User talk:Tony at MS Focus

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I noticed that one of the first articles you edited was Multiple Sclerosis Foundation, which appears to be dealing with a topic with which you may have a conflict of interest. In other words, you may find it difficult to write about that topic in a neutral and objective way, because you are, work for, or represent, the subject of that article.&#32;Your recent contributions may have already been undone for this very reason.

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Update to Multiple Sclerosis Foundation page
I work for the Multiple Sclerosis Foundation. I'm new to editing article here. In fact, I only joined specifically to update our organization's page, since it is outdated and doesn't reflect our current re-branding and operations. I created a username MSFocus and made edits. I didn't know that that name conflicted with username policy. I updated my user name and re-tried the edits.

I felt the need to be transparent about who I was when making the changes. That way, anyone looking into the edit history would see that a staff member made the edits and not just someone's IP address. I never meant for the page to be advertising, I simply wanted our page to be accurate, up-to-date, informative, and have a nice presentation to it.

Admin Grayfell removed my edits twice, under the two usernames. I posted a message in his talk page explaining everything and asking for assistance in update the page properly, but haven't heard back. My task at work today was to update this page, and I'm looking for some help so this process doesn't drag out longer than it needs to.

I read over the conflicts of interest for editing guidelines, so I understand that the staff here do not want employees updating their organization's pages, but the current page for Multiple Sclerosis Foundation does not properly reflect our organization. I'm looking for some assistance with how to properly update the page without violating policy on advertising and advocacy.

Thank you.

Tony at MS Focus (talk) 19:06, 28 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Welcome to Wikipedia! Thanks for asking how to do this. You can suggest changes on the talk page of the article here. CHRISSY MAD  ❯❯❯  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯  19:23, 28 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Also thanks for wanting to disclose your association with the organization. Wikipedia's policy on paid contributors suggests you should add a note to that effect to your user page. Please note that Wikipedia content should be based on reliable third-party sources such as articles about your organization written by newspapers or reputable magazines (not press releases or your own website, not blogs or social media, not just passing mentions). Your changes were not supported by such references. Huon (talk) 20:06, 28 March 2017 (UTC)


 * Hi! So, the information I'm trying to update and add doesn't come from a third party. The information here is simply the facts about the organization. There are currently zero citations for the information there now (other than the recent edit about the BBB) and the only resource offered is our website. I am simply trying to update that info to reflect the current language and operations of MS Focus. I'm trying to figure out if the issue with my edits is content related, language related, or simply being rejected because of my admitted conflict of interest. Tony at MS Focus (talk) 20:22, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
 * If no third-party coverage of your organization exists, Wikipedia should not have an article about it; see WP:GNG. If the organization in general has been the subject of third-party coverage but the aspects you want to write about haven't, those aspects can't be all that important, and the Wikipedia article should focus on other aspects. Huon (talk) 21:50, 28 March 2017 (UTC)

Conflict of Interest.
Greetings. Please can you re-read WP:COI - you will see that you should be limiting your edits to making suggestions on the Talk page of the article about your employer. You risk a loss of editing privileges if you fail to follow the Conflict of Interest policy. Regards Exemplo347 (talk) 14:18, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
 * Hi. The edits I made were only to remove the acronym MSF from the page, since it is not used by us anymore. Based on proposed changes I put on the talk page for the entry, another Admin made the name change at the top of the article, but did not use the name change throughout. My interactions with admin over the page changes have been going on for a few days now, and I simply wanted to make sure the changes were made without anymore bother to anyone. I will no longer be making any edits to the page and will only use the Talk page. Thank you. Tony at MS Focus (talk) 16:44, 30 March 2017 (UTC)