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Speedy deletion of Today's youth
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Threw out the ages young people where and are criticized by elders.Examples survive from ancient Greeks and Egyptians.

The children now love luxury; they have bad manners,contempt for authority; they allow disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children now are tyrants,not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents,chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.--Socrates (469 / 471 BC–399 BC)

In all actuality, this and similar quotes probably did not originate with Socrates, however, they do make for illustrative views on the generation gap as perceived today. Justin Eiler (talk) 11:57, 21 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually, it is not attributed to Socrates by Plato--that claim was made in a 1953 book, but the closest quote is from Plato's Republic, book 4:


 * I mean such things as these: — when the young are to be silent before their elders; how they are to show respect to them by standing and making them sit; what honour is due to parents; what garments or shoes are to be worn; the mode of dressing the hair; deportment and manners in general.--Socrates, as quoted by Plato.


 * You can read the original here, though I don't much care for the Google Books interface. Hope that helps! Justin Eiler (talk) 12:16, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Removed speedy tag
Hi, TY. With the changes you've made, I went ahead and removed the speedy tag (and the hangon tag). Have a great day! Justin Eiler (talk) 12:45, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Today's youth
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