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G11
You removed the speedy deletion tag from Carrier Air Conditioner move to Mexico. You stated that WP:G11 does not apply. However, G11 notes that ""promotion" does not necessarily mean commercial promotion: anything can be promoted, including...a point of view, etc" AusLondonder (talk) 08:43, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

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--Neil N  talk to me 21:41, 23 July 2016 (UTC)

Edits over at Geisha
Hiya - just thought I'd pop in to say. I get that the link I'd previously written as "sex workers" goes to prostitution, and I understand your point about the text being consistent.

However, though there's never been a consensus discussion about the issue on Wikipedia itself, I'm quite mindful of the fact that a fair few sex work activists, charities and outreach programmes pretty pointedly use the term "sex worker" over "prostitute", as a more neutral description of a person's job and industry, as the term "prostitute" has some pretty heavy implications for a person's morality and also pretty much doubles as an insult. (You can kinda see how "you're a sex worker!" doesn't hold nearly the same impact as ""you're a prostitute!". One is a description; the other is linked to longstanding connotations of low morality and a general degradation of character.)

Seeing as we try and present a morally neutral angle at Wikipedia, I'd say that "sex worker" is the far better option. It's not always possible to avoid using "prostitute", but where it's unnecessary to use, it's better to ask ourselves what language we're using and the implications of it. Geisha and sex work are also a very touchy subject; it's generally better to keep to the most neutral language possible, as it soon turns into a bit of a prodded hornet's nest if one isn't careful.

Obviously, since there's no consensus for it, I can't exactly strongarm you into keeping it as it was. However, I would strongly advise you to revert your edit back to "sex worker". As someone who's studied geisha as a subject for a number of years relatively closely, and as someone with close friends who are sex workers, I'd very much appreciate your cooperation on this issue. Thanks! --Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) 16:24, 21 September 2020 (UTC)

German Military Cemetery Rovaniemi Norvajärvi moved to draftspace
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 * Hi MPGuy2824 - My bad! I had sources lined up but forgot to include them. Please check out the fixed draft at your convenience. --TocMan (talk) 04:06, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
 * The second source is better than the first. I'd suggest that you find a few more reliable sources which cover the subject in depth, and then go through the AFC process. -MPGuy2824 (talk) 05:35, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

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