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Elm accessions
I doubt there is a Wiki convention on Accessions, a category I unilaterally introduced some years ago when beginning the elm series. Certainly, I only include living specimens, but can't vouch for others, though I do allow deceased specimens under 'Notable trees'. The Romney Gardens elm was cited in Owen Johnson's (owen@ojohnson.freeserve.co.uk) 'Champions' book and, based on previous correspondence and acquaintance, I doubt if he would have allowed its inclusion if he wasn't sure of its identity. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 15:41, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Ulmus glabra 'Fastigiata'
Hello Tom elm,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Ulmus glabra 'Fastigiata' for deletion, because it seems to be a test. Did you know that the Wikipedia Sandbox is available for testing out edits?

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. MarkYabloko ''' 08:59, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

Wych elm reference to Loch Lomond
Dear Tom Elm, I originally quoted Richens on this one, but eventually deferred to a Gaelic expert, who wrote: "sorry, it has a ref, but it's rubbish, the place name is obscure, it's not even 'Lac Leaman' but 'Loch Laomainn'". Richens wasn't infallible, it seems. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 21:43, 1 April 2016 (UTC)


 * Hi Ptelea, I have toned down the ref to Loch Lomond, please feel free to remove if you feel it has no place here. Thanks, Tom elm (talk) 08:41, 4 April 2016 (UTC)

Category:Commercially available Elms
The category Category:Commercially available Elms has been nominated for merging. Please see the discussion at Categories for discussion/Log/2016 April 23. – Fayenatic  L ondon 11:44, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Category Ulmus
I'd overlooked this one. Yes, by all means create it. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 15:12, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Dauvessei Elm
Dear Tom Don't know what happened there. I hadn't intended to undo your edit, rather update the link to the Brighton elm collection, which still lists Dauvessei. PB strikes again. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 10:07, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Disputed non-free use rationale for File:F L Lucas, River Flows - wrapper.jpg
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 * Thank you for the message. Perhaps you could advise please what I may need to do to ensure this image stays on Wikipedia. I perhaps misunderstood non-free use rationale. Any help you are able to give would be gratefully received. Many thanks, Tom_elmtalk 11:01, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
 * We don't normally include an image of a book cover in an article about the author (only in an article about the book). The design of the cover itself would have to be the subject of commentary in the article (see for example The Clash), where the design of the cover of London Calling is discussed in some detail. — Diannaa 🍁 (talk) 12:53, 26 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your reply.. that makes sense. I will contact the main editor of the page in question. All the best, Tom_elmtalk 12:55, 26 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Thanks, both. I've added to the Lucas page a reason for the inclusion of the book cover image (the cover was unknown even to the Hogarth Press researchers who wrote a book on the early Hogarth publications). The book itself is discussed in the Biographical section below, as a semi-autobiographical novel. Regards, 193.39.159.73. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.39.159.73 (talk) 15:39, 26 October 2016 (UTC)

Umbraculifera gracilis
Dear Tom, There are contradictions here. It is stated there is only one known surviving specimen, in the USA, but the cultivar box shows a tree surviving at RBGE, even though this is titled aff. Plotii. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 15:21, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Thank you, I will email the editor that made the change you are referring to. Best, Tom_elmtalk 16:36, 18 November 2016 (UTC)


 * Hello both. Yes, the page needs updating. RBGE have confirmed that our aff. Plotii are Umbrac Gracilis (see RBGE Living Collection site) - so we have three more mature Gracilis survivors. - Regards, Ftelia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.39.159.73 (talk) 16:48, 18 November 2016 (UTC)

Ulmus glabra 'Rugosa'
Dear Tom This article has become very muddled. We seem to be describing two cultivars in tandem. If campestris 'R' is indeed being treated as a synonym of glabra 'R', we need to say so, if not, then start another page for it. Or simply play safe and sink both as of indeterminate origin: U. 'Rugosa''? Regards,Ptelea (talk) 14:50, 28 November 2016 (UTC)

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Elm lists
Yes, in agreement, too many lists. The rather arbitrary classification by habitat, 'mountain elms' etc, should certainly go, as should the separate list of common names. Of more immediate concern is the attempt to delete pages based on Notability, or apparent lack of, which is such a subjective area, and evidently attracting the attentions of those for whom the elm is matter of indifference, vide the recent correspondence on the recently released 'JFS Prince II' =, threatening to derail the whole project. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 16:41, 14 March 2017 (UTC)

Ulmus minor 'Viminalis Pulverulenta'
Feel rather uneasy about this one; is there precedent? The Morton cultivar Ulmus 'Morton' = ACCOLADE is similarly a hybrid of two types of a species, in this case Japanese elm: ''U. dav. var. jap. and what was once U. wilsoniana'' before it was sunk as Japanese Elm, but the specific epithet is forfeit. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 10:24, 6 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Thank you for the message. Not sure I accept the notion of two types of species (in the case of U. minor we either have undifferentiated or a cultivar, they're both U. minor). How would we account for any cultivar of U. glabra or for that matter, say, U. minor 'Christine Buisman' itself raised from a batch of 390 seedlings? Best, Tom_elmtalk 10:42, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

'Viminalis Pulverulenta' at Cambridge
Regret at 10 years' distance, no chance. It wouldn't have been CBG as they were always conspicuously unhelpful. The fact it was then a current intelligence suggests either a perscomm. (unlikely as I never had any interest in the tree) or a contemporary book. OJ's 2003 Champion Trees seems the only candidate; unfortunately I no longer have access to a copy to confirm. The 2011 edition only mentions the Brighton specimen. Sorry I can't be more help. Regards, Ptelea (talk) 11:27, 6 July 2017 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Twiggy field elm cultivar


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Edinburgh elm cultivars
Tom. I've been rooting many of the putatively claimed Edinburgh elm cultivars. I've rooted the cuttings in water. Some of them have already been potted up. I do have a lot of them. 86.140.252.236 (talk) 22:09, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I have only just seen this message. I have had a long break from Wikipedia. Please can you create an account with a valid email address and send me a message by clicking here? Thank you. Tom_elmtalk 13:37, 20 January 2022 (UTC)

Nomination of Gerald Wilkinson for deletion
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