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September 2014
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Persib Bandung
Hi, I do have other articles to edit, dont worry. Reply to me what you think are not excessive, dont just delete my messages in your talkpage like usual. Also be careful with the swear words, it will not help you. Cheers! MbahGondrong (talk) 13:09, 12 October 2014 (UTC)

Talkback
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transfermarkt
Since most of its content is user-generated, transfermarkt is not a reliable source. Please do not cite it in articles, as you did with Arthur Irawan (footballer). Thank you. Sir Sputnik (talk) 16:12, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
 * I'll be honest, I don't entirely understand your question, but I can take a guess. If the article isn't appearing in a particular search, it's probably because it's you only created a few hours ago. Chances are, if you give it a bit of time, the problem will fix itself. While we're on the subject, I have to ask you for some sources. I can't find anything, listed in the article or elsewhere, to confirm the four appearances you say Irawan has made for Waasland-Beveren. Where are you getting this from? Thank you. Sir Sputnik (talk) 17:00, 15 October 2014 (UTC)

Stefano Lilipaly
Hi, sorry didnt saw the links before, thanks. I added some sources that supports his Indonesian heritage and national team debut, no so need to delete those as they need sources in the first place. For the performance at Sapporo, check here, it shows he havent made any performances yet. Cheers!! MbahGondrong (talk) 18:12, 28 October 2014 (UTC)

Thai Football
Tommy1933 has removed Season By Season Record from many articles. These sections are linked to other Wiki articles, where they are referenced/sourced by external links. He has also been removing external links to official club pages, like Facebook, which is also used as reference/source in many cases, specially when the club don`t have an official website anymore. He has also spammed articles with up to 10 "none referenced" boxes in the same article, even when the section is clearly sourced. He has visited most Thai club`s articles and destroyed them! He has destroyed in a few days what many editors have used years to build. An this without any valid reason! Tommy1933 has destroyed Wiki for me, as I`m not interested in editing when people like him can destroy it all with help and support from other users who thinks they are "God". I will use all my effort to get Tommy1933 banned from Wiki, and will ask all other editors of Thai football on Wiki to do the same. There`s no point to continue edit articles when people like Tommy1933 is around! SveinFalk (talk) SveinFalk (talk) 06:40, 29 October 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi again! SveinFalk I don't vandalising, I remove because that does not any references, and i just needs verification, you can add material, but only with reliable sources, and I do it, not in only Thai football pages, you can see my old contributions. And Facebook can't be sourced or referenced. --Tommy (talk) 07:43, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

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October 2014
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 * Seriously, i don't know even, maybe i no see (not intentionally). --Tommy Syahputra (talk) 19:22, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

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2015 AFC Cup
Dear Tommy, I reverted your edit as the Singapore 2014 S.League was won by the Warriors football team, you decided to revert this to be precise when it was factually wrong...hence why i put it right.... please in the future check your edits before you save them as this causes many headaches with users having to do the same edit twice. Druryfire (talk) 18:24, 1 November 2014 (UTC)

Okay, Thankyou, Druryfire. -- Tommy Syahputra (talk) 06:27, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Administrator's noticeboard
Hi, I have some questions for you here. Please answer them. --Richard Yin (talk) 01:46, 2 November 2014 (UTC)


 * I've gave the reason. -- Tommy Syahputra (talk) 06:28, 2 November 2014 (UTC)

Persija Jakarta
The info in the lead para and body of text is inadequately referenced - no where near the standards that wp:en has for WP:RS and verifiable information. Please do not revert tags like that, unless you add more WP:CITE citations that can clarify where the article is coming from satusuro 07:30, 3 November 2014 (UTC)

2015 Indonesia Super League
Consider this a warning next revert will be reported. The link is redundant as it is already mentioned in Season statistics. Cheers!! MbahGondrong (talk) 17:21, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok!, I had not seen it. Tommy Syahputra (talk) 17:50, 7 November 2014 (UTC)

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2014 AFF Championship
Stop putting spaces for the scores! It's against the Manual of Style. It also looks bad and disjointed when you add spacing! Mas y mas (talk) 14:39, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

You can say that it doesn't look bad, but it's against Wiki Manual of Style!! I will revert your edit one last time but if you continue to be disruptive, you will be reported! Mas y mas (talk) 15:05, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

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PCUpdate and NTUpdate
Hi, I see that you are constantly editing the national caps for Indonesian national team. You should use five ~ signs to make the dates automatically in a standard format. It will be shown like this:' 15:07, 29 November 2014 (UTC) ', hope it helps. Cheers! MbahGondrong (talk) 15:07, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
 * Ok, thank you. Tommy Syahputra (talk) 15:12, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Source
Stop making edits that are based on rumours. Thank you. --Lipik (talk) 16:27, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Which are rumors on?

Maybe on Martin Vunk? Uh, that is not rumors. I think i don't to do so. - Tommy Syahputra (talk) 05:58, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

TV Photos
Hi, I appreciate your effort to add photos to wikipedia for some articles, but your low quality photos that are taken from TV broadcasts or posters could be a problem for the admins here. Better stop it and make your own pictures by make your own real photos. I think you put enough pictures in the Persib article, Wikipedia is a encyclopedia not a picture album. Cheers! MbahGondrong (talk) 18:04, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
 * No problem, though low quality, but it's better than nothing at all. Of their notable players.

And that's are not from posters or TV photos. - Tommy Syahputra (talk) 05:52, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
 * People are not stupid okay, it can be seen if its photographed from a TV. Im just saying it could be a problem in the future for some admins here and maybe all can be deleted. Just dont want you to feel disappointed again about stuffs you edited here and got deleted. Dont take it personally. Cheers!! MbahGondrong (talk) 23:35, 5 December 2014 (UTC)

Indonesian task force
Hallo Tommy, I have made a nomination to make an Indonesian task force for football. The reason for it is to gather some active wikipedia users to improve the articles related to Indonesian football such as competitions, clubs, players and other related articles. The link for the nomination is here. As you have contributed before for Indonesian football articles, I hope you can contribute to the discussions. Thank you. Cheers!! MbahGondrong (talk) 02:30, 6 December 2014 (UTC)


 * There are other discussions in here and here. Cheers!! MbahGondrong (talk) 02:46, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi Tommy, just a reminder to support the task force proposal if you are interested. Click here to support. Happy editing!! MbahGondrong (talk) 20:18, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

2015 Indonesia Super League
Hi, as I mentioned before there is a new football table template that is being use as the standar format which is Module:Sports table. Learn it!!

If other leagues in Asia doesnt use that and you make that as an excuse to not implement it in ISL 2015 its definitely wrong, Indonesian football articles is a project from Wikiproject Football and have to follow accordingly. I dont have the obligations to change all other leagues using the new template and if you are willing, be my guest to change them as long as you follow WP:MOS.

I thought you learned already that wrongs on other pages doesnt make a justification to make Indonesian articles wrong like them. I hope you understand the arguments that I explained here. Consider this a first warning regarding your reverts in 2015 Indonesia Super League page. Cheers!! MbahGondrong (talk) 19:06, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

My Reverts
Firstly, I saw that you added AFC competition sections in several clubs. I want to point out that, those are the stuffs that makes the Indonesian articles doesnt comply with Wikipedia rules. You can see here that mentioned 'Most articles are far too large with too much repetition'. Please take that into consideration when editing. A long article does NOT mean it is a good article. Even for Persib Bandung, actually the Asia Champions League honour should be gone as being a quarterfinalist does not even qualify as an honour. An honour is counted if you are champion, runner-up or third place. If you disagree with me, we have to discuss about this and try to find a solution, hopefully we can solve this with a clear head.

Second, please dont forget to add sources IN the article when you edit pages, dont put it in edit summaries. You asked others to add source to articles they edit but if you yourself not doing it, it is not cool at all. One last advice, there are other constructive editing that could be done in Wikipedia then only adding caps and statistics such as more text contents that could make the article more encyclopedic and doesnt look like a database. Cheers!! MbahGondrong (talk) 18:23, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Religion & Sources
Dear Tommy1933 I removed several players from the Persib Bandung that you had but into Category:Indonesian Muslims because I couldn't initially find any sources or references about their faith. While most players on the squad probably are Muslim Wikipedia needs reliable sources and not pure speculation because of their ethnicity or names. Like wise many Indonesian footballers who are from Bali are often placed in Category:Indonesian Hindus without any references and players who are Papuan are often placed in Category:Indonesian Christians without any reference as well. Thank You very much & happy editing.Inter&#38;anthro (talk) 02:07, 17 December 2014 (UTC)

Updating articles
Hi, I want to ask you one more time to not just put the sources as an edit summaries. The article will be better if there are text informations inside to make it encyclopedic. It would be great if you could not only update the infobox but add some materials adding the source to the article. I believe with your professional level of english that you stated in your user page that wont be a big problem. One other thing is to always use En-dashes. Cheers!! MbahGondrong (talk) 22:17, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
 * Yes I know that, but I'm so lazy, so i just added source on the summaries. Cheers! Tommy Syahputra (talk) 05:00, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

Diego Mendieta
Hi, before letting you know why I reverted your edit in Diego Mendieta, I want to thank you for giving the source for his number that was retired. I used it also for the Persebaya article (for Eri Irianto). As I always said to you, sources are needed if not then new unsourced informations will be deleted.

The reason for the revert of Mendieta's article is that he already passed away and I dont think new sources about his youth career or caps and goals with Persis will be available, thats why I removed them. As for the text "the Surakarta-based breakway Liga Indonesia Premier Division club", I removed it because it can be seen as not neutral, thus violating WP:NEUTRAL, a simple explanation that he played before for Persis is enough. It's also not considered flowery-words. For the birth date you should use the template which I already put there. If you still have question about it, let me know.

Lastly, try to use the En-Dash like – for separation of years in infoboxes and use the five '~' for the pcupdate or ntupdate row. Thanks and cheers!! MbahGondrong (talk) 00:48, 23 December 2014 (UTC)

Happy New Year Tommy1933!


Happy New Year! Tommy1933, Have a prosperous, productive and enjoyable New Year, and thanks for your contributions to Wikipedia. --L235 (talk) Ping when replying 05:55, 1 January 2015 (UTC)

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November 2016
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Please do not
delete articles with valid information for 2016, and replace with 2017 information.

At least give the article a date and create a new article with the new date!!! JarrahTree 12:10, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

I have reverted both the articles - please not remove material that way again - create a new one with the new year, please JarrahTree 12:14, 27 February 2017 (UTC)

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Ways to improve Asnawi Mangkualam
Hi, I'm Winged Blades of Godric. Tommy1933, thanks for creating Asnawi Mangkualam!

I've just tagged the page, using our page curation tools, as having some issues to fix. ok!

The tags can be removed by you or another editor once the issues they mention are addressed. If you have questions, you can leave a comment on my talk page. Or, for more editing help, talk to the volunteers at the Teahouse.

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