User talk:Tnamore

Speedy deletion nomination of The National Alliance for Insurance Education & Research
A tag has been placed on The National Alliance for Insurance Education & Research requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section G12 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be a blatant copyright infringement. For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material, and as a consequence, your addition will most likely be deleted. You may use external websites as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences. This part is crucial: say it in your own words.

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July 2009
Please do not remove speedy deletion notices from pages you have created yourself. Please use the template on the page instead if you disagree with the deletion, and make your case on the page's. ttonyb1 (talk) 14:55, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Hi! Wikipedia isn't a forum for advertising, and the rules don't allow us to use the name of a business as a username, so I've blocked this account and deleted the advertisement you created. Although we have strict rules against advertising, we're otherwise very nice people, so if you're interested in volunteering to help write the encyclopedia, you're entirely welcome. Just create a personal username and jump right in- but be careful to avoid writing about your own business. Thanks! If you believe this block is an error, you may contest the block by adding the text below.

I thought that the TNA was "The National Alliance..." so I apologize for that part of my error. However, your LinkedIn profile indicates that you are a marketing professional; is the National Alliance for Insurance Education and Research a client of yours? As you saw, the articles you were creating didn't fully meet Wikipedia's guidelines for inclusion, and were being tagged for deletion anyway; I'd be reluctant to unblock you if you're going to return to creating similar articles, because it requires more administrators to take time to review and delete them. Are you interested in writing about any subjects other than this organization? -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 19:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I am interested in creating and adding value to all articles related to the insurance industry. I work for a non-profit organization that tries to help promote awareness and education about the insurance industry.
 * What I'm looking for is a reason to believe that you understand the notability criteria and the conflict of interest guidelines, and that, when you're unblocked, you'll follow them. Help me out here. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 19:43, 3 July 2009 (UTC).

I am brand new to wikipedia and it is quite daunting. I have read the both of those guidelines and I am unsure why the explaination of insurance industry designation would be a conflict of interest. I do not wish to promote any one company, I just wanted to put facts out there about a peice of the insurance industry. This designation is only offered by one organization, I do not wish to promote the organization, just have a resource to explain what the professional designation is. Similar to a certified public accountant. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Certified_Public_Accountant Organizations and designations are mentioned all over wikipeida. What could be changed about those pages to make them more notable? I'm just looking to create a resource, so I am very open o suggestions on content.
 * None of the articles you created cited any independent sources- that's why they kept being deleted. Creating lots of pages about the same organization also made you look like you had the goal of promoting that organization; people doing that are probably the biggest problem that Wikipedia faces, so your edits- lots of uncited pages about the same organization- brought you quickly to other users' attention.  -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 19:57, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

I included indepedent sources within the industry under "external links" should they be used as footnotes/citations instead? I wanted to create the other designations pages and a informational page about the organization to be able to use as links and references on "orphan" pages and other insurance related pages. The only problem is that only one organization offers these designations but over 70,000 people have them. Below is an example of another insurance designation i was trying to follow. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chartered_Property_Casualty_Underwriter


 * I've unblocked you. I think you still have some learning to do but you're open to it, and since there's nothing wrong with your username I've lifted the block.  Ok here are some things to keep in mind that should help your editing.  First, I looked through all your contributions including your deleted ones, and none of your postings have really had good sources.  What you should be looking for, to establish notability of the topics you're writing about, is coverage in independent sources like books or magazine articles.  And keep in mind that notability is not inherited: it may be that the certifying body is notable but all these individual designations aren't.  (You might consider just making a list of them on the page, rather than separate articles.)  The thing that you really need to do to keep out of trouble is avoid posting material you didn't write yourself; I see that your draft of The National Alliance for Insurance Education & Research was deleted because of copyright issues.  Copyright issues are serious but even beyond that, text not written for Wikipedia is very unlikely to be appropriate in tone or style.  Best of luck with your editing, and feel free to ask me any questions you might have about editing.  Mango juice talk 21:35, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

CISR
In the United States, Certified Insurance Counselor (CIC) is an insurance agent professional certification designation. The CIC certification program was started by the National Alliance for Insurance Education & Research in Austin, Texas in 1987. Some CISR courses can be used to fulfill state continuing education requirements for licensing as an insurance agent.