User talk:Tobias2321

Regarding Vabo's center
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. Zyazikov's book doesn't mention that Ärzi was the capital of Vabo so I think the best is to remove it and leave Metskhal. WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 19:10, 4 February 2023 (UTC)


 * Zyazikov's words: "культурный центр веппинцев находился в столице горного ингушского Мецхальского общества — селении Аьрзи (Эрзи)." - ТРАДИЦИОННАЯ КУЛЬТУРА ИНГУШЕЙ: ИСТОРИЯ И СОВРЕМЕННОСТЬ Tobias2321 (talk) 19:38, 4 February 2023 (UTC)

I think you forgot to mention that the Aukh fyappiy considered Erzi as their center Причем такие сведения предоставляли ученым сами ингуши, ибо культурный центр аккинцев-веппинцев находился в столице горного ингушского Мецхальского общества — селении Аьрзи (Эрзи). It's not the fyappiy in Ingushetia that considered Erzi as their center. WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 11:09, 6 February 2023 (UTC)

I found it, thanks. WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 21:14, 4 February 2023 (UTC)


 * With reference to: "Brockhaus and Efron Encyclopedic Dictionary: Volume XIII (25)". p. 58.: This text states that the Kist society is currently called the Metskhal society - not that Metskhal is the centre of the society. The name Metskhal came about, if I remember correctly, because the Russian government had a base in Metskhal. The name Metskhal Society has no historical value. If we compare the history, size, strength, historical significance and mentions of Arzi and Metskhal, it is very clear that Arzi was the centre of the society. Tobias2321 (talk) 14:22, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Tobias2321 it looks to me that Zyazikov wrote that out of air. The Fäppin society was even called at one point Metskhalin society but never Erzin society or anything like that. It would make sense that the center was Metskhal. With due all the respect but Zyazikov took that out of air, sure Erzi was very big settlement and very important but probably not the center.WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 13:27, 5 February 2023 (UTC)

Antropology
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuh. You added this text:, but are you sure that's not generally speaking of Ingush people? Indeed Kists term was used for Fyappins at one point but I just wanna make sure, hope you understand. WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 20:49, 10 February 2023 (UTC)


 * I'm very sure of that, since the description of the Kist people is followed by a description of the Ingush people that differs significantly. In particular, the author states that the Kist people in the mountains were ruled by elders and princes, while the Ingush people had no nobility and lived only under elders.
 * "The Ingush are brave, honest, and freedom-loving people, who have a characteristic facial structure and such a harsh speech that one believes they have stones in their mouths. (...) ruled not by nobility but by elders." Tobias2321 (talk) 21:19, 10 February 2023 (UTC)

Oh okay, thank you. WikiEditor1234567123 (talk) 21:45, 10 February 2023 (UTC)