User talk:Tommy.Goy

Vandalising Baklava
Please stop vandalising 'Baklava' article. Baklava is not Lebanese. As the article page says, it is characteristic of the cuisines of the former Ottoman Empire / Republic of Turkey. This is a culture of Ottoman Empire. People were preparing trays of Baklava`s for the Sultans during the entertainment nights. There were even some 'Competitions of Baklava' then. Just because you call it "Baqlawa", it doesn't mean it belongs to you. It is absolutely normal Arabic/Lebanese people call it "Baqlawa" too, because Lebanon and many other Arab countries were regions of the Ottoman Empire during that time. Thanks. --Ozguroot (talk) 15:00, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm not vandalising. You are, Ozgur. I provided a source that documents that Baklava originated in 12th century Tripoli in modern-day Lebanon. The Turks, after they occupied the area, they adopted the dessert as one of their own. It was natural, from there on, to spread across the Ottoman Empire and reach Greece. The Greeks introduced it to the US through their diners, that's why it's known in the US as a Greek dessert. What do you base your facts on that it's Turkish? Tommy.Goy (talk) 18:06, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * It is not only my saying, try to see the same article with other languages here in Wikipedia. Check for the same article "Baklava" with the other languages. They all show it as "Turkish desert". Even the word "Baklava" is a Turkish word. As you call "Baqlawa", Baklava comes from the Turkish word for lozenge, originally a diamond shape. If you are the owner, then why don't you have an exclusive word of that desert not in Turkish language, but in your own language? This is not ONLY what i say, but whole the World says so. --Ozguroot (talk) 18:39, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * My dear Ozgur, lying won't get you anywhere. As we all know, many Turkish words are derived from Arabic, like Merhaba (from Marhaban), Halva (from Halwa), Timsah (from Timsah), etc. Baklava is not Turkish for "lozenge", it's actually Arabic for "nut-derived", from the root word "baqla". "Baqla" (بقلة) means nuts, and "baqlawa" (بقلاوة) is an assortment of nut-derived food, in reference to the phyllo dough laden with all sorts of nuts. When an Arabic word is transformed into Turkish, it usually undergoes a transformation such as the "d" becomes "t", the "b" becomes "p", the "w" becomes "v", which explains baklava, as opposed to the original form "baqlawa". So there! Tommy.Goy (talk) 22:35, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

My dear Tommy, My dear Ozgur, you both are lying, and yes, lying won`t get you anywhere. Baklava is neither Turkish nor Lebanese. Baklava belongs to Assyria and Assyrians. Assyria was including both Lebanon and South-East/East of Turkey (North Mesopotamia). No, Baklava is not an Arabic word. Bak-lav-a is an Assyrian/Syriac/Aramic word. Do open few books and read sometimes. They are older than Arabic. And yes, Arabic borrowed lots and lots of words from those languages. You are both just wasting your time. Nothing else. Tommy, you totally have no chance here. I've `heard` it "belongs" to Greece, Turkey even Azerbaijan, Armenia sometimes, but i NEVER EVER heard that its from lebanon. You must be joking.. but that`s not funny at all. It is widely believed that the Assyrians at around 8th century B.C. were the first people who put together a few layers of thin bread dough, with chopped nuts in between those layers, added some honey and baked it in their primitive wood burning ovens. This is the EARLIEST known version of baklava. Tommi, i am not talking about the 12th century, i am talking about 8th century B.C! It is more than clear that Assyria is the origin of the Baklava. Turkey and Greece therefore should stop this crazy Baklava war, because they both copied the dessert. And for Lebanon; Stop kidding, please.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.120.207.243 (talk) 21:41, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

I am Greek and I think this whole debate is simply STUPID. Yes, baklava is of Turkic origins. Live with it... Can't? Kill yourself, join the allied arabic league of baklava or whatever. Turkey registered Baklava in the EU too. But of course, Assyrians could kick EU's butt anyday anytime. Right? Christ... This arguement is getting old and boring... --79.166.26.195 (talk) 19:16, 27 June 2010 (UTC)