User talk:Toleco

If you want to work on poorly-written articles...
Take a look at Category:All articles needing copy edit and look at the article histories. Chances are VERY high that you will see a multitude of minor edits that introduce grammar errors, make inappropriate changes from one variety of English to another one, "fix" grammar errors in quoted text or book titles, or change the meaning of a sentence by adding seemingly-innocuous commas. This happens when well-meaning native speakers use Grammarly to flag issues, and accept the suggestions without changing, and it happens a lot. Blind use of grammar tools is one of the worst issues at Wikipedia currently. More eyes on this would be extremely valuable. Regards, --bonadea contributions talk 10:14, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I don't want to work on poorly-written articles. I want to work on a high-quality encyclopaedia. Incompetent native speakers certainly also cause problems, but the fact that the majority of articles contain errors characteristic of non-native speakers shows that this particular brand of incompetence has catastrophically undermined the quality of English Wikipedia. I find it frankly disgusting that people who don't speak English have screwed up an English-language encyclopaedia on such a massive scale. Toleco (talk) 11:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

Uncivil and nonconstructive behavior.
I would like to give you feedback on your Wikipedia edit summaries and a formal warning about civility from the Wikipedia community. This past week, you've made edits with summaries that are WP:UNCIVIL, WP:BITE newbies (despite being one yourself) and have a WP:BATTLEGROUND mentality.
 * trimmed, and fixed the appallingly lazy use of ampersands.
 * improved extremely poor quality text, including hopeless grammar obviously added by Spanish-speakers
 * This is English Wikipedia. Do not use Spanish abbreviations
 * This is not even correct. While Wikipedia article titles should generally use roman characters, we do not have a requirement for names or acronyms, so if a foreign acronym is widely used per WP:COMMONNAME we'll use that. Shushugah (talk) 10:33, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Someone grossly misunderstood the plot

I recognize you're new, so I am giving you leeway, but I highly recommend you adjust your behavior, and or stay away from content editing if you cannot be civil. Shushugah (talk) 10:25, 15 March 2021 (UTC)


 * If you are here to build a high-quality encyclopaedia, you'll understand the necessity of fixing poor-quality material and pointing out that it was poor quality. The edit summaries you have quoted here were not remotely uncivil. You are happy to issue "formal" warnings to me, but not for me to criticise the quality of substandard edits. Do you think that English Wikipedia should be a high-quality reference work? Toleco (talk) 11:37, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
 * And the word General, by the way, cannot ever be abbreviated as "Gral" in English. If I went to Spanish Wikipedia and wrote using abbreviations that are simply not used in Spanish, I would expect to be criticised for it. If I did such a thing, I would be undermining the integrity of Spanish Wikipedia, just as the editor who used a Spanish convention that does not exist in English undermined the integrity of English Wikipedia. Toleco (talk) 11:44, 15 March 2021 (UTC)

This account is blocked
Per Long-term abuse: WP:LTA/BKFIP, blocked by. Shushugah (talk) 14:09, 15 March 2021 (UTC)