User talk:Tomica/Archive 3

JLO discography
Would you mind, I don't know, helping out? — Status  &#x7B;talkcontribs  20:18, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
 * He's saying that the titles of the refs are mostly all wrong. Most of them do not say what they claim to say in the code of the website. Like how this page says "User talk:1111tomica - Wikipedia..." — Status  &#x7B;talkcontribs  23:37, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Rihanna PR
If a bot closes it, then keep it closed. They all get closed after a while. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon! 10:39, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * mmm I don't get it. How they closed if I don't want to close it. The same happened with "Rehab", however I was planning to close it. But, here? The used didn't even start reviewing the article. :/ — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  10:42, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * It doesn't matter if you want it to close of or not, it's not your decision. If they don't get any reviews for a certain amount of time, they get archived, as there is no point keeping them open. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  10:45, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahh, Ok, I think the user will give his points. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  10:46, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The PR stays closed as the Bot closed it. Whoever wrote some comments can give them to you here. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  10:47, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Reliable sources useful for the background/writing/recording/production/whatever-you-call-it stuff
Tom. I remember I have used SOS before for at least two of my GAs. I remember that when Jivesh dropped by my talk page. Anyways, since you are a Rihanna fan, I saw this stuff for "SOS" and "Unfaithful". I'll ping Calvin about this. --Efe (talk) 10:48, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * What an amazing coincidence!!! I was about to give to post that link. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 10:53, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * OOOOoo great information. Thank You :) ! Btw what do you think about this? Jivesh liked it... — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  10:55, 27 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Here one more. By the way, what is your birth date? I might search for more links (like these ones) and present then to you as your birthday gifts. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 10:57, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * LOL ahahaha ... 11 November, 1992 xD ! Btw If you found some like this for "Rehab" please don't wait until my b-day xD! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  10:59, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, there is nothing about "Rehab". If there was, i would not have kept you waiting. Lol Consider working on "Unfaithful". I will assist you. You can also do "SOS" and "Umbrella" but let Calvin know first. I do not want you two to get involved in conflicts again. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:05, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I will tell him. However, I don't think he will have in mind, cause we made an agreement. He will work on the first two new singles from the upcoming album. I already started with "Unfaithful" I adore that song. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  11:06, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Okay. Stick to "Unfaithful" then but let me tell you that if "Unfaithful" has 50% chance of passing FAC, then "Umbrella" has 75% chance. Don't you like "Umbrella"? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:12, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Of course I like it. However I'm afraid If I can not find sources for the live performances and composition :/ ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  11:14, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * What if we collaborate? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:17, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I would be very happy if that happens :D:D:D !— Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  11:20, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * So i will do "Umbrella" and "Unfaithful" with you. But not in the near future. Maybe in December 2011 as i have exams. As you see, i am STILL editing Wikipedia but it has been a long time since i have stopped nominating articles for GAC. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:22, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Deal. Soon I'm also starting the exams. So maybe middle November (If you can) we can start a little and continue late December 2011 and early January 2012 :) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  11:26, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I prefer not to start. Seems like you do not know me well. Let me scare you. When i start working on something here, i tend to forget my homework, food, drink, sleep, etc. I also prefer not to take any risks because of my exams. Let's get on this in December 2011. Deal??? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:33, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Auuu you really scared me. We are definitely starting in December :) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  11:35, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 11:36, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Have a look at how Adele should be right now!!! ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:26, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hahahaha, you are crazy xD !— Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  15:29, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

We Found Love
I'm surprised it debuted at 16, but I guess it was only half a week of sales. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon! 20:31, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Well I also hoped that it would debuted in the Top 10, or eventually Top 5, however right. The song was released in Thursday (only 4 days) and didn't received any much promotion after it's digital release. I think it will reach number one. I don't know but I have that feeling :)! The video is coming soon, awards and promotional performances also. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  20:34, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I'm surprised Cheers has ascended though. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  20:39, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah. I know, Cheers will never reach number one, however I will be very happy if it manages to reach the top 5 :) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  20:42, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Digital sales dropped this week, but still strong. A live performance of two would solidify a top five position for sure. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  20:49, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Hard to happen. She starts her European leg tomorrow. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  20:51, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * European promo will be easy. But whenever she has a day or 2 free, she will have to fly back to America for like 12/18 hours then fly back to Europe to pre-record promo appearances. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  11:30, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

How on earth is she going to promote this album? There goes another chance for a number one album in the US. :( — Status  &#x7B;talkcontribs  01:42, 29 September 2011 (UTC)

Good News
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Jenks24#I_.28We.29_Need_Your_Help. He replied]. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:48, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Thank you my friend. Thank you so much :) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  18:03, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * You are most welcome. By the way, may i know your real name? Is it Tommy or Tom? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:32, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for late reply. My real name is Jivesh Kumar Boodhun. Lol. I am sure you have never heard something like that before. May i continue calling you Tommy? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 04:00, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I am Hindu but not Indian. I thank God everyday for not having been born in India. I am having a look at the FAC. Give me a few minutes. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:55, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * The reviewer meant that the sample's length is good and within limit. However, a sample is not necessary because the text added in the sample box does not require a sample to illustrate it. It can be easily understood if written in words only. With that being said, we have to improve the rationale or remove the sample (which i do not want to happen but it seems inevitable). Was there any significant review commenting on something like the instrumentation, or "Rehab" resembling another song aurally, or any remarkable description of Rihanna's vocals? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:01, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Tommy, i read all the reviews and there is none. Sorry but it is the truth. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 03:46, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Loud
It's had it's GOCE and I've listed it back for GAN now. Hopefully this time it will pass. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon! 17:13, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't really understand some points from the GOCE thing. Why are the songs in the Live Performances italicized?! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  18:19, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Long story. We will have un-italicise them. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  20:00, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * ✅ :) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  20:09, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * There couldn't have been many? Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  20:11, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I found one more and fixed it. Btw about "We Found Love" chart references, Hung Medien is also publisher. You shouldn't remove it. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  20:30, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't think it matters. VG Lista is the official chart company. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  20:31, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Mmm... I don't know, I think we should just ask anybody, cause there are also the Belgium charts. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  20:32, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
 * If it comes up in GAN, then it can be changed. But I think it should be left until then now, this article has caused such head ache! Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  20:34, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Do you mind if I do Music of the Sun by myself? Then I can promote Music of the Sun, Pon de Replay and If It's Lovin' That You Want to a Good Article Topic. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon! 11:44, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No, go ahead do it. I'm too busy with my university in the moment anyway. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  12:26, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. DO you know how to upload music samples, I might need one for If It's Lovin' at some point, as I think the picture from the music video will fail notability. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  12:50, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No, I don't really have and idea how to reduce a music sample and upload it. I think Jivesh knows :) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  13:11, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I can only find one decent review with actual commentary about If It's Lovin'! Oh god. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  13:41, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Mmmm I searched for some, but I can find nothing but this one that you probably know. Maybe you can find info in the Music of the Sun reviews? — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  15:02, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah that's the one I have used. The Music of the Sun reviews are sparse as well. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  15:07, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * May i jump in and find you some reviews? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:25, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Tommy i hope you believe me. I read all the reviews one by one. Unfortunately, nothing supports the inclusion of the sample. Remember this is FAC and it is a very difficult process. The only song of Beyonce which passed there at once was "Irreplaceable". ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:27, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Go for it. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  15:32, 1 October 2011 (UTC) And no audio file has been added?  Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!
 * We are talking about the "Rehab" FAC. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  15:34, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Of course Calvin. Tommy i am very happy that you believe. Tommy, Calvin, Nathan, Mags, and Jimee (blocked), You are my BEST friends. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:35, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh right okay. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  15:36, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * All of you please reply here. Calvin, what reviews do you already have? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:37, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I told you. :D You are my best friend on Wikipedia. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  15:38, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Awwwwwwwwwwww that's so nice. Calvin, what reviews do you already have? Do you want me to post the album reviews? I mean all of them? Do not hesitate. Just ask. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:41, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I only have the About.com review. I've looked on Allmusic but it didn't have a review of the song. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  15:46, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I have got 7 so far. Wait. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:47, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

Music of the Sun

 * http://www.slantmagazine.com/music/review/rihanna-music-of-the-sun/619
 * Nothing useable about If It's Lovin' that You Want Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!
 * http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1098313,00.html
 * No mention of If It's Lovin' that You Want Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!
 * http://www.sputnikmusic.com/review/25968/Rihanna-Music-of-the-Sun/
 * No mention of If It's Lovin' that You Want Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!
 * http://www.allmusic.com/album/music-of-the-sun-r783863
 * http://music.barnesandnoble.com/Music-of-the-Sun/Rihanna/e/602498826164
 * Exactly the same review as Allmusic. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!
 * http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2005/sep/04/popandrock.shopping1
 * http://www.rollingstone.com/music/albumreviews/music-of-the-sun-20050908
 * No mention of If It's Lovin' that You Want Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!
 * http://music.aol.com/album/rihanna/music-of-the-sun/860946
 * Exactly the same review as Allmusic and Barnes and Noble. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  16:02, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:51, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * They are all reliable for both GARC and FAC. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 15:58, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * That's what I mean't by If It's Lovin' that You Want not having barely any usable reviews. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  16:02, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * So you wanted reviews for the song? Not the album. Sorry. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 16:30, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah I was talking about Music of the Sun not having any reviews in relation to talking about If It's Lovin' that you Want lol. But thanks, I can use those for the album article. I'm surprised at how much I've managed to expand If It's Lovin' that You Want by. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  16:32, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Judging form how the article was, i must say it loud: "It is definitely something great. It also shows that you are growing as an editor. (By growing, i mean you are becoming more tactful and experienced). ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 16:37, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * You need the do better Compo and CR sections for WFL. You can do it Calvin., Follow this example. I did nothing great. All i did was to select the appropriate information. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 16:41, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * We Found Love doesn't have the same vast quantity of information that Countdown has. More will become available when the album is released. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  16:52, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * @Jivesh ... so we are removing the audio file in "Rehab" right?! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  16:58, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I am afraid YES Tommy. Calvin, in fact i can assure you there is. See all articles of Beyonce, all of them have one. And i assure you that Rihanna gets more reviews. You can compare at Metacritic. I think i will do that for WFL tomorrow. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:01, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahhh. :/ And can you place some picture with a caption or something by reading the paragraph? — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:02, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes. For which section(s)? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:04, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Composition or eventually Critical reception. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:06, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:13, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Btw this URL archiving is killing me :/ ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:15, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I have to do the same for "Single Ladies". At least, you are not alone. Lol. I added an image and moved the music sample (which should eventually be removed)/ I cannot find an image of Timbaland. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:26, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah we are not alone. :P I like it how it looks with the image. Btw Nikkimaria also thinks that the article would benefit from a thorough copy-editing and you have done a load of it. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:28, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I am happy you like it. I have dome my best Tommy. I think what Nikki really meant is that the English used should be elevated. Well, we have to find a copy-editor who is native speaker of English quickly. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:37, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I know Jivesh and I really appreciate that you know. Maybe the user that re-write the first section in music video? I have written to him, but I think that he didn't write back... — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:41, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Oh yes, you should ask him again. He copy-edited "1+1" for me and it was flawless. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:45, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I will. Also think that I should re-work the charts tables per WP:ACCESS. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:46, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes Tommy. That's true. It is better the reviewers at FAC have nothing to comment about or else this will fail. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:48, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Tommy, correct your message: it is grateful not greatful. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:05, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * OOoops :D Thanks. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  18:11, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You are welcome. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:20, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

I found some reviews for If It's Lovin' That You Want: Novice7 (talk) 05:23, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The Hindu
 * NY Times
 * Billboard (How do I format the ref for this one? It's a book) Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  11:14, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Take40
 * That's amazing. Calvin will be very happy. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 05:25, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

We Found Love
We Found Love doesn't have the amount of reviews that Countdown has. Countdown has literally paragraphs for those two sections, We Found Love has a small critical reception section. The album hasn't been released, so imagine how many more reviews there will be of the song when the album is released. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon! 17:54, 1 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Calvin, you told me the same for "Only Girl (In the World)". Just have a look at the number of references on "Party"'s page and that of WFL. They are nearly the same. And Calvin, judging from my own experience, 75% of critics will not mention WFL on their album reviews because it preceded the album's release. They will all issue separate reviews for it. I assure you Calvin, it be written. I will do it for you tomorrow hopefully. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:59, 1 October 2011 (UTC)

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Hello (and future projects / Lol)
Hi Tommy. Hope you are fine. The table is impeccable. Very nice!! ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:17, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Tommy. Never say that. You have to study. You will not become a great person by editing on Wikipedia. You have to study, get a good job. It is only then that a girl will 100% want to settle with you and have babies, etc (I love babies, i want at least 2). This advice comes from the bottom of my heart. You do not have to worry. I will keep an attentive eye on all your articles.
 * Reply here itself if it is easier for you. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:37, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Haha you are crazy Jivesh (I mean in a positive way of course). Everything you said it's true :/... and I will go to study like in 10 minutes, but I DON'T WANT TOOOOOO !hahah :) ... Yeah a like babies a lot, I like to have 3 :D. But it's too early for that, it has to pass some more time ;) !— Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  12:38, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * At what age do you want to get married? I think 25 or 26 is okay for me. I do not want to become a dad when i am over 30 or else his future friends might take me for his/her grandfather. I would like to have a baby boy first. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:42, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Well the same, or eventually 27 (more time to party :P). I share the same opinion. I really want to see them more. You mean baby boy?:) I like to have a baby girl first :D ! Girls love their fathers more than mothers and boys reverse :) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  12:46, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol i hope you did not think of the bots on Wikipedia. Lol. What you say is true but nevertheless, i want a boy first so that he can look after my wife and my daughter if ever i did young. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:50, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Mmmm... We will see as the time passes by. By now, I went to studyyy :// See you in 4-5 hours :D ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  12:51, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sure. I will be waiting. To tell you frankly, if my parents were not severe, I would find myself a nice job, a nice girl and settle down right now. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:54, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * In my country, If you don't finish university, you can barely not find a job. So for that I have to study for another 4 years. Ahhh. And after that I'm gonna start planing my family. Until it happens I will just party, get drunk, loving girls, editing on Wikipedia... enough? :D — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  16:26, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Removal of Singlechart templates.
I'm wondering about your strange removals (1 2) of the templates at Rehab (Rihanna song). I said in my edit summary when I reverted your removals, "Huh? WP:ACCESS doesn't require removal of templates.", and you responded in this edit summary, " maybe it's not required in some cases, but here YES! It's required cause of the reference formatting. Do not revert it". How could it possibly be required? It would be the first time I'm aware of in the last three years. The template has a good following and is widely accepted across WP music articles; how can it suddenly be a problem for this one article? If you don't like the ref formatting it produces, you should take your concerns to Template talk:Singlechart and present them there. But don't just remove the templates and add a bunch of bulk to the page. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 17:44, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I understand what you're saying, there is nothing wrong with the template, but I also understand what Tomica is saying to a certain point, as writing it out instead of using the pre-coded singles template does make it easier to reference. But you can still apply WP:ACCESS to the  template.  Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  17:48, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * So far, Tomica isn't saying anything so I don't know how you can understand it. Why is writing out  better than writing (and especially, keeping)  . On top of that, the extra-effort, by-hand results are actually wrong, too. What good is that? &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 17:56, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Because I have also done what he is talking about before. That is why I understand. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  19:22, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I nominated the article for FA. So there was one comment saying: Be consistent in whether websites are cited using website names or URL names. In some cases when you use the template these issues happens. And I don't really see what's the problem with you here for not using the template. It's particularly the same. —  Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:53, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * It is not an obligation to use the template. I personally never use it because it is very difficult to interpret and there are various issues, for example, Wikipedia prefers Dutch Top 40 while using the template brings us to the charts compiled by MegaCharts (From what i have seen in many song articles). ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:01, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Jivesh, it's true it's not required, but it is recommended (for reasons I've mentioned below). And when thee templates are already in place, removing them is just silly. Regarding the Dutch charts, the template has you covered. If you'll look at the documentation, you might notice that using  gets you the MegaCharts Single Top 100 ref, and using   gets you the Dutch Top 40. Those aren't "issues". Got something else? &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 18:24, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * The problems are
 * You took simpler code and replaced it with more complicated code. Harder to maintain, easier to make a mistake.
 * You made mistakes when you added all that manual code. The Belgian charts are Ultratip, but you didn't notice. The sites aren't in Danish or Swedish or Swiss German or Italian; you made all that up. The template already knows what languages are used on those sites. "Rehab" reached 13 in Europe, but you changed it to 25. Ref 85, backing the Norway peak, is not published by Hung Medien. The template has it right, and you've made a bunch of little mistakes. That's all fixable, but it takes time. Why spend all the extra time?
 * You say the reasoning is a concern about "using website names or URL names". Some of these website names are the domain names, so there's nothing to be done here. Danishcharts.com is really named Danishcharts.com, and it's in the title of the ref generated by in Ref 79. What's wrong with that?
 * At WP:CHARTS it says, It is recommended that you use the template where possible. It was not only possible here, it already existed.
 * Mainly, my problem is that you got rid of reliable, proven work to solve a problem that didn't really exist, and you naturally made a bunch of mistakes doing it. It's a waste of everybody's time. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 18:18, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * John, i respect you. I know you may be right, But please let us continue the way we have always done. For us, it is easier to do it the old way. I have never been told in my GANs that i am obliged to changed it to the template form. I am used to it now. I find it very difficult to do it the template style. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 18:28, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but I'm not saying you or anybody else has to change to templates. I'm saying that, since they were already there, and were correct and complete, there is no usefulness in replacing them with incorrect and incomplete bulk with a variable formatting, all of which required more effort to get this far (and will require more to eradicate the remaining errors). &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 19:59, 2 October 2011 (UTC)


 * For yours so there's nothing to be done here my article can fail at the FAC. I'm not changing the charts to the singles chart templates. In fact you can use Tracklisten, Danish Top 40 or Danish Singles Chart instead of danishcharts.com cause that is questioned at FAC! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  18:31, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Tomica, if you present explanations of what you're doing and why, "your" article won't necessarily fail FAC. It's supposed to be a discussion there; and if you disagree with something you can explain the issues. I've looked at that review now and I still don't see what's wrong with the results from the templates. I also don't see any mention of Tracklisten or Danish Singles Chart so once again, I don't know what you're talking about. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 19:59, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The thing with the Danish charts was my example, but that was what Nikkimaria meant with using websites or URL, but to be consistent with that. Btw I have to archive all the references including the chart ones, a process that I'm doing right now. So I don't want to get back the singles template, at least not until the FAC is not over. The GAN and FAC is something really different. When I nominated "What's My Name?" which was my first GA, Legolas told me that I should do the table, like I have done now with "Rehab", but it was not so neseceary, here is other thing. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  20:12, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Are you suggesting you intend to use manual refs (because you don't know how else) to get the article passed as an FA, and will then change back to templates once the reviewers have gone away? I don't understand that, I didn't understand the Danish example, and I don't have any clue why you're talking about GAN and Legolas and "doing the table". It's alright; I'm going to unwatch the "Rehab" article and let you goop it up as you wish. Good luck, &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 20:27, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Look, I don't want to be rude and I respect you as an editor so I will explain to you once again. You said that when you use the singles template the result that happens for the publisher in the references is For ex. danishcharts.com. Well, this is questioned at the FAC, cause of the using the website names or just URL names. Rehab uses the web site names, so that should be consistent in the whole article. Instead of using danishcharts.com I should use Tracklisten, or eventually Danish Top 40 etc. I hope you understand why I'm doing this now. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  20:32, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I hope I'm not being too rude either, although I'm sure I sound exasperated. Consider this example:
 * This site is called Wikipedia, but its "URL name", as you call it, is en.wikipedia.org. There's a clear difference between the two. Yes? Now over at danishcharts.com, the name of the site is danishcharts.com. There is no other name for it; that's what it's called. Its domain name, or "URL name" is also danishcharts.com. (Not really a coincidence, but they're two separate things that happen to be equal.) Consider also sites like Amazon.com which title themselves based on their domain name. I do not see where anyone is telling you to use some made-up name instead of danishcharts.com, nor to leave out the site name because it looks too much like a URL. You are needlessly dropping the name of the website. That's what I'm trying to get across here. &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 00:43, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Rated R
When do you want to start Rated R? Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon! 13:03, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * To be real Calvin, I'm kind off very busy in real life these days. I have to study for my upcoming exams and also there is "Rehab". I nominated it for a FA and have to do the points made by the editors. Can you wait for couple of weeks. I will write you when I'm free. Okay ? — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  16:28, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * okay Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  17:27, 2 October 2011 (UTC)

Hey, add Fading to your watchlist please. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon! 18:21, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Done/Added. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  18:24, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Re:
Forgive me for late reply. I did not see your message. You should remove the sample my friend. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 19:22, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The video of "Countdown" has just leaked partly. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 19:43, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Here. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 19:46, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The video has already been shot. We will talk tomorrow. I have to go. Take care. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 19:51, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

hey
I'm seeing Rihanna in concert tomorrow! Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon! 19:29, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ahhhhh you are so lucky. I am so jealous on you :(. You are seeing her twice. And you gonna meet her on the later concert. Well, have fun and record every moment of the concert in your head because I want a review of it :) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  21:25, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Never know, I might end of using a picture on here! Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  21:28, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I didn't understand your point. :/ — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  21:29, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Pictures I take on my camera, I might be able to upload to use on here. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  21:36, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ohhh right. :) Maybe, maybe. Can you take a shot of her while performing "Disturbia"? I need for the article :) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  21:37, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Haha, I'll try! Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  21:39, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Cool. ;) Have fun ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  21:40, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks. I'll tell you about on Thursday. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  21:46, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I am so jealousssssssssssssssssssssss. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 09:24, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

New messages
Hi Tomica. I didn't know where to send you the message, but this is only a reminder to the call that I've posted on your discussion page on the Macedonian Wikipedia. You'll always be a member of the Macedonian community as well. Best regards.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 20:08, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Благодарам!--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 20:15, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Читај кај тебе ;) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  20:17, 5 October 2011 (UTC)

Rehab
I am fine Tommy. I hope you are fine too. I think the comments are inevitable but what is good is that you re fixing them soonest possible and that is good. In this way, reviewers will not lose interest in the FAC. If it fails, do not be discouraged. No music article (practically) have passes FAC at once. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 09:45, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I sincerely wish the same Tommy. Whenever you need to cheer up, my collection of gifs are waiting for you with open arms. Take care. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 09:59, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Rehab
Hello. How are you? Thanks for the comments concerning "Rehab" at it's FAC. I addressed some of the issues and there were additional comments. Can you check it and wright what you think about? Thanks — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  19:33, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes, I'll take a look. But I commented on the FAC on the 5th of October. That was yesterday. In the future, do you mind waiting at least two days or more before contacting someone? It just seems a tad bit impatient. Oran e   (talk)  03:08, 7 October 2011 (UTC)

Rihanna at the 02 Arena!
OMG, she was amazing! I had such a good time, the What's My Name/Pon de Replay remix was incredible! And she sang her ass of in LTWYL Pt 2, she proper went for it! It was weird because when she sang Only Girl, S&M, Man Down, Raining Men, CKB, Cheers, Rude Boy and Hard, I was thinking to myself "i made those articles a GA!, I wonder if she has ever looked!" haha. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon! 11:23, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hahaha. I also think sometimes, is Rihanna just checking what's happening on Wikipedia with her articles. You say it was great... I'm so jealous :(. Did you take some shots? And I also think that her vocals were incredible, right?:) — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:00, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No, I will take pictures when I see her in November. My friends took pictures though. Yeah, she sounded amazing on Unfaithful/HTILY/CKB and LTWYL Pt2. Ahhhh it was sooo good! Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  17:45, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * :((( You are so lucky ... — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:47, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Where is the nearest city she is performance to you? You should go! Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  17:51, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Budapest. But I can't go, I have exams at that period. Ahhh I'il just have to wait for her next tour. She was in Belgrade (which is very close) in 2007, however I was not a fan of her back then :/ — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:58, 6 October 2011 (UTC)

Talk That Talk
I hope the track listing gets released this month. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon! 17:16, 9 October 2011 (UTC)

Help
I need your help here. I agree with the grammar thing but the rest seems (i cannot get the appropriate word). ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 06:38, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I gave my opinion on the talk page. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  13:00, 10 October 2011 (UTC)

WP:OR in photo captions
Hi, Tomica. I'm tired of edit warring with you and Vitorfatale when it should be clear to you what my concerns are about these edits. You two keep adding a bunch of photos (or at least Vitor is, without any explanation of why they're useful or necessary, although he has started to put something in his edit summaries), and then you both seem to think it's perfectly okay to add some claim in the caption that Rihanna is, uh, performing "Hard" in the photo.

This is pure original research as it is not stated in the image description anywhere, and neither of you have provided any reliable sources telling us what song she's definitely singing. It seems to me that the claims that she's performing, um, "Only Girl" are only excuses to get the images included on the article page under fair use. In fact, we have absolutely no such information about what's being performed. Any other claim without some WP:RS support is either WP:OR or deliberate misinformation. In any case, repeatedly changing these things back is edit-warring and I hope nobody gets blocked for it. Please feel free to self-revert your last edit to "Only Girl (In the World)".

BTW, your claim that "a bunch of FA or GA has pics with the certain title of the song" doesn't persuade me because (1) even if other pages do things wrong, it's still no reason to do the rest wrong, too, and (2) if there is some source for what song is being performed, than a matching caption is entirely appropriate. However, for File:RihannaLastGirlOnEarthPaMar2011.jpg and File:Rihanna, LOUD Tour, Oakland 4.jpg, we don't have such info, can't know what she was singing at the time the photo was taken, and so we have to omit that from the caption. Regards, &mdash; JohnFromPinckney (talk) 23:52, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

Singles Order.
Take A Bow (Rihanna song) says it was released digital on May 6, 2008, but If I Never See Your Face Again says it was released on May 2, 2008. Either sources need to be found stating that Take A Bow was released before May 2 or IINSYFA will have to be moved to come before Take A Bow in the singles chronology in the info box. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon! 13:02, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Mmm ... I found this CD release, but it says June 6, 2008... The UK release says May 19, 2008 ... and the French CD release 21 July, 2008. Buuuuut :D I found this for you. The song was made for add on April 15, 2008 at Rhythmic radios in the US ;) !— Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  13:54, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah but digital release takes presedence. So that must mean that IINSYFA came before Take A Bow. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  13:55, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * To tell you frankly my friends, i am totally against this. US Radio add(s) should be considered in my opinion. But my opinion does not matter here since this is Wikipedia. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:57, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I also think that the radio date should be considered as a first single release date. By that theory "Take a Bow" was released before "If I Never See Your Face Again", but by the other ... I really don't understand that radio/digital stuff :/ — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  13:59, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I know, but as you said, rules come first. I will change them around then. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  14:00, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ok I will changed it in "Disturbia" than. "Take a Bow" and not "If I Never See Your Face Again" before it. And OMG ! I nominated Disturbia for maybe two months ago, and still no one reviewed it. :/ — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  14:03, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yes Calvin, you are right per Wikipedia. Lol. By the way, can you wiki-link me to the page where this radio vs digital thing has been discussed? Thanks in advance. I am logging off. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 14:04, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Tomica I said I was doing it already. And I don't know where the discussion is, though I think I've seen it somewhere. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  14:07, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I think it was case in Fly/Cheers (Drink to That) articles. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  14:08, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Talk That Talk will be released in the UK on the 21/11/11
If you don't believe me go on Play.com and type in Talk That Talk Rihanna and it will show you that the standard version will be released on 21/11/11, or Amazon.co.uk it will show the Deluxe edition will be released on the same day. MariaJaydHicky (talk) 10:28, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * The problem is that in my opinion that page is an unreliable source. I think we should wait for something more reliable and then will add it ;) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:47, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

its meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
we met on nathan's page, but i talked to you instead. so hiiiiii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Ben W. Lewis (talk) 16:15, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Heloooooooo :) ! How are you? Doing well? Why don't you create your user page? :) Greetings — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:47, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

user page? you mean talk page? I don't think i can do that. it's in red so i think someone has to talk to me first. just start a new section if u want to. I'm doin' fine.thanks for asking:))))))))) Rihanna should release her tracklist soon dont ya think?
 * no, they don't. Just write something. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  19:44, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Looks like someone already did...Ben W. Lewis (talk) 20:08, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No, your user page hasn't been created. It's still a read link. Your Talk page is where people will come to talk with you etc., just like this page. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  20:08, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

NOW it's created. :)BenWasHere (TalkThatTalk) (talk) 21:12, 16 October 2011 (UTC) 21:11, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yeah, now it's good :). Welcome, its good to have you here ;) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  21:18, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

Yayy!! Thanks! so how are the exams coming along???BenWasHere (TalkThatTalk) (talk) 23:56, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

A Girl Like Me booklet
Hey, do you have the booklet or now where I can download it from? Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon! 17:41, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry Calvin. I searched for it and I can't find it digitally and don't have it physically too. On which article are you working ? — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:53, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Take A Bow, it doesn't even have a credits section. I haven't got the CD either. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  17:55, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Calvin, "Take a Bow" is from Good Girl Gone Bad:Reloaded :) haha ! I will try to find it. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:57, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Opppppp. That's what I mean't haha. I have the standard edition booklet on PDF, but I can't find the Reloaded one. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  17:59, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Tadaaam :) You don't even have to download it. It's all there ;) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  18:02, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Thankssss. Are there any Take A Bow related pictures on wikipedia? Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  18:03, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yup. Here she performs it on Last Girl on Earth Tour, and this & this are from the Loud Tour :) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  18:07, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * They don't really add anything to the article. 18:20, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * ??? You can use them in the Live performance section. — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  18:22, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I could, but she could be performing any song by looking at the picture. I'd need critical commentary to prove why it adds to the article. I'll will get a picture when I see her on concert, as there is critical commentary to support to support the performance. It's a shame you can't see her completely sitting on the stage in the latter two because then I could use one of them. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  18:27, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

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Hi

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I have just had to reinstall Windows Vista after some issues with my new motherboard - I have done 213 updates and service pack 1 so far, don't know how many are left to do lol...

Anyway, I will leave comments on the Rehab page to try and answer your questions :¬) Chaosdruid (talk) 11:39, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Apologies, I normally do a first text-only run through and then address the issues off the FAR page before giving it a final once over for formatiing errors (spaces between punctuation and dashes etc.) - unfortunately my PC crashing was right after the first run through and I do feel terrible about not getting back onto it as quickly as I would have liked. I am still updating btw, 24 hours non-stop and 313 updates so far and still going! Chaosdruid (talk) 22:20, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I completed most of the copy-editing suggestions from the FAR, as well as replying to others. It seems that a lot of their initial concerns from the previous FAR were dealt with, though as the last FAR is now archived comments cannot be added. Chaosdruid (talk) 11:37, 20 October 2011 (UTC)

Take A Bow video.
I can't find any background info on it at all? Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon! 14:53, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry Calvin, no help from me this time. :S I searched all the web and I can't find a single thing that sticks for the Background of the video. Btw LOL at this... I really like it, it's crazy, however, I'm afraid that it can be restricted on YouTube, if an censored version is not uploaded. What do U think ?— Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  17:46, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Lol that's okay. I actually like the video, it's completely not what I expected. Though I agree that it is very sexual and features drug use. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  17:48, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yup. That's what scares me. I really like the video, do not want to finish like "S&M", such a popular song with only little more than 30 million views. :) — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  19:49, 19 October 2011 (UTC)

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Take A Bow Live performances.
There is literally no info for her performance at the MuchMusic Video Awards nor on The Today Show. I can't believe it! Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon! 15:54, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Ooops! I had We Found Love the brain lol Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  10:44, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Yup I supposed that's the reason.:) I really like more the videos directed by Anthony Mandler, and not by Melina. She practically ruined S&M with the awful video, and not to talk about Rude Boy and Rockstar 101. However, I like it Hard and this one it's really good. And about Mandler videos, I like all of them :) ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  11:36, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I love the video for S&M lol, it's my favourite :P Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  11:40, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't :D ! I really like chronologically - Umbrella (Chris Applebaum), Shut Up and Drive (Mandler, one of the sexiest videos by Rihanna), Hate That I Love You (Mandler, I really like Rihanna's image there), Take a Bow (Mandler), Rehab (Mandler), Hard (Melina), LTWYL (Kahn), Only Girl (Mandler), What's My Name? (Philip Andelman), California King Bed and Man Down (Mandler) and We Found Love (Melina). — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  11:43, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Mine is

11:49, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
 * 1) S&M
 * 2) Rude Boy
 * 3) Only Girl
 * 4) Disturbia
 * 5) We Found Love
 * 6) Te Amo
 * 7) Hard
 * 8) Russian Roulette
 * 9) Love the Way You Lie
 * 10) Wait Your Turn

"Party"'s release date
Please participate and help clear the confusion here. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 05:04, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Why are you semi-retired? Are you fine? Haven't talked to you since long. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 12:58, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Hey Jivesh. Yeah, you are right, we haven't spoke for a while. However, probably I'm fine, but I have a lot to study for the exams that are coming the next week and I'm in panic. So, you can see I didn't do a single useful edit in the previous weeks, and I'm very rare on the PC. I'il be back on November 10-11 (on 11 it's my B-day), cause thats the period when my exams end. How are you?:) — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  13:48, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I am fine. Thank you. My exams have already started but i try t o find some time for Wikipedia because 4 is being managed in such a way that everyone is getting confused about what is really the third single. Tommy, take your time. Revise. Do well in your exams and then come back. We are all waiting for you. Take care and best of luck. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 16:34, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I am so sorry I can't do a thing about Talk That Talk, but what can I do? However, when the album is released I will be free and have time to expand it's sections.:) I am freaking scared about the university exams, but for that I'm studying hard to pass them, even I am freaking annoyed cause I have a lot to study, and you know there is no person on the Earth that likes studying :D haha ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  16:46, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * That's true but why are you so stressed? Did you wait for the last moment to revise or what? ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 16:48, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * No, because I'm always stressed when I have to do something for first time. I mean first year on university, first university exams ... so for that :/ ! — Tomica1111  &bull;  Question Existing?  16:58, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * When you have to something for the first time? Lol. Keep faith Tommy. I am sure you will do well. Because you are very kind and most of the time, good things happen to kind persons like you. Whenever you need an attentive ear, contact me. >>> jivesh1205@hotmail.com

★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 17:06, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

WikiProject: Rihanna??
What is it and how can I join? Thanks BenWasHere (talk) 20:07, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * WikiProject Rihanna, scroll down to Participants. Calvin  &bull; Na Na Na C'mon!  20:11, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

Thanks! Guess who is a new member of WikiProject:Rihanna? It's me! lol BenWasHere (talk) 20:40, 25 October 2011 (UTC)
 * You. Lol. ★Jivesh 1205★ (talk / ♫♫Give 4 a try!!!♫♫) 13:15, 27 October 2011 (UTC)

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