User talk:Tlele



A tag has been placed on Sor Klinmee Gym requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done because the article, which appears to be about a real person, individual animal(s), an organization (band, club, company, etc.), or web content, does not indicate how or why the subject of the article is important or significant: that is, why an article about it should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, articles that do not indicate the subject's importance or significance may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

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See the guidelines for specific types of articles: biographies, websites, bands, or companies. Jus da  fax   02:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The article lacks proof of notability and reliable sources per WP:NOTE and WP:RS although it is otherwise well constructed. But notability and sourcing are rock-bottom requirements. Facebook and YouTube links do not help.  I'm sorry, since a lot of work was clearly put into this article.   Jus  da  fax   02:57, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Thanks. The gym is well known enough to qualify for notability and coverage of its fighters and trainers is out there. I flubbed the original article with too few third party references. Should have read the verifiability page more closely. I've added some references and external links from online magazines and BoxRec type sites, as well as removed the Facebook links. I've also bumped up the section on famous boxers, since that's what most people will be looking for. Could someone review it again? Thanks.Tlele (talk) 07:43, 9 May 2011 (UTC)

Notability is not inherited
Hello, Tlele. I have just read you post at Talk:Sor Klinmee Gym I note that you base your claim of notability largely on the basis of the significance of fighters from that gym. However, notability is not inherited: that is to say that we need evidence that the gym is notable in its own right, and notability of people associated with it is not enough. Neither in the content of the article nor in the references and external links that you provided can I find any evidence that the gym itself satisfies Wikipedia's notability criteria. In fact many, perhaps most, of those references and links don't even mention the gym, and others give it only a brief mention: there is very little evidence of substantial coverage. JamesBWatson (talk) 10:27, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, James, for the detailed response. It does make more sense to write about the boxers if they're the ones getting coverage. Once again, thanks.Tlele (talk) 13:11, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

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