User talk:TonyTheTiger/Archive 20

Miami at Good Article Reassessment
I just replied to your call for reassessment of Miami's GA status. As I said there, GAR is only supposed to be used for articles where GA status is in dispute—any editor that feels an article doesn't meet the GA criteria can go ahead a delist it, in the same way that anyone can review a nominated article. Don't worry, though, the instructions around the GA system have suffered tremendously from creep over the past few years; we're trying to pare them down, but it's a slow process.--jwandersTalk 01:25, 2 March 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter
The March 2008 issue of the WikiProject Good Articles Newsletter is ready! Dr. Cash (talk) 06:14, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Washington Park Race Track
Okay, ISP has finally decided to fix my issues... so I can edit again. What's the status on WPRT? Ealdgyth | Talk 03:07, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the table request was there originally. I did delete a few more of the non-notable horses and races. Ealdgyth | Talk 03:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Kobe Bryant
Please do not vandalize articles on Wikipedia. You apparently do not know what an actual award is. You apparently do not know that all information added was encyclopedic, and falsehoods were removed. Thank you.A fine point (talk) 03:37, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI, is a sock-puppet for long-time wikipedia nuisance and permanently banned .  See Requests for comment/TyrusThomas4lyf for some background history.  I've been letting his latest sock-puppetry escapade slide this time around, just to see whether his behavior's evolved into something tolerable.  But if he reverts to his old self (as I suspect he will), let me know and I'll see what can be done. &mdash; Myasuda (talk) 04:44, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

If you feel that User:A fine point's edits cross the line of civility, I would suggest notifying admins User talk:Kafziel or User talk:Daniel Case. Until he's blocked, there's not much point in engaging in what promises to be an edit war. That is, unless you want to bait him to strengthen your case. Anyhow, User talk:Kafziel has received some complaints about User:A fine point already. . . and the more he receives, the more likely he'll be to act. &mdash; Myasuda (talk) 02:01, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

List of the Day
Is there any particular reason why the List of the Day is in your user space? Normally things like this are appropriate for project space (eg motto of the day). It does create a cross-namespace redirect which is frowned upon. Sam Blacketer (talk) 10:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

David Franczyk
Speedy deletion tag removed. Was always clear that he might be notable, just wanted a demonstration of that, really. :)  Jammy Simpson |  Talk  | 00:52, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Willis Ward
Thanks for the tip on the Ward photos. I added them using the same tag you used, and they were both immediately challenged. Any suggestions on how/whether to contest deletion? As for you query some time ago about Ward, I think you'd have to go to the "history" on my talk page to pick it up from before I wiped it clean in early January. Cbl62 (talk) 02:37, 6 March 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:GRivers.jpg)
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Its greeeaaatt!!
Congrats on (yet another) DYK! Kevin Forsyth (talk) 03:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Wikipedia uses XHTML 1.0
Please note: Wikipedia uses XHTML 1.0, which means, among other things, that the HTML tag  is incorrect. Please use  instead. Thanks. --Bender235 (talk) 23:55, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Deletion
May I inquire about this deletion you made of my comment, with no explanation? Tanthalas39 (talk) 03:03, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay, no prob. Tanthalas39 (talk) 04:03, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

ANI flooding
Please use WP:RM. dihydrogen monoxide (H20) 07:25, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Tyrone Wheatley edits
I removed and moved what I felt was redundant information. I can see what you were trying to do, but it's unnecessary. In essence, you were creating two lede sections, one inside the other. I basically took the information from that first paragraph and incorporated it -- in chronological order -- into the relevant paragraphs. I can understand what you originally had the lede that way, but I feel that it was redundant, confusing, and unnecessary. If you feel the need, you're more than welcome to revert it. JKBrooks85 (talk) 23:16, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I just don't think you need to -- by repeating the stages of his life, you're limiting the amount of information the lede can cover before it gets too long. Could you give me some examples of other biographies that do a short synopsis in the lede paragraph? That'd give me a better idea of what you're thinking about. JKBrooks85 (talk) 23:26, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Okay. I think I see what you're shooting for. I'm at work right now, but I'll make some changes to it when I get the chance. I'm not as experienced with biography articles, but I think I see what you've got in mind. JKBrooks85 (talk) 23:57, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

Looks pretty good now. I didn't change very much from what you moved back. Mostly just little grammar things and I created a stub to explain ballcarrier for the non-football folks out there. If there's still something you've got a problem with, let me know. On another note, could you explain Penn Park a bit -- is it an area, an actual park, or just the name of the team. JKBrooks85 (talk) 08:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm sorry, but I don't see it. From the examples you gave, the first paragraph always appears to be a statement of the person's notability and why they were important. That's what's there now. JKBrooks85 (talk) 20:58, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I've added a bit more. JKBrooks85 (talk) 01:41, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

Congratulations! It's got to feel great to get that article to FA status after such a long debate. Awesome work on sticking to it — especially when I had thought that I was caught up to you in FAs. :) JKBrooks85 (talk) 05:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Kobe byrant
If your going to take off the sexaul assault case.. then you must redo the whole article in a new format!!! The First paragraphs must include a summary of the whole article.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwilso (talk • contribs) 02:11, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Kobe
I would love to take it off, but the adminstrators, won't let me!! Apparently it's a summary.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwilso (talk • contribs) 02:18, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

User Illadelph halflife
Note:, another sock-puppet, is discussing your edit history here: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Zodiiak&diff=prev&oldid=197151755 I've sent a note to an admin about the sock-puppetry. &mdash; Myasuda (talk) 03:32, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Lafayette Square, Buffalo
Hi, I've noticed that you've tagged the above page in the WPMILHIST project. I'm not entirely sure that this article comes under the project's scope, but wanted to check to see if you had any specific reasons to include it before delisting it. Do you? :P Rockfall (talk) 16:15, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
 * The guidelines for the project's scope doesn't actually mention monuments of this kind. I'll raise it at the project and leave it tagged for now. Rockfall (talk) 16:23, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

Invite
Jccort (talk) 02:51, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: DYK
I don't think there are hard and fast rules about what is suitable for DYK, though some differences from the overall encyclopedia notability standards are apparent; for example, there seems to be consensus to avoid more commercial articles. However, I was referring to my personal criteria for selecting hooks for the update page, not to any general rule. If some other editor cares to select the article I won't object. Sorry if that wasn't clear from the edit summary -- it's hard to explain in such a short space. Espresso Addict (talk) 15:36, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I think that when an article drops down into expired without any overwhelming objection being raised, it means that the subject lacks interest to those who edit at DYK and therefore most likely to the main page readers. Also, I don't think linking hooks is necessarily a positive (unless they can be combined, which is not the case here), as we're going for variety and US bias is one of the perennial complaints about the DYK section. Perhaps someone else will pick it up. Espresso Addict (talk) 16:07, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Crown
I've closed and archived it all Tony. --Joopercoopers (talk) 17:36, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

An article which you started, or significantly expanded, Lafayette Square, Buffalo, was selected for DYK!
Thanks for your contributions! Nishkid (talk) 17:44, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

Featured list of the day/month
Hi there,

I am interested in getting the List of Peep Show episodes as the featured list of the day and month. However, I was somewhat confused by the system. How do I nominate my list and how do I vote for it? ISD (talk) 08:22, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Wilcher & Wheatley
I think the infobox on Wilcher looks good. You've done a remarkable job in taking an article that looked like it might not survive notability challenge and building it into a very good and interesting article. And congratulations on Wheatley -- I look forward to seeing it on the main page. Cbl62 (talk) 16:16, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

umm
I've done the update but need to do the thanks, could you help... Im called away ... Victuallers (talk) 17:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Re: Lafayette Square image
It's already unprotected; I had a timed protect on it, so it shouldn't be protected. It shows as unprotected for me at least. Wizardman 18:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

G. David Schine
I'm happy to have you participate in the discussion on this article, but I wish you had waited to read my response to your comments before you reverted me. I've asked for page-protection on the article, but if the article is frozen in the version that user RAN wants, he isn't likely to participate in any further discussion. He is enormously reluctant to discuss any of his edits, and rarely talks sense when he does discuss. If, after more-thorough discussion, you still agree with his edits and disagree with mine, then I'll drop the issue and remove the article from my watch list. But let's try to have a real discussion. RedSpruce (talk) 18:27, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Actually that is the tactic RedSpruce has been using. He reverts everything I add to an article, then ask for it to be protected.


 * Just look how much information was deleted by RedSpruce in his last reversion of my edits, back to his last version here at Annie Lee Moss. He reverted over a dozen individual edits, including information on her birth, her parents, her husband, and her death date.


 * At Mary Stalcup Markward edits, he has deleted every edit I have made to the article since his edit, including the source for the name of her parents. I don't think this as an issue of what references are best for the article, it has become very personal for him. My additions to articles are deleted, my sources are deleted. I see it as a classic ownership problem. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 18:44, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

TTT, I feel that this remark was inappropriate, given your lack of background knowledge of the situation. RedSpruce (talk) 19:04, 14 March 2008 (UTC)


 * There are already two open ANIs brought by others here: Pattern of uncivil editing by User:RedSpruce

WTF? RedSpruce (talk) 22:51, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

POTD notification
Hi TonyTheTiger,

Just to let you know that the Featured Picture Image:20070616 Chris Young visits Wrigley (4)-edit3.jpg is due to make an appearance as Picture of the Day on March 25, 2008. If you get a chance, you can check and improve the caption at Template:POTD/2008-03-25.  howcheng  {chat} 22:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

O'Malley
The O'Malley people liked the article, well, except for the Stalin reference. O'Malley's daughter created the organization walteromalley.com. I will look for a source for the last missing reference, I think I already have one talking about the financial success from Time magazine. Did you read that Newsweek is now putting its archive up for free, now that Time and the New York Times have done it? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 14:38, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

Magazines

 * List of online magazine archives, if you know of others, please add them


 * Its a shame that almost all of the newspapers don't have deals to be indexed by Google News archive. The New York Times dropped its paywall when they realized that they could double their revenue (5M to 10M/year) if they allowed everyone in from Google for free, and got 5 cents per ad view. They were getting $5M from subscriptions to the archive. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 13:25, 20 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:Building/Structure
Trump Tower Chicago would still be a structure, as although some floors are occupied, it is still not a continually habitable building. And thank you for the LOTD reminder; the 20th came sooner than I expected :) Cheers, Rai - me  22:01, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I will expand on my previous post, as I forgot to talk about topping out. "Continually habitable" means that the building consists of completed, habitable floors from ground level to top floor. The Trump Tower is habitable until the 52nd floor, but construction is still taking place above that, and the building isn't topped out, so it would still be a structure (once it is topped out with its spire, it will become a "building" - this seems strange, as the CTBUH has defined a building as a structure consisting of continually habitable floors, and topped out buildings are not usually completely habitable, but nevertheless this is the standard for determining when an under construction structure becomes a building). This is the reason why the Burj Dubai, although exteriorly complete on its lower levels, will not become an official "building" and take the title of world's tallest building until it is topped out. Sorry if this confusing - basically, a building is defined as a structure consisting of habitable, structurally complete floors from ground level to the roof of the highest floor (this criterion prevents the CN Tower, for exmaple, from being considered a building), but a building actually becomes an "official" building for the first time when it is topped out. Although these two criteria seem contradictory, this is the standard. But anyway, the Trump Tower is neither topped out nor completely habitable, so it would not be a building. It will be defined as an "official" building for the first time in late 2008, when the spire is added. Let me know if you need any more clarification. Cheers, Rai - me  01:02, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Re:Stewart Shining
You had two apostrophes in front of Sports Illustrated and three behind it. Even something that simple can cause problems. --CWY2190TC 05:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Look directly at this diff in the edit screen. The first time you mention Sports Illustrated, you only have two apostrophes in front, but have three behind to close it.  Thats what caused the problems. --CWY2190TC 16:20, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

More Demi Moore passed
'nuff said. good read. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 05:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Moss
Talk:Annie_Lee_Moss, want to comment. During her testimony, Moss stated that there were other Moss' in Washington. In a footnote, I show who two were. Its being deleted as original research, I claim its research from a primary source document. I don't see it as Synthesis either, I am not trying to establish a new position, just show the names as they appeared in the census. There is already another footnote from a book that also mentions it, my footnote expands on it. So, should it be deleted? Its not in the text of the article. Just one more bit of information for those who want more detail, after all thats why I looked it up. Exactly who were these other Moss' and how close were their names. Note that that the same person who deleted this also deleted all other information I added, back to his last addition to the article. Peek at the edit history of the article page. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 16:29, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Joseph McCarthy
If you would like to participate in the discussion about RAN's edits in the article's talk page, please do so. Please do not just blindly support RAN's edit war because you find me "annoying." That sort of vendetta-pursuing is disruptive rather than constructive. If you had taken the time to read the discussion, you would have seen that the edit you are supporting is incorrect, as it gives undue coverage to something that was no more than an insignificant reporting error.

And I am not "in ANI", whatever that phrase might mean. As you may know, any fool, even one such as I, can open an ANI. If administrators don't choose to take action on the "incident" then it eventually moves to the ANI archives, and is effectively closed. That's what happened to the one that RAN's part time meat puppet opened on me, and that's what happened to the one that I opened on him. RedSpruce (talk) 21:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Info box
I wish you would wait for a reply before reverting my changes. There is a user with some sort of program removing all non-free use images from living football player info boxes without any notice and without any chance for contesting the removal. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/David_Gerard In the last ten hours, we have already lost images for Charles Woodson, Anthony Thomas, Steve Hutchinson (American football), Cato June, Elvis Grbac, B.J. Askew, Dan Dierdorf, David Terrell (fighter), Jason Avant, Victor Hobson, Glen Steele, Mike Hammerstein, Bubba Paris, Shantee Orr, Leroy Hoard, Bennie Joppru, and many other Wolverines. I moved our images temporarily out of the info boxes to try to save them. If they are now lost, it is your responsibility! Cbl62 (talk) 05:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you for reverting your changes. I apologize if my comments seemed harsh, but the loss of hundreds (even thousands) of images in such a short time without any notice or opportunity to contest, reversing days of work by numerous editors, was very troubling. Cbl62 (talk) 06:05, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
 * By the way, I think your idea of creating a Michigan Wolverines men's basketball page so we are consistent with most other NCAA and Big Ten schools is a good one. That said, I've never been a big UM basketball fan.  In my day (early 80s), basketball was not that competitive at UM, and I never developed a passion for it.  Accordingly, I'd be happy to chip in but would not be able to devote a huge amount of time to it.  Cbl62 (talk)
 * Thanks for the idea. Right now, I'm in the middle of preparing articles on major thoroughfares of Los Angeles, which is where I now live.  Once I work that out of my system, I'll see if still has not been written.  Cbl62 (talk) 23:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

WP:LOTD
Congratulations! List of Oh My Goddess episodes was selected as a List of the Day for April. Let me know if you have a strong preference for a date.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 07:36, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * 25 August 2008 will be the 20th anniversary of the series. That would be my preferred date if this is possible. -- Cat chi? 10:13, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * It is a LOTD for April. Only dates in APril are possible.  I will assign a random date.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 14:59, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * If possible please not April 1. How about 23rd of April? :) -- Cat chi? 15:10, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

List of brain tumor patients
If I were asking for any date I'd request July 22. That would have been my father's birthday; he's why I created it. Durova Charge! 16:14, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

List of Indiana state symbols
For a date preference April 10 would be great! Thanks! HoosierStateTalk 17:01, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people: W-Z
Note the slight change from "/W-Z" to ": W-Z" in the name. For a date, how about April 20? Thanks mucho!! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 04:25, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Green Wing (series 1)
I was wondering if it was possible to nominated this list for "Featured list of the month", despite the fact I've already nominated a different article (List of Peep Show episodes) for the same thing. ISD (talk) 15:53, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Triple crowns
That's quite a contribution list you have! Would you consider applying for a triple crown? I'm sure you'd qualify for the Napoleonic edition and possibly the Alexander the Great edition. Regards, Durova Charge! 16:38, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Godsmack discography
Thanks! You have a great thing going with LOTD. If it isn't taken, I would like for Godsmack discography to be featured on April 25. That is the two year anniversary of IV. If the dat eis unavailable, then it doesn't matter to me what date it is on. By the way, when is LOTD going to the main page? Thanks, Burningclean  [speak]  17:45, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

Your GA nomination of Barry Bonds
The article Barry Bonds you nominated as a good article has failed, see Talk:Barry Bonds for reasons why the nomination failed. If or when these points have been taken care of, you may apply for a new nomination of said article. If you oppose this decision, you may ask for a reassessment. D.M.N. (talk) 14:37, 25 March 2008 (UTC)

Portal:Chicago/Did you know
Sorry to trouble you, but before you go any further with this reformat, it'd make it much easier for future work if you reformat this subsection instead using the model at Portal:Norway/DYK - trust me, it'll make things much easier for future updates/management. Cirt (talk) 09:06, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

References preview
I answered your question. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:19, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
 * You will need to change your monbook.js and remove:

// ******************* // WP:POPUP // Script from User:Lupin/popups.js document.write(''); popupAdminLinks = true;    //for administrators
 * Then go to Special:Preferences and select the "Gadgets" tab. Now check "Navigation popups" a(nd any other tool you might wish to enable) and click save. Once my fix is applied (might take a day or so), the notes should start to preview the refs again. --TheDJ (talk • contribs) 14:54, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Template:NFL Draft template list
On the Template:NFL Draft template list you created can you change it so that it is the color:FFE6BD, so it matches with the actual template--Yankees10 16:18, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Then I really dont think it should be there, because it doesnt look good if its not that color--Yankees10 17:58, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

To tell you the truth I really dont think it should be there, not because of the color just because Its kind of pointless--Yankees10 18:08, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

Jack Kemp GAN
Notes left on talk page. Best, Happyme22 (talk) 00:46, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I passed it. Good luck at FAC. Happyme22 (talk) 18:51, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Speedy deletion of Image:Dolekemp1996.gif
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 * Sorry about that, the rationale box didn't come up for some reason.  Voyaging  (talk) 04:45, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Orphaned non-free media (Image:Lena.jpg)
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DYK archive error
Answered in Help_desk. `'Míkka>t 22:05, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

We did it, SS Chris is a Featured Article!
Some very nice comments from you. I am sorry you didn't get to cap them all off. Is this the first ship in the Chicago project? Maybe SS Eastland could be done? She's quite famous too, if tragically so. ++Lar: t/c 22:29, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Lafayette Square
Just wanted to know I left you some feedback about the article. It just needs two more things...infobox and a bottom city template. After that, it will be GA in my opinion. Let me know if you need anything specific. Chrisfortier (talk) 03:13, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Template:Infobox historic area works very well, actually. It does not need to be perfect to the specification but something like that would be fantastic. Thanks! Chrisfortier (talk) 03:34, 31 March 2008 (UTC)

sup
Fu specifically mentions the demi moore article as an example of acceptable use, just fyi. 86.44.30.16 (talk) 23:53, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

Any photos needed?
Hello Tony. I was planning to take a day off soon, when the weather is a little nicer, and engage in a gas-guzzling drive around the South Side; could take pictures - that would add structure to the outing. Do you have any specific requests? Things southeast of about 63rd and Cottage Grove have always been kind of mysterious to me, so the plan was to explore there, but other suggestions welcome. Sincerely, Novickas (talk) 18:20, 30 March 2008 (UTC)


 * That looks like a good starting point, thanks. Novickas (talk) 21:44, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

WP:LOTD
Congratulations! Swimming World Swimmers of the Year was selected as a List of the Day for April. Let me know if you have a strong preference for a date.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD) 07:43, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, it seem as though all the big swimming was at the Euro champs and the Aus Olympic trials which is this month! Never mind. Hopefully, perhaps the US trials in July might a suitable time. We're all expecting a flurry of world records from Michael Phelps, Katie Hoff, Ian Crocker, Aaron Peirsol and Natalie Coughlin. Which would be good. Hopefully the Australians can lift some more though :)  Blnguyen  ( bananabucket ) 06:38, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Everyone in Australia is eagerly awaiting the swimming in Beijing after the 8 WRs this past week.  Blnguyen  ( vote in the photo straw poll ) 06:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)