User talk:Tnxman307/Archive 14

Adopt-a-user reminder
Hello, I have completed a general cleanup of the adopter information page for the adopt-a-user project, located here. During my cleanup, I have removed several inactive and retired users. In order to provide interested adoptees with an easy location to find adopters, it is essential that the page be up-to-date with the latest information possible. Thus:


 * If you are no longer interested in being an adopter, please remove yourself from the list.
 * If you are still interested, please check the list to see if any information needs to be updated or added - especially your availability. Thank you.


 * You are receiving this message because you are listed as an adopter here.

Delivered by MessageDeliveryBot on behalf of Netalarm (talk) at 05:50, 23 September 2010 (UTC).


 * Thank you, replied there. TN X Man  11:44, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Improvement to article
Hi, I would like to add some text to "Comparison of web application frameworks" but I'am not sure is it spam. There is a framework/language called jPalio but it is developed with properiarity license (like WebObjects or ItsNat which are in this article) BUT it has special license for non commercial use. Can I add entry for this language and a reference link under article?

83.6.131.203 (talk) 08:49, 23 September 2010 (UTC) Radosław Osiński

User Talk:Snooche
Hi, I see you've blocked the user, but  there's nothing  to  that  effect  on  his talk  page. I'm about  to  replace his most  recent  removal  of the  CSD  tpl.--Kudpung (talk) 16:56, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Sorry about that, got distracted at the wrong moment. I've tagged the userpages. TN X Man  17:25, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Karmaisking
Just wanted to make sure that you were not confirming that the IP address was ✅ in regards to Karmaisking. This is correct right? -- DQ.alt (t)  (e)   17:25, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thank you for catching that. I did not mean to comment on the IP - I was only focused on the named account and did not see the IP listed below. TN X Man  21:56, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, were all so used to it that we don't think twice about the stuff ;) I have done stuff like this too. -- DQ  (t)  (e)  21:59, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

Udmshow block
Although I'm not unblocking here, I wouldn't have blocked myself because I fail to see a sufficient enough connection between name and edits. Underground dance music is a genre the editor has alleged exists; it's not an entity. Nor did they seem to be promoting any shows of that music. Daniel Case (talk) 14:08, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I saw several Google results for a show by that name, but perhaps I jumped the gun a tad. If you would like to unblock, please feel free. TN X Man  15:33, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Electionwatcher2
Thanks for the quick response. 117Avenue (talk) 15:01, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. TN X Man  15:33, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

*************!!!!
Can you hide these edits, as they are grossly insulting.?.
 * I don't think they are insulting enough to warrant hiding. Just seems like childish vandalism. TN X Man  16:14, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Wasn't sure, looked pretty nasty to me.--inte lati (Call) 16:16, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigations/Hanadhul
Thanks for the quick action on that matter. It seems that I placed my request for admin intervention in the wrong place, thinking the sockpuppetry was the big issue, when the legal threats were more crucial. It's just the first time I happen across legal threats. For my future reference, what would you say was the path I should have taken to address this? --Muhandes (talk) 19:15, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Either filing an SPI case or posting the issue at ANI would have worked. Both issues are important, but both would have had the same result. My opinion is that legal threats should be dealt with more quickly, but your mileage may vary. TN X Man  19:21, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Block summary for User:Merrytimes
You just blocked User:Merrytimes with the description that it is a "vandalism only account". This is not true, as Merrytimes has made a large number of constructive edits to stubs relating to Puerto Rico. The reason that he should be blocked is for his persistent and strange personal attacks.--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 21:00, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm actually still investigating that account. "Vandalism-only" may not be the best descriptor, true, but will it suffice as a place-holder? TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  21:58, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes but ok, maybe u should change it later, when you are done with your investigation--just for the sake of accuracy. :-)--Bad edits r dumb (talk) 05:22, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of BrightRoll entry
Hello,

I recently updated BrightRoll's entry to include updated comScore metrics and recent company information. I'd linked articles from TechCrunch and AdAge, among others. I'm just wondering why the changes were not accepted. The statistics in the current version are outdated by more than a year.

Thanks for any clarification. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Derekkorte (talk • contribs) 16:03, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I apologize - I misread your edit. I've restored the information you added. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  18:20, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Your block
Re Did you really intend an indef block after a single edit? It seems kinda draconian... LeadSongDog come howl!  18:51, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * He/She/It is also operating a few other accounts. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  18:52, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah! I'll check SPI. Thanks.LeadSongDog come howl!  18:58, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * It's not listed there. I acted on some suspicious reports at AIV regarding vandalism at MidAmerica Nazarene University. Apparently someone was playing around. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  19:06, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Right, I advised at User_talk:Qwrk. I'm just not so sure that all quackers are committed ducks. Cheers, LeadSongDog come howl!  19:34, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Verybluesky SPI followon
Could you take a quick peek at the edit history of "Adria Airways".

I warned last night. Today, we suddenly have two IP addresses editing the article out of nowhere, and no activity from Verybluesky.

The two IPs haven't done anything image related - or, per se, wrong by itself - but the timing of their sudden appearance after the almost sole editor editing for months is strongly warned about something is a little hard to AGF about.

If it's Verybluesky trying to disassociate himself/herself from their account rather than cooperating on the copyright violation investigation then it needs to get nipped in the bud.

Thanks.

Georgewilliamherbert (talk) 20:27, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I can't link the any IPs with public accounts. However, the WHOIS for the two IPs show one is based in New Zealand and one is based in Slovenia, which certainly rules out any possibility they are the same (barring any shower curtain related technology). As for relation to Verybluesky, any action would need to be taken independent of checkuser data. I hope this helps and please let me know if you have questions. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  03:17, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Tony Gee and Partners page
Hi, a little over a year ago you deleted the page Tony Gee & Partners on the grounds (A7: No indication that the article may meet guidelines for inclusion).

Up front I should probably declare an interest - I am one of the owners (a partner) of the company.

At the time, I think the person trying to add the page did not really appreciate what Wikipedia is, and who or what he was dealing with.

I propose to recreate the page (though with a fractionally different name - the original creator didn't actually use our proper name). The reason I now believe that the page can be shown to meet the criteria for inclusion is that the company is referenced by seven existing wikipedia pages - World Highwire Championships, Blackfriars Railway Bridge, Prescott Channel, Falkirk Wheel, Westminster Bridge, Structural Awards, and Blackfriars station. In addition, there are other articles that refer to projects designed by the company though it is not named, such as Devon Expressway / A38 road (these refer to the same project).

The company is well regarded (certainly important, if not notable) in the construction industry, as is recognised by having been named 'Consultant of the Year' by ACE (business association for consultancy and engineering): http://www.nce.co.uk/tony-gee-scoops-nce-/-ace-medium-consultant-of-the-year/1995471.article

I wanted to see if you had comment before I go ahead...

Achrn (talk) 15:45, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, first of all, I would recommend you read these pages - what to do if you have a conflict of interest, how to write your first article, and what makes a company notable enough to warrant an article. After that, I would suggest writing the article in your userspace. This will allow you to write the article and ask other editors for suggestions. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  15:58, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

Ion Channel block
Hi, I just noticed that you blocked User:Ion Channel for having an inappropriate username. I'd like to suggest that you reconsider. I know that there is some sort of TV channel with that name, but, in this case, the user is clearly referring to ion channels, which is no more objectionable than a username like Protein or Electron or so forth. Perhaps your block might have been unintentionally bitey. --Tryptofish (talk) 19:04, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * You're right - I've replied there. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  19:11, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks! Cheers, --Tryptofish (talk) 19:13, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

WwB website and your deletions
I want to contact you to ask you why it is not allowed to write the stated goal of an organization and the people who are involved in it? I presume you have a problem with my referencing the home page, but that is obviously where you will find things like stated goal (NOT achievement - stated goal does not say that it has actually achieved what it sets out to do, and thus is not "advertising" or "promotional") and board members. Why is it unreasonable to inform people who is on the board?

I will now be re-editing the projects and SAVE sections of the website. I will be providing a summary of the projects run by the organization, and referencing each and every one of them with sources such as newspaper articles, other organizations' websites, documentaries made by the organization (as this is proof that they have actually carried out these projects) and thus I would kindly ask you not to delete this. I do not think it is unreasonable to inform people who want to read about the organization with a short summary of the projects carried out. ESPECIALLY if the existence of these projects is supported by online sources.

thank you.

Helenvictoriathompson (talk) 12:06, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Please note that Wikipedia is not a place to promote your organization. Wikipedia is written from a neutral point of view and supported by independent reliable sources. Self-published sources, such as company websites or company documentaries are inherently biased. Biased and promotional material will be removed. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  13:16, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

User:Joshinda26 block
I posted the following on User:HJ Mitchell's user talk page. I hope both of you will reconsider User:Joshinda26's block. His block appears, to me, to be collateral damage from allowing User:Alacante45 too much leeway. --184.99.172.218 (talk) 20:23, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

"I would like you to reconsider this user's block, although I initially agreed with your blocking both editors (User:Joshinda26 and User:Alacante45.

Joshinda26 is a relatively new editor. He's editing in an important area, although you might argue that all constructive edits on wikipedia are in an important area. User:Alacante45 is a subtle and antagonistic vandal. It is easy for a new editor to misunderstand policies, and when they are provoked and antagonized by someone hellbent on vandalism, and on provoking other editors, it does not serve the greater good of wikipedia to block someone for being the target of a disruptive vandal.

Please re-evaluate Joshinda26's block in light of his short time on wikipedia, his editing history, and the editing history of Alacante45. Heck, at this point, he/she looks like the flip side of Alacante45. Thanks, (signed)"

Regarding User talk:188.23.78.1
He still claims autoblock (see here), but isn't explaining why. Actually he is a self proclaimed vandal who I reported at AIV. It says he got blocked but the IP block log is empty. <font color="Brown">Momo san Gespräch 15:16, 5 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Managed to dig further and he is rangeblocked for a week, see block log. <font color="Brown">Momo san  Gespräch 15:22, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

Unblock request of Seleukosa
Hello Tnxman307. , whom you have blocked, is requesting to be unblocked. The request for unblock is on hold while waiting for a comment from you. I have looked at the evidence, and it does all seem to be circumstantial. In addition, the two accounts appear to be used by users with quite different grasp of English. Regards, JamesBWatson (talk) 11:31, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I reviewed MuZemike's findings and I agree with his determination. The two users mentioned in the SPI are the only ones with that specific user agent (this is out of many users who were active around the same times these two were). The geographic area fits as well. I'll leave it to the reviewing admin (which is you, I think) to make any determination about lifting the block. I blocked the account for two weeks (not indefinitely), if that makes any difference in your determination.  TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:55, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If I may comment here too (Seleukosa asked me to): I too find the evidence weak, and I am afraid the hullaballoo of the editors fighting on the case page has somehow obscured the issue and made the whole thing seem bigger than it was. The accusation was originally based on two things: a single edit by an IP to the article, which was very similar in style to Seleukosa's, and then, the next day, again a single edit by a new account on the talk page , which, in style, character, tone, and command of English, differed quite a bit from Seleukosa's. Now, S. has freely confirmed the IP was in fact him, and up to that point it's all unproblematic (a single accidental logged-out edit, easily recognizable as such, no sockpuppetry intention, routine stuff). But that leaves the alleged "similarity" with the other account very much hanging in the air. As for the geographical and IP coincidence, it should come as no surprise that a large proportion of our editors who are interested in Greek historical figures are located in Athens, and I personally know that a large proportion of these are on that particular IP range. A two-week punitive block for a coincidental spurious similarity in a single edit seems rather over the top to me. And btw, the CU finding only said the two accounts had the same user agent, but not that they were "the only ones" who had it. Fut.Perf. ☼ 12:58, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I wrote a reply to Tnxman307's comment above, but by the time I got as far as clicking "Save Page", I found an edit conflict, and Fut.Perf. had written a message that invalidated my reply. If these two really were the only ones using the same user agent then that is highly suggestive of a connection, though by no means a proof. Largely on that basis I had decided to substantially reduce the block length, but if they were only two of many using that user agent then I am back where I was before. On the whole I think all the other evidence is rather weak, and there is also some evidence which positively suggests that the two accounts are not the same user. I am inclined to unblock after all. JamesBWatson (talk) 13:09, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd certainly support that (but note I'm not speaking as an "uninvolved admin" here.) Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:16, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If it helps, allow me to clarify: those two users were the only ones with that user agent - I went back and reviewed the CU data. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  13:23, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ah, sorry, I didn't realize you are yourself a checkuser. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:26, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem. :) TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  13:27, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh well, perhaps I made the wrong decision then. JamesBWatson (talk) 14:15, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Mohamed Yehia Zakaria--This is NOT spam
Dear Mr.Tnxman307, I am wondering why you deleted my page? This is a person who pioneered the soft drink industry in the UAE, and it is not spam as was mentioned? this is true and i have placed the articles to prove it as references. Can you kindly revert the page dear sir, or if you need further clarification, i am more than happy to offer it to you. Or at least tell me how i can make this article better for Wikipedia? But why delete it, it took time to write. SO if you stillinsist ondeleting it at least give me the text so i can publish it somewhere else.

thank you and i look forward to your response. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Azny4644 (talk • contribs) 07:45, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but phrases like "a well renowned pioneer in the beverage industry and has been recognized the world over by his drive and enthusiasm in defining, and setting benchmarks" do not belong in a neutrally written encyclopedia. I would encourage you to read our information on writing your first article, why Wikipedia does not allow advertising, and how to use independent reliable sources to support your article. You should write a draft of the article in your userspace (something like User:Azny4644/Sandbox) - this will allow you to work on the article without worrying about deletion. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:44, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your reply...can you help me in editing my page i currently have up? its a bit difficult for me to do. I would really appreciate your assistance the matter. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Azny4644 (talk • contribs) 15:55, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

William R. Moses is not insignificant
Why was his page deleted? He's been in a number of movies including Mystic Pizza, and had a leading role in the TV show Falcon Crest as well as co-starring in a number of Perry Mason TV movies. Deviny (talk) 00:14, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi I'm assuming that you didn't spot that the CSD tag was added by a vandal who nearly blanked the page. So as you are off at the moment I've restored it and reverted to the pre vandal version. Hope that's OK  Ϣere  Spiel  Chequers  13:51, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Not a problem at all. Thanks, WereSpielChequers! TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  21:01, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
 * You're welcome. Enjoy your break.  Ϣere  Spiel  Chequers  13:08, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

Mitchell Davis
Why did u delete mitchell davis??? what did he ever do to u???

If you have a problem my youtube name is cutegirl155 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.11.173.79 (talk) 01:16, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Question on Checkuser
Hi Tnxman,

I was wondering how comprehensive a Checkuser investigation is?

You recently ran a checkuser on User:Erfurt150, and some of the usernames you turned up were on my list (I mentioned it on the SPI page) of suspected sockpuppets of User:Sleeping water, but there were seven more on my list that the investigation did not turn up.

Does this mean that these others are definitely not socks of that user? Thanks. Gabhala (talk) 15:03, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Those were all the ones I saw, but that does not mean those are the only ones. If you have more users you suspect, please let me know here or post again on the SPI page. You should also note that there is a limited time frame for which checkuser data is retained. Accounts that have not edited in a while may not show up. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  16:01, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * The other usernames I suspect are: Highlandist, Yankeewave, Foresthunter, Elgor007 (Blocked indefinitely), Elgor008, Earth owner and due to some slightly odd interactions with other suspected accounts, I think that El Besto might also be a puppet of Sleeping water/Erfurt150.


 * It also appears that the blocked accounts Hipalo, Desertscorpio and Sillydwarf might also have been part of the sock collection.


 * Thanks. Gabhala (talk) 16:28, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the info. I did some more investigating and blocked more accounts. For future reference, be sure to mention all of the accounts at the beginning, so we can investigate thoroughly. Cheers! TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  17:04, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * OK. Sorry - but I wasn't 100% sure that the two events were actually related, and didn't want to confuse the issue at hand.  I've never been involved in anything like this before.  I'll know better in future...  Gabhala (talk) 17:18, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * At the risk of annoying you... there might be another one, User:Neverendtop, based on his interaction with User:Sleeping water. Thanks, Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 17:23, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm furiously annoyed! (Just kidding.) That also turned up some more matches, which I've blocked accordingly. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  17:25, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Then you're going to love this... I had some doubt regarding another user, User:Dogfish Jim and the Dixoap, because his editing pattern was different from the other socks, but as he was an account set up to impersonate me and there is another that did that on the list of socks, it might be worth confirming... Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 19:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Also, are you interested in IP editors? User:90.14.9.208 appears to be the same person.
 * Again, apologies for the piece-meal way these have been presented, the Sock investigation was kind of sprung before the evidence was fully compiled. Catfish Jim and the soapdish (talk) 19:24, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Nah, it's no problem. The impersonator account is another sock, but didn't turn up anything else. IP data is useful, however, checkusers are not allowed to publicly link IP data with named accounts (it's a privacy policy issue). TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:42, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Paragan the article...
Hi Tnxman, This is regarding deletion of the article "Paragana". "Paragana" is a notable college festival. The article on it was part of my initiative of updating wiki with all notable college festivals. Moreover, there was not talk on creator page about the deletion article. Which is norm before deleting any article. The page should be restored. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ankurbhardwaj24 (talk • contribs) 10:35, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but the article cited no sources and was an advertisement for the festival. Material like "media partners" (with a list of logos) should not be included in a neutral encyclopedia. You may want to read our guide to writing your first article. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:41, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

Aqua Data Studio
I have removed the prod tag from Aqua Data Studio, which you proposed for deletion. I'm leaving this message here to notify you about it. If you still think the article should be deleted, please don't add the prod template back to the article. Instead, feel free to list it at Articles for deletion. Thanks! VER Tott  11:32, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

ARBSCI block
Hello Tnxman307, I hope you are doing well. :) Thank you for taking action with regard to Sockpuppet investigations/Shutterbug. If you carried out a checkuserblock or rangeblock on an IP related to banned User:Shutterbug, can you please note it under log of blocks and bans at WP:ARBSCI? Thank you for your time, -- Cirt (talk) 21:50, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm. I only carried out the check - I try to separate the "checking" part of SPI cases from the "patrolling" (blocking/tagging) piece. I think Tiptoety blocked the accounts (I did not place any rangeblocks). Does he need to log it or can anyone do so? TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  22:06, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Anyone can do so. Per the ArbCom remedy on this, can you please rangeblock the underlying IPs? -- Cirt (talk) 22:08, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, hang on. This is my first foray into arbitration enforcement and I'd like to be sure I understand everything. I'll log the SPI results at the noticeboard, but am uncomfortable putting in place any rangeblocks (especially if they are to be "treated as an open proxy", which usually entails a block of a year or more). I'd like a second opinion from another checkuser or a member of Arbcom before taking that step. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  22:25, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If you look under log of blocks and bans for the IP remedy section, you can see this was previously carried out, by Checkuser Brandon. -- Cirt (talk) 22:30, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * But these IPs are pretty public addresses (one of which is a large university) and almost all of the ones used have useful, non-related contributions. Like I mentioned, I'd feel better about this if another functionary more familiar with enforcement took a look. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  22:46, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Understood. Perhaps you could get in touch with Brandon? -- Cirt (talk) 22:52, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll post an email to the functionaries list asking for someone to review this. Cheers! TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  01:10, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Okay, thank you. -- Cirt (talk) 02:43, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Spam-blacklist
I moved an entry that you added to MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist from the proposed removals section to the proposed additions section, because I'm guessing that's what you intended. Revert me if I'm wrong. Deli nk (talk) 16:29, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Nope, that's definitely right. Thanks! TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  16:33, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
 * It's a good idea to request blacklisting. Thanks for your help.  If you're interested, there's also an ongoing related AFD: Articles for deletion/Mulberry Chemicals.  Deli nk (talk) 16:36, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Thanks for that. Is there anyway of reporting socks with twinkle that doesn't make separate headers? Smartse (talk) 17:07, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Not that I know of. When I filed cases, I used the pre-filled out form from the main SPI page. Twinkle's a great tool, but it can have issues with SPI cases and AfDs. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  17:23, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Ok, for future reference, does the form on the SPI page automatically recognise if an SPI has been launched before (as in this case)? Smartse (talk) 18:57, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Yup. It takes care that too. It was a lifesaver for me. :) TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  19:05, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

IP versus Kintetsubuffalo
Hi there.

I have to say that I feel your blocking of 76.19.251.152 is a bit harsh without commenting on Kintetsu as well. Whilst the majority of the IP edits were of dubious grammar, I feel that there was plenty more road to be travelled before a block should be carried out - whilst I agree that I would have also reverted the ip edits (as in fact I did) I think that a comment explaining why they have been reverted and what procedures are to be followed would have been better, instead of jumping in straight away as Kintetsu did with a level 4 warning, and this comment at RFC.

Of course, whether the IP editor feels as strongly I can't say, but I think they have been treated a bit unfairly there. The edits are generally good faith, just badly put.

a_man_alone (talk) 18:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Looking at their contributions, I see a lot of edit warring and original research, especially at Allied characters of Command & Conquer and Uniform fetishism. I have not looked at Kintetsu's edits and am certainly open to another admin reviewing the block of the IP. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  18:07, 21 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Very true - but nobody has pointed out the error of their ways until now. Obviously I'm not admin, and this is kind of a enw thing for me - sticking up for somebody - how do I/we go about requesting another admin to look into it?
 * Frankly, I'm not that concerned if the block stays - it's only 31 hours, but if the block stays, I think Kintetsu needs to be spoken to as well.  a_man_alone (talk) 18:24, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, the easiest way is just drop a note on another admin's talk page. Also, I think it's pretty clear the same person has been behind this IP for a while and if so, there have been notes left for them in the past, but they blanked the page. Granted, it was a couple of months ago, but there was a note left. I think another step you could take is to raise your concerns on Kintetsu's talk page (you can point him here as well). TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  18:28, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Foreclosuregate
I noticed you deleted the foreclosuregate article, because it was written by a sock-puppet. I wanted to let you know that I will be re-creating the article as a redirect to the 2010 United States foreclosure crisis article. Rest assured that I am no puppet. Thanks! CoolMike (talk) 21:51, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Who says you're no sockpuppet? (Just kidding) That's fine, let me know if anything else comes up. Karmaisking has been causing problems around economics subjects for a while now. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  22:15, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Socking message
Can you please expand on the message you left here? I'm a bit confused because if it's the actual accounts, they were all indefinitely blocked, most for sockpuppeting, which means they haven't edited since. IP addresses can, and do, change. That's why I'm confused on the "stale" part of your comment. I'm also confused as to the "I have nothing to which I can compare this account", as the entire reason I was tipped off, and subsequently asked for help from MRG, was because of the nearly identical editing style and focus with the previous indeffed accounts. I'd just appreciate a little clarification as there's a lot about socking that I don't understand (and why I asked MRG for help in the first place). Thank you for any help you can offer. --132 04:06, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * If it has to the CheckUser request then I totally understand. If it's just a normal judgement though, I would like clarification if you can give it. :) --132 06:06, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia only keeps technical information about accounts (IP data, useragents) for a certain length of time. If an account has no activity after a few months, it's stale, and I can't compare its technical data with new accounts. MuZemike's comment on the case is correct, though: behavioral evidence can still be used to draw connections between the accounts. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  11:47, 22 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Ok, I understand now. Thanks so much for the clarification! :) --132 13:50, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

ANI discussion.
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Quick checkuser please
See User talk:Timotheus Canens. Thanks. T. Canens (talk) 15:46, 22 October 2010 (UTC)

Sulmues
Could you check the message he left on his new talkpage and assist him, since it seems that he can't access his old account anymore.-- — ZjarriRrethues — talk 17:21, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Replied there. TN <b style="color:midnightblue; font-size:larger;">X</b> Man  17:27, 22 October 2010 (UTC)