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 * As you can see, a link was moved from that page to another as it was more relevant there. Also content was added.  My changes were then vandalised. Tony May (talk) 21:40, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

List of LMS locomotives as of 1947-12-31
It would be nice if you would at least explain why you keep reverting my change to the dates in List of LMS locomotives as of 1947-12-31. At least a comment on the talk page would be good behaviour. Thank you. MilborneOne (talk) 18:21, 7 November 2008 (UTC)


 * Thank for the reply I have commented on the talk page. Please note I am considering proposing to move the article to the better List of LMS locomotives as of 31 December 1947 as being more sensible. But I have asked for opinions at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways. Your comments are welcome. MilborneOne (talk) 18:44, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

BR locomotive numbering
There is no single version of history and sources often disagree. If you have sources which you believe to be more reliable than mine then you are free to edit the relevant articles accordingly. Biscuittin (talk) 10:34, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

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 * Well tell him off not me then. He's the one removing content.  that is vandalism. Tony May (talk) 22:33, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


 * You have been warned. You should take this to dispute resolution if it keeps going. You jumped in after months of edits. ←Signed:→ Mr. E. Sánchez Get to know me! / Talk to me! ←at≈:→ 22:38, 15 November 2008 (UTC)


 * What's this a conspiracy of vandals? Tony May (talk) 22:39, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

I have seen this dispute posted about on WP:AIV. I have warned the other user (Boleyn) to discontinue as he too is in violation of 3RR. Please discontinue reverting or you may face a block.¤~Persian Poet Gal (talk) 22:41, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

WikiProject UK Trains
Hi, I see you are interested in trains. Why not join the WikiProject, all you need to do is add your name here and you are a member! Mjroots (talk) 07:47, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

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 * IN case you hadn't noticed you are revert warring too! I am merely improving the article, as per our "discussion"  in which you ignore all my arguments in favour of your own opinion.   Tony May (talk) 07:46, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

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I have replied on my talk page. Biscuittin (talk) 19:11, 27 November 2008 (UTC)

Edward Talbot
I've reverted the addition to the Edward Talbot page, disambig pages should link to other wiki pages. If your addition is notable, he should have his own article written first, then the link added to the disambig page. Thanks! Dayewalker (talk) 10:05, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * You've already been used about use of the word "vandalism"; this voilates WP:CIVIL which is a Bad Idea William M. Connolley (talk) 12:49, 5 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Sorry. I did not realise there was such feeling about this.  I will see if I can write an article on Ted Talbot if I work out his bibliography. Thanks. Tony May (talk) 13:06, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

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 * Yes that's fine. Let's hope we get a good mediator though. Tony May (talk) 14:14, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

Please add your thoughts at Requests_for_mediation/LNER_Peppercorn_Class_A1. Biscuittin (talk) 19:03, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Thanks for agreeing to mediation. Do you want to add any additional issues to be mediated? Biscuittin (talk) 17:07, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

I've put my comments at "Issues to be mediated". I think you should put yours at "Additional issues to be mediated". MacNee has put some comments there so make sure you identify yours as yours. Biscuittin (talk) 23:04, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

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Peppercorn Class A1
Issues raised at WP:AN/I Mjroots (talk) 08:49, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

I want to explain why I put my edits back into your Tony May/A1 page. You want this page to be part of the discussions about that topic, but if so, the comments you make should be subject to discussion. How can this discussion continue if edits to the Tony May/A1 page are not welcome? There is supposed to be discussion and I suggest that either the Tony May/A1 page is open to edits and discussion, or you should withdraw it from the discussions on A1 Peppercorn talk page. Captain Nemo III (talk) 05:02, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

Image copyright problem with Image:Tony May's replication diagram.png
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 * Sorry, I drew that myself so it is my copyright. Tony May (talk) 12:44, 25 December 2008 (UTC)

Henry Melvin Young
Hi, I recently came across this article you'd started a while back. It was interesting to me because Young is a relative. I'll see if I can find some family photos, or such. Regards, &mdash; BillC talk 20:13, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Pictures on List of rolling stock items in the UK National Collection
Why did you take them off? Railwayfan2005 (talk) 20:43, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

BR (ex-WD) Locos
The explanatory text for Steam locomotives of British Railways just tails off ("Also, five of the eight LMS Fowler Class 3F 0-6-0Ts were.")

Having applied some other tweaks, I still could not see how the sentence was supposed to finish. Could you take a look please?

EdJogg (talk) 13:04, 13 February 2009 (UTC)


 * ✅ -- perhaps you could check my edits?
 * (Was just wondering why your talk page was on my watchlist, then re-discovered this orphan comment...)
 * EdJogg (talk) 20:19, 19 January 2011 (UTC)

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Hallo (Are you the Tony May who was at Univ of Leeds, I wonder?)

I came across John Austin (artist) while stub-sorting. There were a few problems you might like to bear in mind another time:
 * You linked FGRA without checking where it led to - until I change it just now it was pointing to an obscure village as the initials of its Residents Association (not mentioned in the article so I felt it OK to just re-direct the redirect). Please always check that links are going where you intend (eg not to a disambiguation page).
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 * You added a non-existent category, and replaced it when it was removed, to this and other pages. I've created a new, wider, category: Category: Rail transport artists. Neutral terminology between railway/railroad. It's within the parent category of Category:Artists by genre. I think it's more useful than the category you were using which can only have 5 members.
 * When listing a book, it's better to give publisher and date and ISBN: the last is then picked up and made into a link automatically (as long as it's input as ISBN (in capitals), space, then the number). It all adds authority to the article.

PamD (talk) 10:06, 27 February 2011 (UTC)


 * Looking further, it might be good to create Category:British railway artists as a subset of both the above and Category:British people in rail transport. I might do it, no time right now.PamD (talk) 10:09, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
 * Done. PamD (talk) 00:03, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

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 * As a back-up position, could we merge this with LMS Sentinels 7160-3? Biscuittin (talk) 18:34, 9 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Not really. They're quite different technically.  7160-3/(4)7180-3 were very much different (much bigger; e.g. weighed 20.85 tons not 19 tons).  The vital stats are in there already. Tony May (talk) 18:37, 9 March 2012 (UTC)

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Gerard Dewhurst
I have reverted your edits as unreferenced - please include a reliable source so we can verify the claims. Regards, GiantSnowman 14:47, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Again, you are adding unreferenced information to an article. Please find a reliable source so we can verify the claims. GiantSnowman 19:15, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I added a reference. Pehraps you should go and do your research in the obvious places? Tony May (talk) 19:15, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * What reference, where? GiantSnowman 19:17, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I have notified WT:FOOTY about your disruption. I will not revert you again due to WP:3RR. PS labelling my edits as "vandalism" is extremely poor form. GiantSnowman 19:21, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not being disruptive. You are. You're removing referenced material. That is vandalism, basically. Tony May (talk) 19:23, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * You have not provided a reference, and in fact some of what you are claiming is contradicted by existing sources. You say Dewhurst was a banker? Nope, cotton trader. GiantSnowman 19:26, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes I have. And yes he was a banking executive. Which part of that don't you understand? Tony May (talk) 20:29, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

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 * 1) Edit warring is disruptive regardless of how many reverts you have made; that is to say, editors are not automatically "entitled" to three reverts.
 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.


 * Thanks, but I'm reverting vandalism. Tony May (talk) 21:05, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately you are not reverting vandalism you are edit warring. If you continue then it will be reported as a breach of 3rr. You currently have reverted 6 times that is clear edit warring. Edinburgh  Wanderer  21:07, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * So explain to me, which part of that is not vandalism? Removing perfectly valid information? Vandalism. Tony May (talk) 21:08, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Please read this WP:3RR. You are in strong danger of being blocked if you continue to ignore the rules. Adam4267 (talk) 21:09, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * YOU ARE ONE OF THE VANDALS! WP:3RR doesn't apply to reverting vandalism, as far as I can tell. Tony May (talk) 21:10, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I have reported you here WP:AIV for your editwarring at Gerard Dewhurst. Adam4267 (talk) 21:20, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I have reported you at WP:AIV for your vandalism to Gerard Dewhurst. Tony May (talk) 21:30, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Tony, reading WP:CIVILITY could be helpful for your future editing. Specifically try to engage in conversation with other editors rather than ignoring what they say, falsely accusing them of things and edit warring. Thanks. Adam4267 (talk) 21:41, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * I have been perfectly civil in what quite clearly idiotic trolling. Tony May (talk) 21:47, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

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You're way over three reverts on Gerard Dewhurst, and it is clearly a content dispute. I have blocked you for 24 hours. If you will avoid any more reverts, I will unblock so you can discuss it on the article talk page (any admin may do the same). To request an unblock, add below this. --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:26, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * OK. Thanks. How many of the vandals get banned? 21:29, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * That's the crux of the issue, no one was vandalizing the article. It was a legitimate content dispute.  And as such, it needs to be resolved through discussion on the talk page, or failing that, dispute resolution.  If you're willing to forgo further edits to the article until you have consensus to make those changes, I would be happy to unblock you.  --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:37, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * OK. Put this another way, how can removing perfectly valid content on false pretenses not be vandalism? Tony May (talk) 21:46, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collector of information. There are many reasons why something true and demonstrable might be excluded from an article.  Let me be clear, though, I take no side in your dispute.  You will have to discuss it with the other editors to determine their reasons for wanting to leave it out.  And I would be happy to unblock you for that purpose, if you're willing to forgo editing the page until you have consensus on those edits.  --TeaDrinker (talk) 21:53, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Given his above statement made seconds ago calling everyone else idiotic trolls I'm not sure he is willing to discuss with anyone. Everyone would be happy to discuss if it was civil but given above I'm not sure they have respect for wikis guidelines and calling non vandalism as such is worrying behaviour from anyone let alone breaking 3RR which isn't the first time see top of talk page or being uncivil which calling everyone trolls is.Edinburgh  Wanderer  21:57, 10 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Perhaps, although it may well be that his troglodytic remark was merely the result of a temporary poor judgement call. I see nothing that yet warrants a permanent ban, so my belief is it is necessary to continue working to resolve this issue or we're just delaying conflict 24 hours by blocking.  Nothing suggests to me that Tony is an intransigent editor, merely passionate.  I have high hopes we can get past this issue, if we are all mindful of the tigers. --TeaDrinker (talk) 22:04, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't want him permanently blocked i don't even want the block extended because he appears normally to be productive. What I'm saying is unblocking so he can discuss whilst still calling everyone vandals or trolls will make it worse he or she needs to calm down and be civil before this issue is going anywhere.Edinburgh  Wanderer  22:10, 10 March 2012 (UTC)

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Scots Guardsman
There is nothing wrong with the photo of 46115 in Carlisle as it's a more recent photograph of the engine at work on railtours compared to that shot youve added from 2009. And that photo of 46115 which your claiming is terrible is infact one of my own photographs, so id advise ya dont slag me off for my photo work. Photos have to be kept updated every few years with more recent shots and its the same story with the jubilees as a shot of Leander in crimson is out of date as the engine no longer wears that livery. Unless theres a more recent photo of 46115 do not change it to an old one as the more recent shot must remain as was, also stop deleting info on classmembers.

Proposed deletion of No. 6207; A Study in Steel


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There we go... Tony May (talk) 14:13, 4 March 2019 (UTC)

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Article photos
Are you seriously replacing every single one of my photographs in articles with other peoples, what have you got against my work.

Article photos (2)
Stop slagging off my work, I dont see any of your own work so stop randomly criticising my own work and replacing it with random peoples photographs. The photos still show the subject and it cant be helped if the weather was what it was. Keep negative views over my work to yourself and stop editing others work. Moylesy98 (talk) 02:15, 5 March 2019 (UTC)

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Copy-paste moves
I have deleted your unattributed copy paste moves. If there is a need to split a page (which wasn't necessary here), you should always make sure to clearly indicate the origin of the text for attribution reasons. Now the article history gave the impression that you were the writer of these pages, while all you did was copy them from elsewhere. Fram (talk) 09:17, 6 March 2019 (UTC)


 * The moves were necessary. Why are you suddenly being so aggressive towards me?  What have I done to upset you? Honestly...Tony May (talk) 14:01, 6 March 2019 (UTC)


 * See Copying within Wikipedia. What you did is not allowed here. Fram (talk) 14:17, 6 March 2019 (UTC)


 * WP:SOFIXIT - preferably unobnoxiously. Tony May (talk) 14:19, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

48151 Article
Stop purposely removing my images from articles as it's like you dislike all of my work and would rather see others photos in articles and mine in none. Also with regard to your spelling of Conway that is the incorrect spelling as it was correct prior to your tampering with it as it's spelt Conwy, the way you've spelt it leads to a page that doesnt exist. It's spelt as Conwy NOT Conway. Here is the article to show how it's spelt, so DO NOT change that again. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conwy_Valley_line

With the article photograph again leave it as was, there is nothing wrong with that photograph at all. It's almost like your bullying me into removing every single photograph from articles.

48151 Article
What is your problem with my photographs as your being rather harsh towards me for having photos in any article, also you once again mis-spelled the Conwy valley line as it leads to a page that doesnt exist. Read the link I previously shared showing the proper spelling before you change it to an incorrect spelling as your destroying the article.

48151 photos and article
Looking at the photographs each one is impressive but every single one has been took by one individual which does seem like you want anothers images on every single article. Numerous photos are clearly snaps from YouTube video's and others have multiple faults in them. Mine however doesnt have the sun reflecting off the engine and is focused more on the steam engine, while some others are good they are all from exactly the same person so seems like you want they're photo to be at the top of the article.

Also you have once again changed the spelling for the Conwy Valley Line, this is leading to a no page error. Other people besides myself will want that reverting back to what it was as it is spelt under it's welsh name, not english. Read the article and you will see how it's spelt unless you plan to change the name for that too. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conwy_Valley_line

Conwy Valley Line
You say it's called Conway Valley Line then explain why it's called Conwy Valley Line in the article, the way your spelling it leads to a no page error which will irritate other users. It's the same with articles like Settle and Carlisle as we dont spell it as Settle and Carlile, you seriously need to look at how the article is spelt before you change the text to something that will confuse people as the way it was lead to the article. The way you had it spelt again led to a no page error, which is something we dont want.


 * OK, let's deal with the photographs first, then your inability to use English second .Tony May (talk) 00:46, 12 March 2019 (UTC)

Gender neutral language
Please remember to use gender neutral language WP:GNL when referring to locomotives; it or its rather than she or her and not change GNL as you did in this edit .Best wishes.SovalValtos (talk) 02:44, 13 March 2019 (UTC)


 * haha, as I've told Redrose1964, WP:GNL is WP:NOTPOLICY - it's a WP:ESSAY, which doesn't say anything about steam engines. I have no doubt that corpus research would demonstrate the use of "she" to both widespread and with a long history.  Tony May (talk) 03:00, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

45699 Galatea page
What the hell is your problem with my content, your just using a single individuals photos off flickr in a bid to get rid of every single photograph I have up in an article. I bet your just doing this out of spite to try and stop me from having a single photo up in an article, claiming im doing it as self promotion which is 100% bullshit. Your just using another individuals photos which I reacon has been done without their permission, either upload one of your own photos to wiki or dont bother changing it as without that image there wouldnt have been an image for the article. It's the same story with the saint and county as they havent got one yet and NO I havent seen either yet.


 * Just to clarify. No, I'm using freely available photos off flickr.  There are not many flickr photographers who licence their images appropriately, but the choice of photograph is based on technical merit, not who took them.  Your own choices are based entirely on the fact that you took them. Tony May (talk) 00:29, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

5593, 46100 articles
Once again you deleted my photographs from these articles and left the others that were there in a bid to get rid of my images to try and make me look like a shit photographer. Had I not taken those photos some articles would not have had a photograph on them, and just so you know that photo of Kolhapur in Southport was taken by my father NOT me. You seem to want to have all my photos taken off articles for no reason at all and let other peoples crapper photos take their place. You seriously need to knock it in the head where you purposely delete my photos and replace them out of spite with anothers work. Otherwise I will have to take action.


 * These are not your articles to insert your technically poor photos into. I don't need to make you look like a "shit photographer" (your words) - you're managing that all by yourself on Flickr.  Not putting bad photos in Wikipedia is going to hide your photography anyway, so no-one will think it's "shit". Tony May (talk) 00:27, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

My Photos
I'll have you know my photographs arent taken with a camera phone, they are taken with my Nikon camera. So dont go saying I use a phone camera as atleast my photos are better than Richard Harnetty's. User:Moylesey98 01:30, 15 March 2019


 * Thanks Dave; the main determinant of a photograph is the photographer, not the kit - so it's a bit of a waste of an expensive camera. (btw, which lenses do you use?).  And who is Richard Harnetty this guy?  Why is that relevant?  Why are you attacking him?  His photos, although not consistently great, are generally speaking significantly better than yours. This, for example, is a fantastic shot.  Tony May (talk) 01:39, 15 March 2019 (UTC)


 * OK, has posted for help at WT:TWP. As  is possibly WP:INVOLVED, I'm going to have a say.
 * The edit warring stops, here and now. Wherever there are images in dispute between the pair of you, they are not to be changed by either you, Tony May, or by you, on pain of a block. Any other editor in good standing may change a disputed image on grounds of quality.
 * Quality, and quality alone, is the factor by which an image should be judged. It matters not who took the image. A good picture taken by A. N. Other outranks a mediocre picture taken by . The same appies to images taken by the pair of you. Got that? Good. Now, let's get back to work improving Wikipedia and stop wasting everyone's time with petty squabbles. Mjroots (talk) 08:48, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Let me summarise this then user:Mjroots Can you confirm the above understanding is correct? Tony May (talk) 12:50, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I am in total agreement with you about the use of images. I have been saying exactly this for some time.  I have no problem with it whatsoever.
 * I'm not permitted in future to remove inadequate images from Wikipedia articles in the instances where those particular images have been taken by Dave, in case it upsets him.
 * To clarify, if "Dave" (Moylesey98?) placed the image which you object to in the article, then you are not to remove it. By all means raise a discussion either at an appropriate Wikiproject or on the article's talk page. Any other editor is free to edit. The restriction applies both ways, as I can't impose it on one editor and not the other, no matter who is "at fault". Hope you understand why that is the situation. Mjroots (talk) 12:55, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Following a report at WP:ANEW, I discovered that the clear instruction I gave above was not adhered to. I've issued a block, and rolled back the two edits that were in breach of the above restrictions, which remain in place. Your continued co-operation is appreciated. Mjroots (talk) 20:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

Copying within Wikipedia requires attribution
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Accurate summary
Hello, I noticed that you recently changed the article Lord Uxbridge's leg and gave an incorrect summary of your edit. It would be helpful to others if you described your changes to Wikipedia with an accurate edit summary. /B****n (talk) 05:23, 2 April 2019 (UTC)

Critiques of photographs
I am prepared to accept criticism. I am not prepared to accept abuse. Wikipedia is intended as a record of accurate information, not as a gallery for pretty pictures. London Overground's Class 378s are receiving a new livery, for which the pictures that I've taken are the only examples. Whether they meet your aesthetic standards should be neither here nor there. Unless of course you'd like to go out and take some pictures that do meet your standards. Hammersfan (talk) 17:40, 23 April 2019 (UTC)


 * WP:QUALITY control is important. I did not abuse you.  I criticised your images. Take it like a man.  We need good images, these are not "my aesthetic standards", they are common sense.  I can understand that you are not an experienced photographer.  That's OK.  I'm not an experienced ballroom dancer, so I don't video my dancing and try to put it into the top of the article on ballroom dancing, because I recognise my limitations.  Tony May (talk) 01:10, 24 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Tony, stating "you are not an experienced photographer", based on your opinion of a small handful of photographs, is being overly judgemental and verging on an attack. You were warned about this on Commons when you made the same misjudged opinion of myself . I would strongly advise you to lay off your vendetta against photographs that do not meet your personal standard, as you are not making any friends here. — O Still Small Voice of Clam 05:30, 24 April 2019 (UTC)


 * No, it's not, Voice of Clam. Trust me, I've scrolled through https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:ListFiles?limit=500&user=Hammersfan&ilshowall=1 - although some of the ship photos are OK, the train photos are hardly professional standard; in fact they indeed barely adequate for the purposes to which we need to put them.  I can't find one single photograph in that list that is well-composed or properly exposed, even accidentally - but if you can, please post it here.  Tony May (talk) 05:43, 24 April 2019 (UTC)


 * You are digging yourself deeper into a hole that you may not be able to climb out of. And changing someone elses comments, even just a header, is not helping you at all. — O Still Small Voice of Clam 06:32, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the simple advice. If only others would listen to mine... Tony May (talk) 06:38, 24 April 2019 (UTC)

Discussion at WikiProject UK Railways
Please note I have raised a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways that concerns you. — O Still Small Voice of Clam 17:42, 29 May 2019 (UTC)


 * If I hadn't developed a thick skin from many years of editing Wikipedia, your allegation that I "ought to learn how Wikipedia works" would be insulting - as it is, it is simply laughable. If anything, it is you who cannot grasp the basic principle that Wikipedia is a collaborative effort. This means that we work together towards a common goal. Yes, we have disagreements, but we treat each others opinions with respect, and we realise that each of us have skills and abilities to improve the encylopedia.


 * For example, this means we don't need to try to score "points" by pointing out spelling mistakes. If it's in an article, we just correct it; if it's a comment on a talk page we ignore it.


 * After careful consideration, I have decided not to bring your behaviour to AN at present, but if I see any more unnecessary criticism from you against myself or anyone else, I will have no hesitation in doing so. Please consider this a final warning. — O Still Small Voice of Clam 17:57, 31 May 2019 (UTC)

BR class 07
Hi,

The photo you keep wanting to use is awful, it is a bad scan of what looks like an instamatic print and is, frankly unusable. Secondly the picture hides the distinguishing feature of the class, ie it is a centre cab. Your preferred picture makes it look more like an 03. Using it justs makes the page look shoddy and amateurish.

I would also dispute that it is a preservation era photo as the loco is not preserved but was retained by BR and, I believe, was still owned by them at the time the photo was taken. What is this obsession with not using preservation era photos anyway? By all means use BR era photos where good ones are available but this is just silly.

Murgatroyd49 (talk) 07:40, 24 June 2019 (UTC)


 * user:Murgatroyd49 - please discuss this at talk:British Rail Class 07. Tony May (talk) 07:45, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
 * I will be doing Murgatroyd49 (talk) 08:04, 24 June 2019 (UTC)


 * Thank you! Tony May (talk) 13:49, 24 June 2019 (UTC)


 * 3005 Eastleigh Works 22-10-73.jpg Well done on finding a more suitable photo, now can you find one of a 4REP which is the other one that is bugging me! Murgatroyd49 (talk) 20:17, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

BR class 37
Hi Tony, I've subbed the monchrome photo in the building section with a near contemporary colour photo. If you think it unsuitable feel free to revert it back. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 09:02, 8 July 2019 (UTC)

Let's not make personal attacks
There is currently a discussion at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. The thread is Tony May and persistent criticism and belittling of other editors on British railways. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:20, 14 August 2019 (UTC)

" you have a lot of crap that you are trying to deal with. "

I have no idea what you mean by that, or how much you know. But if you do, I will see that as an extreme form of OUTING and will respond appropriately, through T&S in San Francisco, and I will attempt to obtain the same sort of ban as is applied to Fram. This is not public information on WP, and it is going to stay that way. Andy Dingley (talk) 15:43, 22 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Oh god that wasn't a threat Andy. I'm really genuinely sorry.  I meant Wikipedia-crap not real life crap.  I think it's genuinely making you angsty and you should really calm down.  What is T&S anyway?  I don't know. Tony May (talk) 15:49, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
 * See T&S. -- Red rose64 &#x1f339; (talk) 18:25, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Your draft article, Draft:Southern Railway Pacifics


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September 2019
Hello, I'm Jeni. I wanted to let you know that one or more of your recent contributions to Hydraulophone have been undone because they did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you have any questions, you can ask for assistance at the help desk. Thanks. Jeni ( talk ) 08:49, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
 * @Tony, if you're going to so obviously stalk other editors to unrelated articles, at least get it right. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:56, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

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