User talk:Tomica/Archive 57

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Hey
Do you think Rihanna is going for equalling album with the most dance number-one songs with Katy Perry? — Calvin999 18:10, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I don't know what's really her aim, but I kinda like what she is doing. Releasing all these remix EPs a year and half after the album was released... I think she also wants more Dance Club Songs #1s to her resume in general (I mean... if "Pose" and "Desperado" hit #1 she will have 31 #1s on the chart). — Tom (T2ME) 18:20, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Yeah, she will tie Teenage Dream for album with the most number-ones. Looks like Pose certainly will be number 6, tying her with Katherine W and Beyonce. — Calvin999  18:33, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Also, would you sat these three songs are promo singles? — Calvin999  18:37, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, honestly I am not sure. In a way, yeah she is using them as a promotional material for Anti, however, she is not promoting the original version of the song directly, but instead just a bundle of remixes. I don't know. Maybe we should ask other users as well?, ... your opinion on this matter? — Tom (T2ME) 18:40, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I kind of think they are promo singles, because they are being remixed and promoted in clubs and presumably dance radio station will play them too. It's quite a cheap but effective way of promoting a song. — Calvin999  18:57, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I have no idea what to say on this matter. Snuggums (talk / edits) 22:10, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
 * If they are just remix EPs sent to clubs, then they are promotional "singles" for sure, coupled with the fact that they are charting also. Madonna had the same strategy with American Life songs "Mother and Father" and "Nobody Knows Me" as well as Music track "Impressive Instant". — I B  [ Poke  ] 05:28, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Seems fair. Thanks for your input :). Changing them to promotional singles. — Tom (T2ME) 08:48, 11 June 2017 (UTC)

You've got mail!
— Calvin999 19:34, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

List of songs recorded by Rihanna
Why has someone removed thousands of bytes worth of info? — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b> 09:29, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

Peer review/Like a Prayer (song)/archive3
Hey Tomica, I would really like to have input from you regarding this article as I plan to take this up for FAC, followed by "Living for Love" which you had said that is in good shape. Would you please comment on the Peer review page? — I B  [ Poke  ] 04:38, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Hey ! Of course. I will have a detailed look at the article and post my comments/recommendations in the upcoming few days :). — Tom (T2ME) 08:50, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

Chart performance
This is what I hate. Song articles almost always have their own thing going on in it. Most song articles I see have "Chart performance" instead of Commercial, which is widely for albums. Same thing with "Credits and personnel" for song articles instead of just "Personnel". I don't know where it originates from but it's taken its own direction it seems. I was just trying to make it consistent with other song articles. I hate that it's a different beast when it shouldn't be. There are no strict guidelines for song articles. --<span style="font-weight:bold;font-variant:small-caps;color:#FFFFFF;background-color:#ff8711;letter-spacing:1pt;">Jennica ✿ / talk 22:01, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * You're right, there are is no a strict guideline for songs layout as opposite for the albums. However, why changing it? A song selling performance and an album selling performance is still a commercial performance IMO. And of course, there is the other section which is called Charts. I think that 'Commercial performance' sounds much more better than 'Chart performance' and I've been using it that way in all of my featured articles. (albums + songs) — Tom (T2ME) 22:07, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm with you on it. I guess I'll stop changing it for now. There's gotta be some consensus. I've seen more articles with Chart performance than Comm. --<span style="font-weight:bold;font-variant:small-caps;color:#FFFFFF;background-color:#ff8711;letter-spacing:1pt;">Jennica ✿ / talk 22:09, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
 * By the way, here's a list of all articles that contain Chart performance. Over 18,700. --<span style="font-weight:bold;font-variant:small-caps;color:#FFFFFF;background-color:#ff8711;letter-spacing:1pt;">Jennica ✿ / talk 22:39, 29 June 2017 (UTC)

WikiCup 2017 July newsletter
The third round of the competition has finished in a flurry of last minute activity, with 288 points being required to qualify for round 4. It was a hotly competitive round with all but four of the contestants exceeding the 106 points that was necessary to proceed to round 4 last year. Coemgenus and Freikorp tied on 288, and both have been allowed to proceed, so round 4 now has one pool of eight competitors and one of nine.

Round 3 saw the achievement of a 26-topic Featured topic by MPJ-DK as well as 5 featured lists and 13 featured articles. PanagiotisZois and SounderBruce achieved their first ever featured articles. Carbrera led the GA score with 10, Tachs achieved 17 DYKs and MBlaze Lightning 10 In the news items. There were 167 DYKs, 93 GARs and 82 GAs overall, this last figure being higher than the number of GAs in round 2, when twice as many people were taking part. Even though contestants performed more GARs than they achieved GAs, there was still some frustration at the length of time taken to get articles reviewed.

As we start round 4, we say goodbye to the fifteen or so competitors who didn't quite make it; thank you for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 3 but before the start of round 4 can be claimed in round 4. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them (some people have fallen foul of this rule and the points have been removed).

If you are concerned that your nomination, whether it be for a good article, a featured process, or anything else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to keep down the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 05:38, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Precious four years!
--Gerda Arendt (talk) 05:48, 19 July 2017 (UTC)

Raskit cover
Hi User:Tomica, can you get cover art for Raskit album please?--Theo Mandela (talk) 16:29, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

Rihanna... videography, list of songs recorded, etc.
User:Tomica, reverting to faulty, missing information, incorrect formatting previous edits leaves out important information out of these articles. Like in Rihanna's videography, it should be noted that the song "Who's That Chick?" has actually two music videos; reverting to your edit doesn't even specify that. On the list of songs recorded, reverting to your edits and that of User:Calvin999 has left missing songs (ex. "All of The Lights"), album credits (ex. "Hatin' on the Club") and writer credits (ex. "Just Be Happy"). I'll be avoiding this ridiculous battle of reverting edits, cause it just doesn't make sense why you guys would want articles with missing and incorrect information with un-standard formatting.Bryan McLaude (talk) 05:29, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I said you can add back missing songs, but I also said I reverted because the credits for nearly every song didn't need changing. Please read what I say in the future. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>  09:13, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, wrong formatting? You were removing formatting by last name (actually sometimes leaving it for some people and removing it for some, which was even worse). Also, you didn't put the right credits. Writers are credited differently for writing and producing and on the list we were using the writing names, something you completely changed... that tell me you were being so ignorant about the status of the list in first place. And as Calvin said, you can add separate songs on separate edits, but not completely changing stuff I pointed. — Tom (T2ME) 09:44, 5 August 2017 (UTC)

User:Calvin999, User:Tomica K.Bryan McLaude (talk) 03:40, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

User:Calvin999, User:Tomica Add writers to "Turn Up the Music" in 'List of songs recorded by Rihanna' article. I would do it myself, but since I may get reverted as soon as I make the edit, the writer credits can be found on the song article itself.Bryan McLaude (talk) 03:19, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
 * You've completely missed the point which shows you haven't paid attention to any of the warning notes. And I am not to be commanded . A 'please' or 'could you' wouldn't go amiss. — <b style="color:#595454">Calvin999</b>  09:16, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

WikiCup 2017 September newsletter
Round 4 of the WikiCup has ended and we move forward into the final round. In round 4, a total of 12 FAs, 3 FLs, 44 GAs, 3 FLs, 79 DYKs, 1 ITN and 42 GARs was achieved, with no FPs or FTs this time. Congratulations to Peacemaker67 on the Royal Yugoslav Navy Good Topic of 36 items, and the 12 featured articles achieved by Cas Liber (5), Vanamonde93 (3), Peacemaker67 (2), Adityavagarwal (1) and 12george1 (1). With a FA scoring 200 points, and bonus points available on top of this, FAs are likely to feature heavily in the final round. Meanwhile Yellow Evan, a typhoon specialist, was contributing 12 DYKs and 10 GAs, while Adityavagarwal and Freikorp topped the GAR list with 8 reviews each. As we enter the final round, we are down to eight contestants, and we would like to thank those of you who have been eliminated for the useful contributions you have made to the Cup and Wikipedia. The lowest score needed to reach round 5 was 305, and I think we can expect a highly competitive final round.

Remember that any content promoted after the end of round 4 but before the start of round 5 can be claimed in round 5. Remember too that you must claim your points within 10 days of "earning" them. If you are concerned that your nomination will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on WikiCup/Reviews Needed. It would be helpful if this list could be cleared of any items no longer relevant. If you want to help out with the WikiCup, please do your bit to reduce the review backlogs! Questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup, and the judges are reachable on their talk pages or by email. Good luck, and let the best man (or woman) win! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. Godot13, Sturmvogel 66 and Cwmhiraeth 06:26, 1 September 2017 (UTC)

Unapologetic
Hi, it seems that SummerPhDv2.0's got a sock running round as Ronz, reverting the sourced content to Unapologetic (removed pop and R&B which is sourced), you do a lot for the Rihanna can you revert their edit as they got the page locked and people can't do it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:DE55:6400:447E:DB98:E181:CB2D (talk) 19:59, 8 September 2017 (UTC)


 * The IP, of course, has been blocked as an obvious Maria sock. - Sum mer PhD v2.0 02:21, 9 September 2017 (UTC)

Could you please explain on the article talk page how the sources verify the information? I've found that the sock's assertions to be at best original research. Let's do this right given the history. --Ronz (talk) 23:05, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
 * The sock only added "dub step" which was in the source, however, it didn't describe the genre of Unapologetic as an album, but only "Jump" (one song). As for the other two sources, the genres are there:

— Tom (T2ME) 23:12, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
 * Chicago Tribune (pop) -- "“Unapologetic” is a tough listen, ostensibly a pop album from one of the biggest pop stars of our time"
 * The Observer [R&B-(pop)] -- "Her seventh album in seven years is all filthy lyrics and crashing dubstep drops: R&B-pop turned up to 11."
 * Thanks. I've copied the comments from the both of us to the article talk page. I didn't realize that this article was one of the larger battlegrounds for the socks. --Ronz (talk) 23:34, 8 September 2017 (UTC)

Legacy
About this

Merriam Webster: Definition of legacy plural legacies 1 :a gift by will especially of money or other personal property :bequest She left us a legacy of a million dollars. 2 :something transmitted by or received from an ancestor or predecessor or from the past the legacy of the ancient philosophers The war left a legacy of pain and suffering.

Dictionary.com: noun, plural legacies. 1. Law. a gift of property, especially personal property, as money, by will; a bequest. 2. anything handed down from the past, as from an ancestor or predecessor: the legacy of ancient Rome.

Cambridge Dictionary: legacy noun [ C ] UK ​ /ˈleɡ.ə.si/ US ​ /ˈleɡ.ə.si/

C2 money or property that you receive from someone after they die: An elderly cousin had left her a small legacy.

C2 something that is a part of your history or that remains from an earlier time: The Greeks have a rich legacy of literature. The war has left a legacy of hatred.

LK (talk) 13:15, 11 October 2017 (UTC)

WikiCup 2017 November newsletter: Final results
The final round of the 2017 WikiCup is over. Congratulations to the 2017 WikiCup top three finalists:
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In addition to recognizing the achievements of the top finishers and everyone who worked hard to make it to the final round, we also want to recognize those participants who were most productive in each of the WikiCup scoring categories:
 * Featured Article – Cas Liber (actually a two-way tie with themselves for an astonishing five FAs in R2 and R4).
 * Good Article – Adityavagarwal had 14 GAs promoted in R5.
 * Featured List – and  both produced 2 FLs in R2
 * Featured Pictures – improved an image to FP status in R5, the only FP this year.
 * Featured Topic – has the only FT of the Cup in R3.
 * Good Topic – Four different editors created a GT in R2, R3 and R4.
 * Did You Know – Adityavagarwal had 22 DYKs on the main page in R5.
 * In The News – had 14 ITN on the main page in R2.
 * Good Article Review – completed 31 GARs in R1.

Over the course of the 2017 WikiCup the following content was added or improved on Wikipedia: 51 Featured Articles, 292 Good Articles, 18 Featured Lists, 1 Featured Picture, 1 Featured Topics, 4 Good Topics, around 400 Did You Knows, 75 In The News, and 442 Good Article Reviews. Thank you to all the competitors for your hard work and what you have done to improve Wikipedia.

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WikiCup 2018
So the 2017 WikiCup has come to an end. Congratulations to the winner, to the other finalists and to all those who took part. 177 contestants signed up, more than usual, but not all of them submitted entries in the first round. Were editors attracted by the cash prizes offered for the first time this year, or were these irrelevant? Do the rules and scoring need changing for the 2018 WikiCup? If you have a view on these or other matters, why not join in the WikiCup discussion about next year's contest? , and. MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:59, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

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MOTW
The single release is out this friday. All the info so far makes a strong paragraph for Background. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 18:45, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * The paragraph was literally 3 sentences long. Why won't wait till Friday to see what's gonna happen and then start the article? — Tom (T2ME) 18:50, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Ah not that one, I was about to add. Fair, let's wait. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 18:54, 2 January 2018 (UTC)

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Agreed.
I do find it strange that Apple Music has a version almost the same but with a different band name and singer.

I will contact Apple to get official information to verify who a tually wrote and released it. Jason Notary 18:27, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Lol don't bother. I am pretty sure, that's a cover of "Havana", just with a different name. The writers are Camila Cabello, Jeffrey Williams, Adam Feeney, Brittany Hazzard, Ali Tamposi, Brian Lee, Andrew Watt, Pharrell Williams, Louis Bell and Kaan Gunesberk. — Tom (T2ME) 18:29, 25 January 2018 (UTC)