User talk:Tommy2010/Archive 8

Vandal
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:96.232.201.195

that user already went through their warnings, and proceeded to do this: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Alec_Sulkin&oldid=382731144

(note the "take on meee. take on me. taake me on. take me on. ill be goneeeee. take on me. do-do-do-do dooooooooooooooooooooooooo")

bantime?
 * Hi there. I re-warned the user. Warnings over a day or so old are considered obsolete, simply because the IP may be shared by many people on a network with many computers. If it is persistent, a block will be issued. Thanks for the notice, Tom my! 23:04, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

DYK - Censorship in Spain
Hello! Your submission of Article at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know!
 * Just a hint that if you'd like to write an article about censorship in Spain, as opposed to one dealing with almost wholly unrelated issues, one good starting point would be the Encyclopedia of Censorship, p. 538-47 (561-70 in the PDF file). Good luck! - Biruitorul Talk 15:37, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks, but at the moment I'm a bit preoccupied with school and i feel a little lost what to remove or modify. Tom my! 23:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks...
...for watching over my user talk recently. I know it just takes a click, but I do appreciate the help. See ya 'round  Tide  rolls  16:27, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No problem, TR. :) Tom my! 11:34, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Hi
Since, for some reason I can't figure out, I have nothing to work on, I thought I'd pop in and say hi. Don't expect this to be a normal thing; it's very lucky that I was able to get on today. How are you? The Utahraptor&#39;s sock (talk) 21:25, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Heh, alright. how's school? Tom my! 11:34, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Pretty good. I've been pretty busy lately. Thankfully it's Labor Day weekend, so I actually have time to check Wikipedia. Probably won't be able to check in again for a while. The Utahraptor&#39;s sock (talk) 20:26, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

Khalid ibn Walid
Dear Tommy,

I've recently edited the section on Khalid ibn Walid regarding his honorable discharge from military and in this section, there is some factual inaccuracy. As an islamic historian and muslim, I feel that the information there is factually incorrect and based on vague and unsubstantiated sources which conflict with the sources available in the middle east regarding the relationship between Umar and Khalid. In particular, there is no evidence whatsoever that the story told about the argument between Umar and Khalid was ever documented or occured, and the evidence is actually to the contrary which shows that they held a close relationship and were very good friends.

I would therefore ask you to reinstate the changes I have made recently which you dismissed, as I feel that you are misleading less informed readers by keeping this story as it is, and tarnishing the name of two of Islam's greatest heros. Please feel free to check my information against other sources if you feel this is neccessary.

Yours sincerely Mr. Ahmed Abdulkarim


 * Hi there and thanks for the sincere message. If you believe there is a problem that needs correcting, be sure to leave an informative edit summary, right above the "Save page" button. This lets other editors know the intent of the edit so that such good faith edits are not reverted as vandalism. You can undo the changes by clicking "View History" and then clicking "Undo" next to Tommy2010 at the top. Thanks again, Tom my! 23:51, 5 September 2010 (UTC)

Barn star! Barn star!

 * Why thank you! Tom my! 23:43, 6 September 2010 (UTC)

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Out of retirement
I thought I would let you know that I've decided to return to Wikipedia, only in a semi-retired state instead of completely retired. Life has somewhat settled down for me, and since I'm ditching pre-calculus I'll have a little more free time on my hands. The Raptor You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 01:05, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * ah I see. I took precalc in HS. Now i just need to relearn alg 1 and geometry for my grad school exam.. ha. are you a senior? Tom my! 02:08, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm a junior. I'll probably switch to college prep math, which is a step down from pre-calculus, then I'll take pre-cal next year when I'm a senior. The Raptor  You rang?/My mistakes; I mean, er, contributions 02:54, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, unless youre going into physics, engineering or math, don't waste your time. Tom my! 03:12, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Spanish profanity
Sorry, I don't know if this is the correct place to leave a message for Tommy2010. I just wanted to tell you that my modification to the article "Spanish profanity" was a real contribution, can't be considered as a vandalism, the few details that I added or changed were correct, in the information was some mistakes and I just made it right. Greetings, Silvia. 4
 * Hi there. Alright thank you. For something like that, that can be conceived as vandalism, you might want to provide a reference, although I should have probably read your edit summary better. Thanks, Tom my! 23:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)

RfA thanks spam


Hello Tommy2010, thank you for supporting my RfA! I was promoted with a final tally of 65/4/3. I hope I can live up to everyone's expectations, do my best for Wikipedia, and take to heart the constructive criticism. Always feel free to message me if I'm around. Magog the Ogre (talk) 11:18, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Look forward to it. Cheers, Tom my! 15:32, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

Re: MLS
Actually, no, it WAS constructive, you just gave me a two second opportunity to finish what I was doing. I'm trying to get "MLS" to go to Major League Soccer, and for that I need a page specifically titled "(disambiguation)" to do so. Does that sound okay? There was no specific MLS-abbreviated page that it already went straight to with a "This page is about the _____. For other uses, see..." at the top. I don't see a single thing wrong with that. Oh, and "disambig pages never have disambiguation in the title"? Uh-huh. Akyoyo94 (talk) 23:26, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Ya, sorry for that misinformation. However, I think MLS should stay the same; there is a lot of stuff on it. Cheers Tom my! 23:31, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Let me make it clear that I shouldn't have reverted without a summary. Tom my! 13:01, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Tommy, you removed my valid contructive criticism here with the summary: 'If you can't take constructive criticism then maybe vandal fighting isn't for you.' might I suggest you take your own advice. I took your criticism on board, and replied maturely explaining my actions. Also see WP:TPO - a basic rule of Wikipedia talk pages is to not delete other's posts without their permission  J e b u s 9 8 9  ✰ 13:21, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * Uh, no comment on the wider issue, but the relevant part of the talkpage guidelines is WP:OWNTALK - editors may remove posts on their own talkpages. TFOWR 13:24, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

&larr; Since there's been disagreement and flip-flopping in the past (circa 2006), this really ought be done via WP:RM - not to mention the attribution issue that is created by cut-and-paste move of the dab page. – xeno talk 13:27, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * That's interesting, there does seem to be some contradiction between these two guidelines  J e b u s 9 8 9  ✰ 13:52, 14 September 2010 (UTC) edit: actually I see TPO agrees with OWNTALK later on:

Personal talk page cleanup: On your own user talk page, you may archive threads at your discretion. Simply deleting others' comments on your talk page is permitted, but archiving is strongly preferred. Many new users believe they can hide critical comments by deleting them. This is not true: Such comments can always be retrieved from the page history. Removal of a comment is taken as proof that the user has read it.  J e b u s 9 8 9  ✰ 13:58, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * WP:TPO and WP:OWNTALK are shortcuts to different sections on the same page. So yes, the section you quote above is the section I linked to with WP:OWNTALK. Not a big deal, just felt it was worth explaining as it sometimes seems like there are a lot of policies, guidelines, etc but half the time they're the same ;-) TFOWR 15:18, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Jeebus, do not undo an edit on my talk page, per talk page guidelines; continuing to do it can be considered harassment. Also, the only reason why you're making such a big deal of one revert is because I told you to slow down because you made a blatant mistake as a result of going too fast. Let me also make it clear that I don't like burning bridges and making things hostile here but you were going extremely fast, arguably one of the fastest reverts I've ever seen (maybe except for L Kensington, the guys gotta be a superhuman). Speed alone isn't a bad thing but mistakes happen, especially for inexperienced users and you took that criticism to heart. This is why I told you if you cant take constructive criticism, then huggle may not be for you. Now I've moved on (as I always do) but you need to drop the stick. I'd also like to say that I screwed up heavily when I was new with Huggle and since then I've learned and grew and I can see you doing the same, but if you have a problem with what I've told you, you should ask in your own topic here and not indulge yourself in issues that don't pertain to you. By the way, I am well versed in WP:VAND. Thanks, Tom my! 15:10, 14 September 2010 (UTC)


 * I haven't undone any edits on your talk page. Check your talk page history before making such claims. I revert fast because I stick to blatant vandalism, it takes a millisecond to recognise 'pen*s' is out of place in an article about tomatoes, for example. The revert you criticised on was removed from the page history along with the original vandalism, so I am unable to comment on it. The subtle patronisation about being inexperienced is unnecessary, I've been editing here for some years longer than you. This issue did pertain to me, I take an interest in vandalism and it's a misuse of rollback, and if you're well versed in the vandalism guidelines then you realise you made a mistake here. I asuggest next time you misuse rollback you should apologise to the user and remove the vandalism warning (which is still there and another user has since commented on it, requesting it to be removed due to being placed there wrongly)  J e b u s 9 8 9  ✰ 15:21, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
 * The only "misuse" of rollback was failing to leave an edit summary, which I'm usually keen on for non vandal edits. Bare in mind Huggle is not designed for blatant vandalism, if you haven't noticed (hence the drop down arrow next to Warn + revert), as part of Ignore all rules. This is going on a tangent, but I'm really sick of users complaining about "misuse" of rollback because  it wasn't "blatant vandalism." There are many valid reasons to revert edits that aren't blatant vandalism. WP:ROLLBACK is just a guideline, although of course I too aim to revert only vandalism.  Now I'm done talking about this.  Tom my! 15:28, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

RE: Jeffree Star Revert
Re: Jeffree Star Revert. You should do your research and understand that Jeffree star was never actually interviewed by LA Weekly and the citation of the source is linked to a false page created to imitate LA Weekly's Website, and if you attempt to follow a link directly from that page, you will receive an error message, indicating that the page is not an actual site, but a substitution.


 * So, why did you replace it with '/'? If you want it deleted, we can find out more information. Tom my! 23:33, 12 September 2010 (UTC)

Howard King wiki
Hi. I've seen that you have edited the content of the Wiki of referee Howard King.

I have meant to take the time to edit that wiki once and for all, but I have been busy. I will try to update it once I have some free time, which i expect will be this friday.

Howard King's claims regarding him accepting bribery were considered unfounded by UEFA on the 20th of March 1997 according to this link in flemish:

http://users.skynet.be/Crystal/specials/SP4.htm

"De  sportieve groei van de ploeg werd naar de achtergrond verdrongen. Plannen om met   RSC Anderlecht naar de beurs te gaan werden uitgesteld. De hoofdsponsor, de   Generale Bank, dreigde af te haken maar zette de samenwerking uiteindelijk toch   verder op voorwaarde dat er naast Anderlecht-Nottingham geen dergelijke affaires   zouden opduiken. Elst stelde ook nog een deel andere wedstrijden in een kwaad   daglicht. Elst zou ook de scheidsrechter Keith Hackett benaderd  hebben voor de   wedstrijd tegen Banik Ostrava, in oktober 1983. Ook de wedstrijd RSC   Anderlecht-Malmö van september 1987 kwam in negatieve zin ter sprake nadat de   Welshe scheidsrechter Howard King  eind 1995 voor 400.000 frank het verhaal van   carrière uit de doeken deed aan het Boulevardblad News of the World. Daarin   vermelde King allerlei geknoei rond Europese wedstrijden, waaronder ook RSC   Anderlecht-Malmö.De   UEFA onderzocht de zaak, maar beschouwde ze op 20 maart 1997 als afgedaan, er   vanuitgaande dat Howard King zijn fantasie de vrije loop had laten gaan in ruil   voor een pak geld. "

Where the most correct translation to english of the excerpt wanted in that link states:

"The sportive growth of the team was pushed to the background. Plans to go to the stock exchange with RSCA Anderlecht were postponed. The main  sponsor, the "Generale Bank", threatened to discontinue their   cooperation, but in the end they continued on condition that no more   affairs other than Anderlecht- Nottingham would surface. Elst also   talked about other soccer games. He was supposed to have talked to   referee Keith Hackett before the match against Branik Ostrawa in october   1983. Also the game between Anderlecht and Malmo was talked about   in a negative way after the Welsh referee Howard King told the story of   his career for 400 000 franks to the tabloid News of the World   at the end of 1995. He told about messing with European games, including   Anderlecht-Malmo. UEFA investigated the case, but at 20 march 1997 closed it, because there was nothing that supported his claims, supposing Howard King used his fantasy for a lot of money".

There are also claims from Caen players that he smelled of alcohol during they're European game against Zaragoza, there are links to that on the french wiki.

I have been editing the english wiki of Howard King because I consider claiming that him being suspended, when UEFA found he just made everything up, inexact. If he accepted vice girls, there should have been clubs punished, fact that didn't happen. Which also doesn't correspond to the treatment of other cases of corruption dealt by UEFA. I consider that walesonline just misinterpreted the information they gave, I even tried to contact them, to clear everything out, once and for all, but did not get an answer. And it is the only, press information about him getting suspended, at least on the web.

Hope you understand, sorry for the inconvenience, and if you need anymore information regarding Howard King I will be glad to help.


 * Um wow. That's a lot of information. I only reverted because you removed sourced content. If you believe it shouldn't be in Wikipedia, simply remove it again but explain why in the Edit summary, above the "Save Page" button. Thanks for contributing, Tom my! 01:34, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Just updated the wiki with the information I gave above. Hope it doesn't get vandalized...

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 * Interesting to see where PC ends up. Tom my! 20:50, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Did you notice...
...that I was gone? Nice to see you are still alive, putting vandals in a massive bear-Huggle (insert rim shot). I figured a couple weeks break might be healthy, so I took a little breather. Even though I don't like to waste my edits with small-talk, I don't think my computer could handle IRC right now, and I just wanted to know how you were doing. So, how are ya? (and how often are you on IRC?) finalius? indeed! I'm back! 22:32, 13 September 2010 (UTC) PS, about your Plaza article: In the design section, would "rectangle" or "rhombus" be better than "irregular square"? Or is that more fitting? finalius? indeed! I'm back!
 * Why yes of course :). Im alright, 5 spanish courses takes its toll but it's not difficult by any means. Im on IRC all the time, highly recommend it. There is a anti vandalism channel i frequent that stalks 4chan and certain edit summaries that's really helpful. Huggle users and admins are in it so it's very useful. Regarding the Plaza Mayor article, it's an irregular square. Nice to hear from you, Tom my! 23:49, 13 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks

 * Thanks Thing :) Tom my! 19:59, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks so much
For the lovely support Tommy and for not sitting on the fence :):) It mattered too much. Sincerely   Wifione    .......  Leave a message  14:56, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

atheist becomes devotee
'‘chaitanya-mangala’ shune yadi pashandi, yavana seha maha-vaishnava haya tatakshana If even a great atheist hears Shri Chaitanya-mangala (previous name for Shri Chaitanya-bhagavata), he immediately becomes a great devotee. So all the great atheists which comprise of 99.99% of the world’s population can become maha-vaishnavas if they get the supreme good fortune of reading this book. Thus in my personal opinion, when this book is published and distributed in mass quantities all over the world, it will break open the gates of the flood of the love of Godhead brought by Lord Chaitanya and His associates and will hasten the advent of the predicted Golden Age in all its glory.'Vedic cosmology - planetarium
 * Please see WP:MOS Tom my! 15:38, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Disaccomplishment
Looks like its quite rare as i couldnt find any entries even in Oxford Dictionary but its used "in the wild". All i know is that its a far better fitting translation to the german word "schaffen" that is best translated to "accompishing". guess if your level english is 5, like you point out with ur bable-button, mine ist 6 :p. Greets from Berlin --78.52.194.133 (talk) 16:39, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I applaud the effort you do, but on the bigger picture, even if it does make the German translation better, "disaccomplishment" in English is so rarely used (not to mention I couldn't find it on dictionary.com either), that it's virtually meaningless in English... so then we're back at square one ;). Good effort, but I think the other versions are better, even if it is not exact. Some times phrases in other languages cannot be exactly translated in another. cheers, Tom my! 16:42, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

tlakbcak :)
Here's the only new, improved Finalius!
 * Ok, NOW there is. Here's the only new, improved Finalius!
 * Splendiful! yes I just made that up! Tom my! 20:29, 16 September 2010 (UTC)

Many thanks indeed...
... for your fine nomination. I reply in a bit more detail on my talk page. Yet again, thanks for your good opinion of me, and I wish you outstanding good fortunes, always! Jusdafax  05:50, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

RE: Magnet school status
Hi Tommy!

Here's the information from the U.S. Dept. of Education's web page RE: Magnet school status, and the difference between these types of institutions vs. non-magnet status public schools.

http://www2.ed.gov/parents/schools/choice/definitions.html#ms

Thanks!
 * Yup, I self reverted after I looked up the wiki link you provided. Thanks for contributing,  Tom my! 17:49, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Peter Wegner
So I keep running into vandal issues with this as I am prob doing something wrong. Essentially I have created a page for an artist named Peter Wegner and the search instantly directs the viewer to a scientist named Peter Wegner. I am trying to make a disambiguous page that would have both artist and scientist on there so one article doesn't receive more attention than the other. How would I do this?

Thanks
 * Replied on your talk. Tom my! 18:11, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Talk page revert
I don't know why that IP chose my page, of all people. I have an inkling that it relates to NSD, but I'm not sure (meaing seeing the link through his talk). Anyways, thanks for the revert. Buggie111 (talk) 23:24, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Meh it's just a troll. Surprised he's not hard blocked. Anyways no problemo Tom my! 23:27, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
Hehe, thank you. And the same for you, you also do awesome work with huggle. :)

Dear Tommy
This is a Public Library Web Acces computer, the IP you registered is from a mainframe, we don't know who the vandalizer of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portugal is.

All the best!
 * I'm sorry, specifically regarding which edit? Tom my! 16:58, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

Medal

 * =O Thank you!! Tom my! 21:01, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Koi Article
The section removed from the Koi article was not intended to be 'vandalism'. In prior discussion on the talk pages, several users felt that information was excessive and deemed it to be unnecessary and questioned its relevance to the article itself. In terms of consistency with other Species articles, 'comparison' sections or 'differences' sections typically do not exist.
 * Please provide an edit summary then. Although, I don't agree with that decision, it contains information which is exactly encyclopedic. Tom my! 21:49, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * There was an RFC in the Talk pages. Prior to the suggestions being changed, those particular sections were archived http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Koi/Archive_1#Origins_of_Koi_vs._Origins_of_Goldfish.  That being said, I'm not strongly inclined either way to remove the information or leave it in.  I simply wanted to let you know that my attempted edits were meant to be constructive, and not intended to vandalize the page.  Thanks. 153.48.52.241 (talk) 21:57, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * That's fine, thanks. Tom my! 21:59, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

About vandalism
Is this edit vandalism?  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   22:32, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Yes, it's nonsense. Replied on your talk. Tom my! 22:41, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry for reverting the edit that wasn't vandalism.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   21:38, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

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jake robinson
wy have you removed me editing my own page?

Cookie for you
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 * gracias Tom my! 22:46, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

your welcome.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   23:14, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

Thanks
For the revert on my talk page. I thought it might actually be something important, but all I got was this vandalism BS (again). Thanks for reverting it! Tyrol5  [Talk]  01:01, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Blocked as an open proxy for 3 months. It's a long term vandal. --Bsadowski1 01:02, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Trolls. Can't live with 'em, can't kill em. (Stolen from this movie =]) Tom my! 01:03, 22 September 2010 (UTC)

I understand that posting numbers of Serb refugees who fled from Kosovo isn't quite appropriate, so I'm giving you this link as a reference.109.111.231.92 (talk) 16:04, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Vandal
Hi! Thanks for catching the vandalism to  my user page. I was already reverting  it so  there was an edit  conflict. It sas a particulaly nasty case of vandalism and the first time my page has ever been vandalised. Thanks again for your vigilance. I ope to  return the favour  sometime - hopefully not  for vandalism.--Kudpung (talk) 16:37, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Air Mekong
Hi,

I noticed you'd reverted a link to http://www.airmekong.com.vn as spam on this article. It appears to be the official website, so it seems a bit harsh to call it spam. I shall however warn the contributor about COI with their choice of name... Thanks Fæ (talk) 17:47, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Spam, COI, soliciting one's own website.. basically the same. Not stressing myself out worrying about the small technical differences. Tom my! 17:48, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * I'm sure you have a point. Inclusion in the article does in fact meet the guidance of WP:EL so it cannot be considered vandalism even if you believe that this user's choice of account name is of concern under the COI guidelines. I have no intention of stepping on your heels, so I'll take the article off my watch-list and leave it to your discretion. Fæ (talk) 18:00, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up, (although i never said that was vandalism). Tom my! 18:01, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

About vandalism
Is this edit vandalism?  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   17:56, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No. In fact, that IP was right-- Wikipedia is not censored. Tom my! 17:58, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * Oops.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   17:59, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
 * No biggie, just remove the warning. Tom my! 17:59, 24 September 2010 (UTC)

I removed it.  Wayne Olajuwon  chat   18:10, 24 September 2010 (UTC)