User talk:Tlz allen2

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Re: Ridgecrest, California
The truth is that a user that was blocked added all of the stuff and they removed it to get back at them. They use the WP:NOTDIRECTORY and WP:USCITY a way to get away with it. Another thing is this particular user cant be blocked, Because there ip address changes and it makes them mad. One more thing.. I am shocked that they didn’t block you because you edited Ridgecrest, CA. I guess they got tired of blocking people. --71.105.39.114 (talk) 16:23, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

Whoa! Wait a minute! Why would I get blocked for adding an accurate link to the site? I didn't do, nor was I attempting to do anything malicious. I just added the link and two notable residents that were missing. I thought this was supposed to be a community project. Can you explain that?
 * The editor who posted the note above apparently has had difficulty understanding the norms around here.You won't get blocked unless you edit war or act in an uncollegial manner. Just play nice and there won't be any problems.   Will Beback    talk    02:13, 31 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Thanks. I was just trying to be helpful and attempting to make the data as accurate and useful as possible.Tlz allen2 (talk) 22:53, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

Sherman E Burroughs High School
Thanks for your addiitons to Sherman E Burroughs High School. However please review the verifiability policy. In short, everything needs to be verifiable, which usually means having been published in a reliable source. How would a reader verify what you've written about the school's athletic history? Is it covered in a local newspaper? In a yearbook? You have so much detail that I presume it isn't just from memory.  Will Beback   talk    01:39, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes, I was the sports editor for the local newspaper (The Daily Independent) for 5-1/2 years and lived some of it (I was on the 1982 basketball team listed). Some of the other data came from another of the previous sports editors. And the list of principals we had compiled from the high school's current principal. So I just need to know the proper way to site that stuff and I'll be glad to provide whatever is required, provided it is available. Thanks for the help Will.


 * This is tricky. The info is not contentious, so the standards can slide a little. Perhaps the best way of dealing with this would be add a reference note that says something like, "Summarized from reports in The Daily Independent". For how to cite things in general, the simplest way is to wrap the citation with tags. That will create a footnote. Of course the more precise the better. At the elaborate end of the scale, there are templates for citations.   Will Beback    talk    19:47, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Would it be good for the sports editors that actually covered the events, or had them related to them, and made the entries leave some kind of signature? I just added a reference for the 1982 basketball championship. Can you please tell me if I did that correctly? And I really do appreciatre all your help. :)Tlz allen2 (talk) 20:25, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * This edit, in which you cited a yearbook, is perfect. I'm not sure what you mena by having sports editors add a signature. The standard at Wikipedia is verifiability - in other words, a reader who wishes to confirm a fact should be able to (somehow) find the information in a published, reliable source. It doesn't matter who writes the article on Wikipedia, even if they're experts. The material still needs to be verifiable. However a sports editor may have old clippings or other sources that the rest of us would have difficulty finding, so their expertise could be very beneficial.   Will Beback    talk    20:39, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
 * So I added references for the newspaper in Ridgecrest that chronicled the teams. However, the paper does not have this information online. Is that important, or is it enough that they could contact the newspaper to gain validation? Tlz allen2 (talk) 01:58, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
 * Online access isn't required.   Will Beback    talk    02:46, 7 August 2009 (UTC)

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