Tfinkdji, Giamil, Tisserant and Wilmshurst (myself).


 * Djwilms (talk) 07:48, 29 March 2010 (UTC)


 * P.S. I enjoyed your article Assyrian Fascism. I am presently writing my second book on the Church of the East, The Martyred Church, to be published in April 2010, and I am enjoying myself dealing with the topic of twentieth-century Assyrian nationalism.  Here's one paragraph which you might enjoy:


 * The claim to descent from the ancient Assyrians was first made at the end of the nineteenth century. The Christians living around Mosul always knew that they were living in what had once been Assyria, because the Bible (particularly the Book of Jonah) told them so.  For several centuries there was a Nestorian diocese of Nineveh, and the Nestorian metropolitans of Mosul styled themselves metropolitans of 'Athor', Assyria.  But it did not occur to any Nestorian Christian before the end of the nineteenth century to regard himself as an Assyrian.  We know the names of thousands of East Syrian bishops, priests, deacons and scribes between the third and nineteenth centuries, and there is not a Sennacherib or Ashurbanipal among them.  All this changed with the excavation of the ruins of Nineveh by Austin Layard in the 1840s.  Layard’s spectacular discoveries made the ancient Assyrians fashionable.  In 1881 the authorities of the Church of England decided to call their mission to the Nestorians ‘The Archbishop of Canterbury’s Mission to Assyrian Christians’ because nobody had heard of the Nestorians but everyone knew about the Assyrians.  In turn, this first, official use of ‘Assyrian’ did much to popularise the term among the Nestorians themselves.  They were quick to appreciate the fact that they enjoyed far higher visibility as ‘Assyrians’ than as Nestorians.  By the end of the First World War the term ‘Assyrian’ was in widespread use, and was regularly used in the diplomatic exchanges of the 1920s.  Wigram’s book The Assyrians and Their Neighbours (1929) further entrenched the term.  The result, in the 1920s and 1930s, was a vogue for Assyrian Christian names.   A male child might still be called Awdisho (‘Abdisho‘) or Dinkha (Denha), but as often as not he would have a brother named Sargon or a sister named Semiramis.


 * Djwilms (talk) 07:57, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Assyrian Fascism
I have nominated Assyrian Fascism, an article that you created, for deletion. I do not think that this article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and have explained why at Articles for deletion/Assyrian Fascism. Your opinions on the matter are welcome at that same discussion page; also, you are welcome to edit the article to address these concerns. Thank you for your time.Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Reconsider !  08:08, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

WP:ANI
This edit is completely inappropriate, please don't do that again. Further issues are being raised by another user at ANI, which drew my attention to the above edit. SGGH ping! 20:37, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Like wise your comments at Articles for deletion/Assyrian Fascism. Wikipedia takes personal attacks very seriously, it is not a Battlegound. If you continue you may have your editing rights restricted. SGGH ping! 20:39, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Your apology is noted my friend, however perhaps you should be apologising to the person you made the comments to, if you have not already. SGGH ping! 21:35, 29 March 2010 (UTC)

Recommendation
Dear Tisqupnaia, thankyou for taking care of User:Shmayo's vandalism for me. If Assyrian Fascism is deleted, don't worry, the same ground can be covered in the Assyrianization article. Shlama. ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 20:24, 30 March 2010 (UTC)


 * Dear Tisqupnaia and 'Mr Iraq',
 * I think your distaste for the bullying tactics used by Assyrian nationalists is entirely justified, but I'm afraid that you are unlikely to get away with an article entitled Assyrian Fascism! I haven't looked at the article Assyrianization yet, but I see that there's an article entitled Assyrian nationalism, and perhaps something could go in there under the heading Methods or Tactics.


 * I will be devoting several paragraphs of my forthcoming book to the subject of Assyrian nationalism, and the negative effect (in my view) of the tactics used by some of the more extreme nationalists on the international image of the Church of the East, so it's a subject which I will be educating myself on over the next few months. You are both very welcome to use my paragraph, hot off the presses, on the origins of Assyrian nationalism, but as it has not yet been published I suggest you cite as its source an article by the late J. M. Fiey, 'Assyrians or Arameans?', which was published in The Syrian East (Madenkha Suryaya), volume 10 (1965).  I don't have the page references to hand, but I'm sure there's a link to this article somewhere on Wikiproject Assyria, or it shouldn't take you long to google it.  I've basically boiled down Fiey's 13-page article into a single paragraph, so it's a perfectly legitimate citation.


 * If I may, I'd like to run some of my stuff on Assyrian nationalism past you as I write it up. I know it's a sensitive subject, and although I wouldn't be bothered in the slightest if my book offended Assyrian extremists (indeed, quite the reverse), I would be very unhappy if I said anything that upset moderate Assyrians and Chaldeans.


 * Anyway, keep up the good work. The truth will prevail, eventually ...


 * Djwilms (talk) 01:54, 31 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I'll be more than happy to be of any help to you, Dr.  --Tisqupnaia2010 (talk) 08:49, 31 March 2010 (UTC)

Assyrian people
The Assyrian people article is about all three groups--Assyrians, Chaldeans, and Syriacs. The name of the article might be a problem, but the content is combined content. (Taivo (talk) 19:55, 4 April 2010 (UTC))
 * Prof., I am not sure if that article is about all three groups. The tone is quite biased. Anyone can notice that. However, renaming the article to reflect the common name would be a good first step. The article could be named Chaldean/Assyrian/Syriac (the sequence here is based on population, and it is the exact translation of the Arabic name agreed on in Iraq. Once the common name is established, the contents could be changed to equally represent all three ethnic groups. When this is done, we can make the pages of "Assyrian People", "Chaldean People", and "Syriac People" redirect to this page. However, As long as this article is under the current name, I'll have to remove the word Chaldean from it. --Tisqupnaia2010 (talk) 02:48, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not based upon the dictates of a single individual. It is based on consensus.  You need to build consensus for your edits.  Once you have built a consensus, then you can step cautiously.  But right now, your edits are unwelcome and not appropriate.  Either build a consensus for changing the name (although that is unlikely given the fact that Wikipedia disfavors names with slashes) or build a consensus for removing content.  You cannot do anything on that article without consensus.  Devise more neutral wording if you wish, but cease your deletions without building a consensus for it.  (Taivo (talk) 04:21, 5 April 2010 (UTC))

SPI
Hey khon where are you? It turned out you were right that there is a connection between Shmayo and Assyria 90. I wasn't sure there would be but it turns out there is. Incredibly though, someone closed the case as if there was nothing to be said of the findings, which showed that these two accounts; both belonging to Syriac Orthodox Assyrians, also both use the same ISP in Sweden, and yet for no explicable reason they have never spoken to each other once during years of Assyrian-related editing - despite popping up together in the same places, and virtually replying to comments on behalf of one-another! It has to be outside the bounds of plausibility that this is all just coincidence. ܥܝܪܐܩ (talk) 01:13, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Shlomo Ahon
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