User talk:TobusRex

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Proposed deletion of Troy Nickerson


The article Troy Nickerson has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Referencing for beginners or ask at Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the prod blp tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can when you are ready to add one. VQuakr (talk) 04:04, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * As I explained on my user talkpage, I deleted the article out of concerns for overall notability, which is a speedy deletion rationale, rather than for references. I've placed it in a sandbox at User:TobusRex/sandbox; you should review the notability criteria for athletes I've noted in my reply to you, as it does not appear that the subject meets them.   Acroterion  (talk)  04:40, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

Please review this link. http://www.wrestlingstats.com/aa/view_wrestlers.php?wrestler=14051&first=2006&last=2009. You will note that Troy Nickerson was 1st place in the 2009 NCAA Wrestling Tournament, aka "National Champion", which meets Wiki standards of notability. Perhaps I should've stated outright that he was 2009 National Champion rather than assuming a person would know that someone who won 1st place at the NCAA Tournament was National Champion. Frankly, I'm done with it. If you want Wiki linking to blank pages, thats fine with me.

Speedy deletion nomination of Troy Nickerson
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Nomination of Troy Nickerson for deletion
A discussion has begun about whether the article Troy Nickerson, which you created or to which you contributed, should be deleted. While contributions are welcome, an article may be deleted if it is inconsistent with Wikipedia policies and guidelines for inclusion, explained in the deletion policy.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Troy Nickerson until a consensus is reached, and you are welcome to contribute to the discussion.

You may edit the article during the discussion, including to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.  Acroterion  (talk)  15:36, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I've gone ahead and closed the AfD as a keep and withdrawn the nomination. After returning to the article, I agree that it meets the notability guideline.  Sorry for the inconvenience, happy editing!   Acroterion  (talk)  19:14, 26 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Thanks for closing the AfD. The problem was with the way my article was written --TobusRex (talk) 05:52, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

September 2010
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Sept 2010
Thanks for the tip on signing VQakr. I'm pretty new to the ways of this site. --TobusRex (talk) 04:48, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Sure thing. If you are interested in learning more about writing on Wiki, you could check out the tutorial. VQuakr (talk) 09:25, 26 September 2010 (UTC)

Heisman Trophy
I realize you are new to Wikipedia and unfamiliar with our protocol. Please keep in mind that wikipedia is not a forum WP:FORUM and not a place for original research WP:OR. This seems to be a pattern with your AfD-ed article noms. Also remember WP:CIVIL and WP:AGF; while those are not core principles, they will help you in dealing with admins. Guiltlessgecko (talk) 13:57, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

Football NCs
Hi TR - I saw your comment about NDs claims of national title in football and replied to you on that page, but you're likelier to see it if I cross-post it here, which I am taking the liberty of doing:


 * The claim of 13 National Championships in football is patently ludicrous. ND has won 7 NCAA championships in football. The AP has only awarded National Titles in football since 1936. The "other" titles were awarded way after the fact by computers. Also a doublestandard exists in this regard...why is it that every "title" ND has been awarded, legitimate and phony computer title, is counted towards the total, whereas with other teams (Oklahoma and Southern California for example) only the AP/UPI titles are counted? I submit that the number be reduced to the ACTUAL number of NCAA titles ND has won...7. The alternative is to update the numbers for other teams that only have the AP/UPI counted. --TobusRex (talk) 15:27, 2 March 2011 (UTC)


 * Hello TR - This is a major can of worms across the whole sports world - NCs in general, not ND specifically. Your basic premise, though, isn't correct. Alabama, for example, claims 13 NCs and USC 10 (had been 11 before vacating the 2004 debacle). For SC, look at the Wiki here USC Claimed Titles and SC Athletic Department Page. I have never seen a university athletics page of the scores I have researched that restrict their NC claims to AP, which started in the 1930s. The topic is well-covered in the Wikipedia article about it hereCollege_football_national_championships_in_NCAA_Division_I_FBS.

Additionally, you might want to take a look at Alabama's Crimson Tide football page here on Wiki and their official athletic site. You may well have a point about recognizing only post-1935 wire service champions, but even the NCAA permits championship claims before then - when I find the link to their page (which actually lists Notre Dame in 19 different seasons, exceeded only by Yale's 23), I'll post it. I was also going to post a link to the College Football Data Warehouse, which treats the topic extensively as well - CFB Data Warehouse. regards, Sensei48 (talk) 02:12, 24 July 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the input. I'll update the current number of recognized championships by year from data provided at the college football data warehouse for my favorite team. TobusRex (talk) 08:28, 8 October 2011 (UTC)