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Your edits at Amy Coney Barrett
I think it's clear that the New York Times is more reliable than "your consultation" or what you may know that's not public information. Until the NYT either publishes a retraction or another reliable source puts out information to the contrary, I think it's fair to say that your edit should be reverted. Thus, I've done the same. – JocularJellyfish TalkContribs 13:43, 18 December 2017 (UTC)


 * I also questioned the removal of the People of Praise connection. Where has Ms. Barrett denied being involved? In what way does the Times piece border on libel? Also, it does far more than quote a single anonymous source: in addition to citing "[c]urrent and former members of People of Praise" (of unspecified number) as confirming her membership, it references multiple entries in a People of Praise publication and her disclosed holding of a school trustee position that, according to the Times, was only available to People of Praise members. Rebb  ing  14:23, 18 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Judge Barrett has personally said that she is not currently a member of the group, and the article in question also says that her husbands father is a member of the group, even though he is an atheist. She is not currently a member of the group, and the other inaccuracies in the article are more than enough to suggest that the NYT article is unreliable. Tmatysik (talk) 20:24, 18 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Do you have any verifiable references to support any of that? Even if you do, for fairly intuitive reasons, the Times article would not be contradicted: supposing Ms. Barrett is not currently a member of People of Praise and her husband an atheist, people leave organizations, and atheists sometimes are members of church and other religious communities. Rebb  ing  00:25, 19 December 2017 (UTC)


 * On a personal note, I'd like to add that I watched Ms. Barrett's confirmation hearing in full back in September after reading her much-discussed article. The article she co-authored sought to show how a faithful Catholic judge might honor both her moral obligations and her obligations as a judge, not compromising either, as she would be by allowing the Church's teachings about capital punishment to weigh in her decision. I do not think a sensible person could read that article and conclude, as many have suggested, that Ms. Barrett wished to put her faith above the Constitution; the very premise of the article was that such a thing would be a breach of one's duty. Whether the result of willful malice or of minds blinded by partisan antipathy, such an obviously false assessment of Ms. Barrett's record was shocking to me, and the hearing was even worse: from misrepresentations about her writing, to sharp questions about her faith and her views on precedent, to Mr. Franken's attempt to sully her by association with an advocacy group that had sponsored a class she taught—as if an educator ought only to teach students whose views she shares! —it was untruthful and unfair, and I am amazed and distraught and grieved. Rebb  ing  01:59, 20 December 2017 (UTC)

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