User talk:Tomas e/Archive 2011-2012

Help with GAN review
Hello again! You've helped me with the Malmö FF article in the past. Now I have done both a peer review and copyediting by another wikipedian. Therefore I have now nominated it for GA status. I don't know if you are familiar with GAN reviews? If you are, I would very much appreciate if you could once again help me. If you look at Good article nominations you will see that some articles have been waiting for a review for up to 2-3 months. Therefore I thought of the idea to instead of wait contact someone who could do the review and because you have helped me with the article before and because you are a member of Wikiproject Sweden I thought of you first. Reply here or on my talk page if you are interested. Thank You!--Reckless182 (talk) 15:50, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look, but in a couple of days. Tomas e (talk) 16:19, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks man! Happy holidays!--Reckless182 (talk) 16:44, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Hi again, sorry if I give the impression of being impatient. I'm just wondering if yuu've had the time to look at the article and if you still are interested in writing the GAN review? If you're not I'll find someone else to do it, I'm just wondering since I havn't heard from you in a while. Thanks!--Reckless182 (talk) 21:02, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, fair enough, I had actually hoped to do it a week or so ago, but didn't get around to it - sorry about that. If I haven't found time by Sunday (two days time from now) I'll notify you. Tomas e (talk) 12:52, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thats OK, thanks!--Reckless182 (talk) 12:55, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I have responded with some comments to your review. See Talk:Malmö FF/GA1.--Reckless182 (talk) 23:36, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot for your help with the GAN! Very much appreciate it!--Reckless182 (talk) 21:53, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, it was obvious that a lot of effort went into it - I'm particularly impressed with the "web" of other article created around it, and linked to it. The previous work of the peer reviewer and copyeditor also made it a much easier task. Tomas e (talk) 22:31, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

re:Removal of ratings
I'm not too sure about how the GAN will go, but the article will need to re-rated in any case. While I am fine leaving as it is if that is what you would like, I felt it misleading to leave a rating in that was not longer reflective of the article's standard. I realise now that proper procedure would have been to list the article here, but even in hindsight that would seem awkward given the article's GA nomination. I do this not to challenge your thoughts, but rather to absolve myself of any ulterior motive. Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 17:22, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
 * No problems at all! I understand how you were thinking, but I took a little exception for the simple reason that I try to avoid having unassessed articles for WPSweden. There have been some rare instances of actuals vandalism, where assessments or project templates are deleted, which is why reassessments to "non-assessed" always gets my attention. (Perhaps I didn't explain this in full on your talk page.) For an article that is accepted as GA, you actually don't have to list it separately on the assessment pages of all projects; a GA rating following a review is applied to all projects (at least in all cases I've seen). The project page is more for getting help on lower level, the way I see it. Regards, Tomas e (talk) 12:47, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Lanson International and stubs
My apologizes Tomas. I was going on another stub-killing spree when I came across Lanson International and the related stubs. Seeing three potential stub kills, I went ahead and WP:BOLDly merged this. It wasn't until after I did every that I saw the comments from you and Murgh opposing a merger idea. I explain my reasoning on the page but, again, if either your or Murgh feel that strongly that they should stay separate stubs then I have no objections to be reverted, just as you did with Carignan blanc. My main contention is that the reader is benefited more by articles with fuller context then with isolated stubs and I really didn't see much hope for expansion. AgneCheese/Wine 02:00, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look in the next couple of days or so. It's a bit tricky to describe the corporate structure behind Champagne houses and other major wine brands, when there has been changes over time and there's not a simple 1:1 relationship between holding companies and houses. If I remember right, there has also been subsequent name changes. Tomas e (talk) 11:01, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia Ambassador Program is looking for new Online Ambassadors
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Helena van Schantz
I was out of the country and therefore not able to respond to and contest this. Michael Goodyear 17:45, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

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Bengt Frithiofsson
Hey Tomas! While searching Flickr for Italian wine photos, I stumbled upon this lovely free-use image of Swedish wine writer Bengt Frithiofsson. While I've heard of him, I don't have any worthwhile sources to write an article on him. He seems to be notable (and already has redlinks at Kändisdjungeln and Robins (SVT2)) so if you ever get the hanker to write a bio on him, we have an illustration waiting. :) AgneCheese/Wine 00:57, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot, I added it to sv:Bengt Frithiofsson. (From which I once edited out the claim that he is a "wine designer"...) He's quite well-known nationally, because of frequent TV appearances over quite a number of years now. His short clips with pictures and enthusiastic commentary of various wine regions have been quite good for giving some people basic knowledge of wine, and he started out writing on wine for one of Sweden's larger morning newspaper (Svenska Dagbladet) in the 1980s or so. But it is his reviews and (over)enthusiastic recommendations (including of wines of quite modest quality IMHO...) that are famous. Since it seems he has been drinking a lot of the stuff he reviews just before he's on camera, he is seen as pure entertainment by many, and he's popular to make fun of. Some people have made "remixes" of his reviews on Youtube, for example. :-) That's why his name appears on the list of participants of those entertainment-oriented TV shows you mentioned above. Tomas e (talk) 09:45, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Hmm, looks like someone created the Bengt Frithiofsson. Perhaps a talk page watcher of yours? :) AgneCheese/Wine 06:09, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
 * Weird approach, to basically take the text I wrote here. I don't exactly write talk page text to be encyclopedic. Even Google Translate had been better. Will have to clean that up. Tomas e (talk) 12:03, 21 March 2011 (UTC)

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Criticism of Alsace Grand Cru
Hi Tomas! :)

First thanks for writing to me and please apologize my poor level in English: I surely lost a lot during years but it comes back more or less, I'm hopeful. :)

About the current main subject: I honestly never read a word about these criticisms before reading those on alsace-wine.net. But this is surely due to my Alsacian point of view not precisely (at all should I say) involved in the wine trade.

But I can understand these criticisms, knowing the how-to-think French way. For sure, laws can be unperfect but law is law. Of course, the AOC grand cru-rules are optionnal but, if someone doesn't want to apply them (or isn't allowed to do so), he loses the right to name his wines grand cru. And outlaws will be prosecuted.

The application decree provides to users the means to improve the law, i.e.:
 * Article 3: the INAO approves (or not) the delimitated parcels involved in the grand cru process;
 * Articles 6, 7 & 9: are cited a "comité régional d'experts" and a "syndicat de défense de l'appellation" to take some arrangements;
 * Article 9: is also (and again) cited the INAO to take some decisions;
 * Article 13: again cited is the "comité régional d'experts" which can propose (quote) "any change of the production conditions of the AOC".

As in many countries, French law isn't intangible and that's all good. For sure, law can't follow everyone's desire and we must trust the ones who decide(d). They certainly don't (and didn't) come from nowhere, throw dices to do so and surely some people may be unhappy. But force remains to law.

Let's come back to the article. I don't desagree about writing a line or two about these criticisms but: That's why I didn't purely erase the earlier assertions, letting who wants to improve (and complete) them.
 * I think the article's intro isn't the best place to put them;
 * maybe these critisims could benefit from a particular section;
 * these lines cannot be as weasel as they were before;
 * these lines must be referenced, attributed or what else appropriate;
 * from my POV, a counter-argumentation should also find its place.

Best, Papatt (talk) 16:19, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Regulations of planting grapes per departément
Hi again Tomas! :)

Yes, of course! Here you are. This is the table annexed to the arrêté of 1 February 2005.

If you want to find it by yourself, please follow these guidelines: I just noticed that the arrêté of 12 June 2006 made some changes, so the table isn't as up-to-date as wished. It’s a pity but most infos are OK, i.e. those that I mentionned in my last adds.
 * look for "INAO" with your favorite search engine;
 * select the top big page, which link should be http://www.inao.gouv.fr/;
 * click the link Recherche (either on the search result or in the new page);
 * type the words "classement vignes" in the left box, select "Textes" in the right one and click hen the green box "Rechercher";
 * left-click the only link that appears (new window - right-clicking leads to a new search and a copied-pasted shortcut to nothing);
 * shift to the bottom of this new page and left-click the link named:
 * Annexe à l'arrêté, which is the user guide followed by a table listing which varieties are allowed one département after another ;
 * Tableau des variétés de raisins de cuve (you'll find the shortcut at the beginning of this post), the goal of our quest: the listing by varieties showing in which départements they are R_ecommended or just A_llowed (three pages for one tour de France) ;
 * Tableau des variétés de raisins de table, not interresting for what we looked for.

As everywhere in the world, French laws are written forever and can be cancelled or changed as soon as a new text has been published (have a look on the case of local law in Alsace-Moselle ;). That could be the case of grape varieties in France and Europe, which could be (I can't remember where I read this) object of a new European (liberal) rule before 2018.

Best, Papatt (talk) 16:19, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

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Possible rollback of Lars Magnus Ericsson
Hi! Do you have the ability to rollback the strange changes made to Lars Magnus Ericsson made by 194.237.142.7? Ponkatron (talk) 02:02, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

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Varieties vs Varietals
Hi Tomas. please see this diff and this diff, and let me know if they should be reverted. There may also  be more. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 08:21, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hi! I'd say (may I?) that if the French AOC regulations allow blends for specific dénominations, these may not be claimed as varietal (according to French AOC regulations which recognise only pure varietals). Furthermore, varietals must be allowed in the specified AOC labels. If not, wines claimed as varietal must be demoted as vin de pays and the winemakers have to choose: either AOC or varietal label.
 * For your two specific cases, I'd say reverting is the good choice. HTH. Papatt (talk) 12:12, 24 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Thanks for your prompt reply Papatt. I haven't  attended any  meetings  of the local  syndicats for a couple of years now and I'm  slowly  getting  out of touch after living  for 12 years in  Thailand - a manager is looking  after my  own vineyard. For the two  wines in question I've never heard of them  being  produced as AOC in a single grape variety. I'll  try  to  do some snooping  at  the INAO. --Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 12:30, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello, these edits are clearly erroneous and seem to be done by someone who can't tell the difference between varieties and varietals. For AOCs, the relevant information is course the allowed varieties. Actually, I've never been too big a fan of Infobox Wine Region, since it is not ideally adapted to AOCs (or DOs/DOCs/DOCGs) in its terminology, but I've never had the patience to come up with something else. In this case, while Ch9dP in theory could produce varietal wines from all allowed varieties (since there are no restricitions on proportions), they couldn't use the varietal label as far as I understand, and then I don't feel that it is really relevant to term them "varietal". (I've never been able to track down the regulation which allows varietal label for regional AOCs.) Claiming that Côte-Rôtie could make varietal Viognier, on the other hand, is just plain wrong! By the way, I've been rather passive in the Wine project the last couple of months, no specific reason other than activity over at Swedish Wikipedia (so I do some interwiki linking here) and arranging various wine tasting classes. Perhaps I'll make a comeback later this year - we'll see. Tomas e (talk) 15:28, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks for making all  the fixes Tomas.

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Metapedia
Yes, please. I am still interested in getting general summaries of the articles, in case somebody wants to use additional sources WhisperToMe (talk) 20:27, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, will try to take a look tomorrow. Tomas e (talk) 21:34, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ Tomas e (talk) 16:50, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

de.wiki Vega Sicilia
Hi Tomas, hoping you might be able to help please. As mentioned on the Wine Project talk page, the English article on Vega Sicilia was almost entirely a copyvio as of this revision. It seems that some of our article has been translated into the German article here. There are major similarities, but not all of the German article is from ours, so I'm not sure what to do - are you able to help please? Camw (talk) 07:21, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Well, when it has been translated, then it is probably not a copyvio anymore (at least strictly speaking), since the user will have put in a considerable work on his own and inevitably done some interpretations. Considering the user behing the dewiki article (one of the most active regarding wine-related articles in that language version), I'm sure it's rather well translated, i.e., work has been put into it. That said, I'll notify him that the version he translated was a copyvio version, so he can double-check if any action is needed. Tomas e (talk) 14:46, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Strictly speaking I think it still would be, if I translate a book that is still copyrighted in its original language I couldn't publish it. I appreciate if you can ask him to look at it. Thanks. Camw (talk) 22:56, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

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Wahlforss
hejsan, bara som fyi. så wilhelm wahlforss är inte svensk, utan finsk. Så jag tog bort honom från wikiproject sweden.

Gillis (talk) 09:33, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Hello, no problems, and you're absolutely correct. A small explanation: I was going through a substantial backlog of larticles identified by AlexNewBot as potential WP:SWEDEN articles in previous months, and words such as "Swedish-speaking" makes for hits (so there is always a significant portion of "false positives" with these bot-generated lists). Sometimes I assess also for other relevant projects (e.g. WPFinland) from these WPSweden lists, and in this edit I actually wrote "Stub-class for WPFinland & WPBio" in my edit summary but put in a WPSweden template. An obvious cut-and-paste error, and thanks for spotting and correcting it. Regards, Tomas e (talk) 23:02, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Champagne Krug Page
Hi Tomas e,

As you maybe already saw it on the discussion page topic, I represent House of Krug, and we would like to take part to Wikipedia's collaborative project on the page dedicated to Champagne Krug. We identified you as one of the most recent contributor of the page. I let you read the message we posted on the discussion topic to be informed on our approach.

We really need experimented contributor's guidance to success in creating the best and informative page on Champagne Krug. We saw on your profile that you got interest on wine, and that your member of the Wikiproject Wine. We also saw that you particularly took care of the page format, by editing image for example. Given your knowledge about Wikipedia and your interest for wine, working with you would very helpful.

If you are interested to help us on this project, or if you have any contact or idea, please contact us.

Best regards.

--Champagne Krug (talk) 09:12, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

Hi Tomas,

Many thanks for your answer and your user guide, it's very helpful.

I just received a first version of the plan we would like to work on with Wikipedia's contributors.

As you can see, we are thinking about creating new section and complete some existing sections to be as complete as possible. It also contains some possible modifications we'd like to propose to Wikipedia, if you are ok with that. What do you think about this plan? Is that coherent for you? Do you think it respects Wikipedia's rules?

Once the structure of the page has been validated by the community, in a second way, we will share with you and other interested people, content we are thinking to add in these sections.

I think we will particularly need your help to adapt this content to be sure to respect Wikipedia's rules. We are trying to be as neutral as possible, but being professionals, we use to have bad language habits :)

Again, many thanks for your help. In addition, we are absolutely open to discussion, so do not hesitate to ask us any information you consider relevant for this page, we will do our possible to give you this information.

Best regards. Champagne Krug (talk) 09:57, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

KRUG / WIKIPEDIA / PROPOSED PLAN

Title: Change current title (Champagne Krug) to Krug Champagne

Introductory paragraph: Simplify the content somewhat to make the page more accessible. Introduce all the subjects that will be dealt with in greater detail subsequently.

Images: replace the current logo with the new one, and perhaps add images of Joseph Krug, the cellars, bottles of Krug, old advertising images, etc.

Contents: Modify both the order of the contents (with a view to making the page more accessible) and the terminology (to make it more in keeping with the Krug history).

♦ History of the House Update and modify the texts to talk about the history of the House.

Aspects to be included:


 * A more detailed biography of Joseph Krug
 * Joseph Krug's notebook (quotes from the notebook + images)
 * The six generations of the Krug family
 * Famous Krug lovers and the presence of Krug at various historic moments
 * Olivier Krug
 * The role of Eric Lebel + of other members of the winemaking team
 * The creation of Krug Rosé, Krug Clos d'Ambonnay and Krug Clos du Mesnil

♦ Champagnes Update the names of the champagnes and give a brief description of the particularities of each cuvee and incorporate some quotes from wine critics (if allowed?)


 * Krug Grande Cuvée: blending, reserve wines, recreation of the same taste every year, its bouquet, its taste.
 * Krug Rosé: same spirit of recreation as with KGC, "a Krug before it is a Rosé", its bouquet, its taste.
 * Krug Vintage: the character of each year, talk about the bouquet and taste of the latest vintage
 * Krug Collection
 * Krug Clos du Mesnil: a single vineyard, a single grape variety, a single year
 * Krug Clos d'Ambonnay: a single vineyard, a single grape variety, a single year

♦ Winemaking Develop the text about the practice of winemaking at Krug and the House's savoir-faire.

♦ Vintages + Collection + Clos years Compile a list of all the years in which Krug has created a Vintage or a Clos + the Collection years

♦ Philosophy Talk about the founding principles of the House of Krug: savoir-faire, the importance of excellence, of blending, and of time. (be neutral)

Relationship with Krug lovers (?)

Mention the House's collaboration with artists who share the same values (Scarlett Hooft Graafland).

♦ Quotes Quotes concerning Krug said by historical characters.


 * I'll have to look at this and come back within a couple of days. Tomas e (talk) 13:26, 7 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Great! See you soon ! Champagne Krug (talk) 18:28, 7 September 2011 (UTC)

Carl Möller
Hey Tomas, could you please go check the red links on Carl Möller and see the best english translation for them ? I'd like to create the articles, but I don't know what fits best (See sv:wiki). Thanks a million ! Krenakarore (talk) 12:05, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, will do. It's a couple of defunct governmental organizations with rather non-obvious names to a contemporary Swedish ear, so I'll come back to them a little later. Tomas e (talk) 13:05, 28 August 2011 (UTC)


 * Wonderful Tomas, you're great ! Nice to work with you. If there's no way, no problem, we keep the titles in Swedish ok. Krenakarore (talk) 14:21, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

userboxes
Hey there Thomas e, would you like me to organize your userboxes on your user page? Vought109 (talk) 07:09, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
 * OK, have a go! I've never really bothered to have my user page look that neat and I can always restore a previous uglier version if it looks too good... :-) Tomas e (talk) 09:07, 6 September 2011 (UTC)

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Swedish Army Museum: Photographs
Hej Tomas!

Do you know anything about the copyright status of pictures from the museum website? I would like to upload the picture of the chimpanzee raiding party, at least as fair use, for the article.

Mvh, Kiefer .Wolfowitz 09:46, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The only thing I've noticed from Swedish Wikipedia discussions is that Swedish public museums tend to be very varying in their policies, and unfortunately on average a lot less generous than we'd like. I've never really worked with uploading images from other sources than my own camera, so for more input I'd suggest asking if anyone could assist you at either sv:Wikipedia:Bildfrågor ("Image questions") or sv:Wikipedia:Bybrunnen ("Village pump") on Swedish Wikipedia. Questions in English are OK on these pages. Tomas e (talk) 13:22, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

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Châteauneuf-du-Pape AOC
Hi Tomas. Could you please take a look  at this  diff. I'm sure it's not  really  needed but  I  don't  want  to  revert without  a second opinion. Thanks. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:22, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Hello, although much of it seems more-or-less correct/reasonable, it's a good idea to avoid having "POV"/value judgments about wine styles & quality without reliable sources. So a text of this kind without referencing can't really stay, in my opinion. It's also incorrect on one significant point: real appellation rules date from the 1930s (with some forerunners in the 1910s and 1920s), not 1855, so "adultering" northern wines with southern by negociants is supposed to have continued (at least) until that time. Tomas e (talk) 15:33, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks Tomas. I'll revert  it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 15:54, 6 January 2012 (UTC)

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Gerhard Eichelmann
Dear Thomas, I would like you to review my translation of Gerhard Eichelmann if you find the time. Thanks in advance--Symposiarch (talk) 14:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * ✅ Tomas e (talk) 15:25, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you very much, I hope you enjoyed it. Read you again--Symposiarch (talk) 15:30, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

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Svenska kärnvapenprogrammet
Have you considered translating your article sv:Svenska kärnvapenprogrammet to the english wikipedia? It looks like a comprehensive and well-referenced article! At least I, and probably many more, would be very interested in reading a comprehensive article on the Swedish nuclear weapons program in english! SatenikTamar (talk) 06:58, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the idea, it's always nice to get feedback about it. I may have thought about it at one time, but then forgotten about it. I may give it a shot, probably in a couple of months' time rather than just now. Tomas e (talk) 17:14, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice, I very much look forward for a possible future article in english :) SatenikTamar (talk) 10:55, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

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The Bugle: Issue LXXIV, May 2012
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Paul Britten Austin
Hi there Tomas e, hope you're keeping well.

I see you've removed the WP Sweden from Paul Britten Austin on the grounds he's not Swedish. He certainly wasn't: but he thought, wrote and translated Swedish and lived in Sweden, so I'm not at all sure I understand your logic here. Shouldn't the author of a major book on Sweden's national bard Carl Michael Bellman qualify for WP Sweden?

Thanks Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:36, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
 * I wouldn't actively include them myself, but it's a borderline case to include translators of Swedish literature in the project. Since the article had a project template without parameters, I assumed it had been added without much thought or automatically for certain categories, such things have happened in the past. :-) Feel free to readd it. Tomas e (talk) 16:40, 9 June 2012 (UTC)


 * Thanks very much, I'll do that. He was an author and broadcaster as well as translator, by the way. I hesitate to grade my own articles but you're right, I'd better do so! Thanks again Chiswick Chap (talk) 16:50, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

GOCE July 2012 Copy Edit Drive
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The Bugle: Issue LXXVI, July 2012
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The Bugle: Issue LXXVII, August 2012
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Military history coordinator election
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The Bugle: Issue LXXVIII, September 2012
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The Bugle: Issue LXXIX, October 2012
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DYK for Tunisian wine
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DYK for Wine Grapes
The DYK project (nominate) 16:01, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

The Bugle: Issue LXXX, November 2012
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The Bugle: Issue LXXXI, December 2012
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