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Al Hidayah (Organisation)
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re: Comments on my talk page.
Walaikum salam akhi,

I have to say I was a bit shocked by your message to me. Please refrain from comments such as "what is wrong with you," "what is your problem," and "you need to be more open minded". The official No personal attacks and Civility policies are relevant here.

As far as me supposedly editing pages in reference to him "in a negative manner" and that he "challenges my point of view" I believe you need to review the [Wikipedia:Assume good faith behavioral guideline.

In regard to you not letting me or anyone else edit certain pages, I believe you need to review the official Ownership of articles policy. We are all free to help improve upon this site and it is not for an editor to decide who else is allowed to edit or not.

Now, the meat of the issue, honestly I did not know that. I have never heard of him before you created the article on him, was not aware that the "head of al-Azhar" holds him in such high esteem or that one scholar from Deoband respects him. Obviously he is notable enough to warrant his own article as I have seen the number of books he has authored and his activities in da'wah, but that he is one of "the greatest scholars of this time" is an opinion, and there are a number of present day scholars who have recieved more coverage and thus are more notable, and this goes double for both Br. Tahir and others in regard to the scholars of the past.

In short, I think you should step back for a bit and relax. Nobody is trying to attack the man, we are just trying to keep things neutral. MezzoMezzo 23:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Reconsidering
I've done some thinking over the weekend and decided that perhaps I was too flippant with you before. Here are some of the issues at hand.

Template:Muslim scholars in its current state is unorganized and seems to have some odd criteria. I will consent to moving this to its discussion page where we can go down the list of more recent scholars and discuss their notability. What I will need from you are second hand sources of Dr. Qadri's notability - i.e., not from his own website or sites of his organizations. See if you can get me some articles from sources like the BBC, maybe some major Pakistani papers demonstrating how publicly visible he is. After that we need to discuss others on or not on the list as well. I think the main criteria should not be what "school of thought" someone is, but rather their being recognized as having scholarly knowledge in some way. Ayatollah Sistani, for example, is controversial due to his positions but his knowledge is not disputed, so in his case I think he belongs on the list. Hisham Kabbani on the otherhand is disputed knowledge wise and I would argue that he shouldn't be on the list (just using him as one example of someone who is disputed, not attacking the man personally). We should also keep it on that discussion page in case anyone else wants to jump in as well.

In regard to Dr. Qadri's book, my main issue isn't that it isn't notable but rather that it isn't a Secondary source; it is a Tertiary source. It is still a valid source of information but histriographically speaking, it's a different kind of source. I think a review of the terminology on the links I provided there might help.

Please let me know what you think of my suggestions and hopefully we can accomplish more working with one another. MezzoMezzo 16:48, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Don't worry about it, I was short with you as well. I think the best place to put those sources is on the actual talk page for the template, that way other people may see them as well.


 * In regard tp Dr. Qadri's collection of hadith, it may be a non-issue because I put another suggestion on the talk page for the list of sunni texts page. The page sort of just looks like a big long list to me and may be better at a category than a page.  As for the template on hadith collections, while it's newer than the others it's still a hadith collection with its own article so in retrospect I think I may have been too short with deleting it before. MezzoMezzo 16:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

help needed
i need ur Help in Maintaining truth on WIKI pages related to sufism and sunniyat. Like Barelwi page on which vandalism is always caused by MEZZO MEZZO .Msoamu 17:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Please do not accuse good-faith edits of being vandalism Msoamu, as this is a violation of both the No personal attacks policy and the Assume good faith behavioral guideline. Hassen, I am sorry that this user is now harassing you about this as well. MezzoMezzo 19:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Muslim scholars template
I added Dr. Qadri and did some other work in the way of adding birthdates, putting scholars in chronological order, etc. Let me know what you think. For the hadith collections template, I think we should be able to knock that one out soon as well inshaAllah. Get back to me when you get the chance. MezzoMezzo 03:27, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Well, if you're ok with its current version I guess it's good to go. If not, just make any changes you feel would improve it.  As far as placing it on the pages for individual scholars, that's a formatting thing that needs to be looked at for each article.  Some of them might have other templates that could make the page bloated; i'm still learning about this myself so your guess is as good as mine.  The Manual of Style has a lot of information that can help. MezzoMezzo 18:40, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

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Vandalism at Islam
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 * How dare you accuse me of vandalism, I removed un-needed, biased and quite incorrect information from the Islam page and you cannot ever block me in any way no matter how hard you try. Hasseniqbal192 11:34, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Help
As You edit some part of Mawlid Page plz help in making Consensus that it is celebrated in most of the Muslim Countries.You are also requested to give Your remarks hopefully they will be Positive regarding the headings about ifferent Countriies here.plz help .Shabiha 20:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

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Use of Shaykh Abdel Hakim Murad photo
Asalaam Alaikum.

My university Islamic society is going to be hosting a talk by Shaykh Abdel Hakim Murad. Can I possibly use the photo you uploaded of him for publicity purposes?

Jazak'Allah. (No profits will be made from the talk or the use of your photo)M2k41 20:58, 9 November 2007 (UTC)


 * I'm so Sorry for my late reply as I have been quite Ill for a month and have been away from the computer. Of course you can use the photograph for advertising your event and publicity purposes. I hope your event is successful. Ma'sallaamaHasseniqbal192 11:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

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London Meetup - January 12, 2008
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Kind Words
Salaam brother. jazak'Allah for your kind words, it seems from some of the posts later down on your talk page you talk to the entire world as though you are a supreme being.

Once again, please read the personal attacks and civility policies, or how about actually attending a real Sunni gathering and hearing what the REAL, AUTHORISED, SUNNI scholars have to say on the topic of character.

www.dawateislami.net

Fi'iman il Llah wa Rasuli —Preceding unsigned comment added by MuhammadYusufAttari (talk • contribs) 20:03, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

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Invitation to Wikipedia meetup in London


Date: 13:00 onwards, Sunday 10 August 2008

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Hello,

I noticed that you have listed yourself as a Wikipedian in London, so I thought you might like to come to one of our monthly social meetups. The next one is going to be on Sunday 10 August, which might well be rather short notice, but if you can't come this time, we try to have one every second Sunday of the month.

If you haven't been before, these meetups are mainly casual social events for Wikipedia enthusiasts in which we chat about Wikipedia and any other topics we fancy. It's a great way to meet some very keen Wikipedians, but we'd also love for you to come along if you're interested in finding out more about Wikipedia, other Wikimedia projects, or other collaborative wiki projects too.

The location is a pub that is quite quiet and family friendly on a Sunday lunchtime, so hopefully younger Wikipedians will also feel welcome and safe. Alcohol consumption is certainly not required!

Although the meetups are popular, many UK-based editors still don't know about them. It would be great to welcome some fresh faces, so I hope you can come along.

Yours,

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Please forgive the slightly impersonal mass-invite!

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Mecca
Hassen, how to move the Mecca into Makkah? Because the Islam organisation says, Mecca had translation to Simple ENglish is The champagne house. Muhraz (talk) 06:26, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

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London Wikimedia Fundraiser
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Hope we'll see you there, (and apologies for the talk page spam) - Chase me ladies, I&#39;m the Cavalry (talk) 22:56, 12 December 2010 (UTC)

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Join us at FB
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reply
Aslam o Alikum here i recieved your message.i respect your contributation.Dear user.he is barelvi.it is proved from his books.Ilm al-Ghayb (Book on the Knowledge of the Unseen).al-Mawlid an-Nabawiyy ([blessings and peace be upon him)] Celebration of Mawlid] The largest ever written work on this subject, consisting of approximately 850 pages).Kitab at-Tawassul (Book on Intermediation).Kitab ash-Shafaa (Book on Intercession).Kitab al-Baraka (Book on Blessings).Kitab az-Ziyara (Book on Visiting the Graves).not even this He is linked to Imam Ahmad Raza Khan via only one teacher through three different routes .and you can see Sir Tahir ul Qadri celebrating milad in newpapers.these are fundandamental beliefs of only only barelvi.and dont remove it without some proper source.it is against guidelines. Dil e Muslim  talk  17:15, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

edit wars
i already warned you here that you are engaged in edit war on this page.

this is my last version in which i discribed that Tahir ul qadri is Barelvi

now about sources he is a true and solid Barelvi.
 * i gave you refrence no 7 from a tv channel from zem tv.in this refrence Tahir ul Qadri is celebrating milad(Muhammad PBUH birthday).this festival milad is a basic and important fetival of Barelvi proof here.
 * Ilm al-Ghayb (Book on the Knowledge of the Unseen) is the book of Tahir ul Qadri.and Ilm al-Ghayb is fundmental believe of Barelvi movement see here here
 * he has written al-Mawlid an-Nabawiyy BOOK on Celebration of Mawlid.milad is also a fundamental belief of barelvi see here
 * another book Kitab az-Ziyara Book on Visiting the Graves.it is also fundalmental belief of barelvi see here fourth line.

Dont ever try to give fake warning to users. Dil e Muslim  talk  16:42, 22 April 2013 (UTC)

Barelvi ANI Discussion...sorry, I know it's stupid but it just never ends
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hey
hey.can you please tell me how to change user name? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Am Not New (talk • contribs) 09:41, 28 April 2013 (UTC)

discussion
Aslam o Alikum!

here is also a discussion about sir Muhammad Tahir-ul-Qadri.you can also join here. Dil e Muslim  talk  16:09, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Invitation
hi i want to invite you on to edit and watch edits going on barelvi and related articles.there is a serious wahabi pov push is going on this article including change of words modification of sentences.effort to show this movement in bad light. also these is a discussion on Wikipedia:Administrators'_noticeboard here.i think your input would be appritiated. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.154.35.244 (talk) 08:15, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

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Assess please
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 * 1) Khwaja Muhammad Latif Ansari  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cuparsk (talk • contribs) 18:23, 8 November 2014 (UTC)

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