User talk:Toa Nidhiki05/Sandbox/Quarterback

Formatting
So, I think we've got a good idea as to format here. So far, I think we cam start with: Once we have the format set, we can get to work.  Toa   Nidhiki05  23:39, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Overview
 * Cover the basics of the position and modern role (ie. where the quarterback is located on the field, allowed numbers, role as leader of the offense, throws the ball, etc.)
 * History
 * Comprehensive overview of the evolution of the quarterback position from a blocker to the offense's leader. Note the role of the T-formation in this shift.
 * Make sure to note the role's evolution in both American and Canadian football
 * Trends and other roles
 * Note the increasing popularity of 'dual-threat' quarterbacks, the increase in passer accuracy, etc.
 * Explain the role of the quarterback in unorthodox systems and plays like the two-quarterback system and the wildcat formation, as well as the quarterback's role as a holder for kicks.
 * Seems right to me. The part about trends and other roles seems pretty important...but how do they fit in the organization? I'm just thinking off the top of my head, but it seems to me we're talking about a couple different things. First, you have things like the quarterback's role in unorthodox systems that are in current use and stuff like being a holder on kicks. It seems to me that this could fit okay at the end of the Overview section (maybe as subsections, depending), where you're describing and defining what a quarterback does today. Then you have the question of trends – the trends in current use could fit under Overview, while those that are part of football history (like triple-threat quarterbacks) could be relegated to the History section. Or, on the other hand, we could have separate main sections for some of these things. To me, none of them seems like it's on the same organizational level as Overview or History, so maybe some sort of catch-all is in order, like you're describing. I've found some other potential sources (there's a whole chapter on the history of the quarterback in Total Football II, for example) but I don't have a copy to hand at the moment. I'm thinking I'm going to start working on the history section in the mainspace. Further ideas about organization might suggest themselves by simply trying to make the article text itself better. --Batard0 (talk) 17:52, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Catch-all might be the only option at the moment, unless we can devise more ideas for section headers. For what should be an article of decent length, just having two main headers (Definition and History) seems a bit short and that may run into some problems at GAN or FAC. On the other hand, like you suggest, 'Trends' could easily fit into a subsection of 'History', and 'other roles' could possibly fit in the 'definition' section. Maybe we should work on content a little bit and see how that goes before making decisions on headers and subheaders?
 * If you want to work on the 'History' section, I'll be more than happy to work on the 'Definition' one. That way we can get this ready a bit faster. :)  Toa   Nidhiki05  18:13, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Good with me – I'll start working on the history part. --Batard0 (talk) 04:25, 29 July 2013 (UTC)

Logistics
The overview looks really good – I'd say just transport it to the mainspace. I'm beginning to do some editing on the history section, but I'm going to do it in the mainspace. I think it's going to take some time to gather all the necessary sources, including ones that address possible differences with Canadian football. Hopefully it won't be too messy... --Batard0 (talk) 17:51, 1 August 2013 (UTC)