User talk:Tnewbould

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. Thanks for your edits to Newcastle College. Contributions must be adequately sourced to reliable sources. Although I appreciate that the College might not want the allegations about bullying and bonuses included within its Wikipedia article, Wikipedia must remain an objective reflection of reality. In other words, a great deal of what was removed is sourced to The Guardian, a 'quality' newspaper than fully satisfies the RS criteria. Additionally, in order to obtain an objective overview of the issues, the passage that you removed contained the company's response to allegations. If you wish to further the college's responses to this accusations, you can add relevant material that is sourced to similarly reliable sources. The JPS talk to me  13:57, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
 * A basic Google search reveals that the name of this account shares the name of NCG's Group Marketing and Communications Director. You may or may not be this individual. However, I must highlight Wikipedia's conflict of interest policy, which says that Wikipedia must not be used for promotional purposes. The JPS talk to me  15:29, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for your comments. Your re-edit has placed back a number of completely inaccurate and incorrect points about Newcastle College. I'll suggest corrections but include them here for your reference.

In addition, your point regarding The Guardian is misleading - a number of aspects which are incorrect are attributed to the Guardian by the poster when they were never cited by the Guardian. -

"The main area of business for Newcastle College is its elite contact centre set up in 2005 to promote training in the workplace, with its highly trained members of staff." - Newcastle College does not have this facility and it is not 'the main area of business for Newcastle College'. The statement is completely pointless and misleading which is why I made the edit.

"Because the College cannot issue higher education qualifications itself, its HE course are validated by Leeds Metropolitan, Newcastle, Northumbria and Sunderland Universities." As the article states later Newcastle College has been awarded Foundation Degree awarding powers in 2011 so it validates its own degrees. Leeds Met was a validating partner previously, but Newcastle, Northumbria, and Sunderland are completely incorrect. This element is therefore out of date which is why I made the edit.

Your amended version of the coverage of the final part now reads more accurately. However, the references for the final sentence, "These allegations were repeated on the BBC's regional Inside Out programme in January 2012.[10][11]" are completely inaccurate - they do not exist if you follow the link. In addition, in order to present a balanced piece surely you must mention that the BBC Inside Out programme praised Newcastle College for being one of the best colleges in the country with an outstanding reputation.

My addition regarding Newcastle College being named as the best general FE college in England for FT 16-18 education for three successive years is surely more relevant than any information about restructuring. Tnewbould (talk) 10:43, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * All additions to Wikipedia must be referenced to verifiable reliable sources. A modest amount can be sourced to a primary source (in this case, the company's website), although ideally secondary sources should be used. Perhaps you would like to add such sources? Both references currently support the allegations of bullying that were featured on Inside Out -- unfortunately the sources do not appear to substantiate that more positive claims you mention. If you locate a neutral source that mentions that the programme praised the college, then feel free to add it. The JPS talk to me  15:10, 13 February 2012 (UTC)

Conflict of interest

 * Please see Conflict_of_interest/Noticeboard. Thanks SmartSE (talk) 16:53, 13 February 2012 (UTC)