User talk:Tonywalton/Archive-Feb-2008

babelfish
true lol and you end up having to google half the words anyway, as it doesn't know them.  Merkinsmum  23:52, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello Tony
First, thank you for your time and I am sorry if you had to get involve in this. It’s been to long though. I am getting very irritated by Megistias edits. E.g. Look what he did today: Claiming Albanian hero Skanderbeg to be Serbian? I mean come on man Serbian?? Last time he said he was Greek now Slav. I tried hard to communicate with him and even trying to make jokes (maybe some jokes was good for us, breaking the ice).I asked him to work together. I even apologize for all the fights that we have been through. What else can I do? "It’s in his blood”. By that I mean his action in Wikipedia. He acts like a vandal and pretty much you can see what he is calling me in Greek. All the time in here, he had created edit-wars in articles with a lot of users. I do feel bad and shame to get Future P again involved with this and of course you too. Your advice will be more than welcomed. Thank you.--Taulant23 (talk) 01:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

RLE International
Hi, you recently blocked the user RLE International, but on WP:UAA it says the block is indefinite (diff) and on the user's talk page it says one month (diff). Should it not be indefinite for breaching the username policy?--JD554 (talk) 14:05, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Cheers Tony --JD554 (talk) 14:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Hammerandclaw
Hi Tony,

Just a quick note that I appreciate you, and several other admins, stepping in on this. It kind of resolved itself more messily than perhaps necessary, and might have been a little less so if I had known exactly what I was doing from the very beginning. But I did learn alot about how this kind of thing works, and feel much more confident in being able to handle the next one more smoothly. --barneca (talk) 22:36, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

St. George Defence
My mistake should of used db-move rather then delete. Reason is to move page there and can't because page exists, hence requirement to delete. ChessCreator (talk) 12:13, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you ChessCreator (talk) 12:26, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Vandalism
Whoops! Thanks for fixing that :) -  Milk's   Favorite   Cookie  15:46, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Welcome. Tonywalton Talk 15:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Greeting
I assume if you're going to be "scrutinising my edits," then you will, assumingly, answer my calls for assistance if and when I call for it, no?--Hammerandclaw (talk) 22:54, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

User:She's So Fine
Go ahead and delete. I set it up long ago and never got around to using it. She&#39;s So Fine (talk) 11:28, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Will do. I'm sure you understand why we can't go around deleting userpages just on request by anonymous editors! Tonywalton Talk 11:30, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Certainly. Do I need to nominate the talk page separately, or can you go ahead and zap that also? She&#39;s So Fine (talk)
 * Already done. Tonywalton Talk 11:34, 22 February 2008 (UTC)


 * The following discussion is archived. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Thanks
Thanks, I wasn't sure how to propose a deletion on a category, but I think I got it right this time: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:User_categories_for_discussion#Category:Armenian_Genocide_deniers

Thanks a lot, I hope you'll support my decision to stop these types of POV categories. &mdash; talk § _Arsenic99_  17:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)

FYI. I added another category for deletion. In case if you want to reconsider your vote. VartanM (talk) 22:53, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Holocaust deniers and Armenian genocide deniers are the same category, if one gets deleted the other can also be deleted. If one is kept the other should also be kept. As much as I hate doing it, and I'm sure it will be kept I will open a new cfd for it. Thanks. VartanM (talk) 23:23, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Again, I apologize that this had to spill into your talkpage, but I couldn't help but answer to his WP:AGF violation. As requested I will leave you talkpage out of this. VartanM (talk) 00:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

What are you talking about?
I don't understand what you're talking about, I didn't say anything about holocaust deniers. &mdash; talk § _Arsenic99_  23:17, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * A friendly note. Please see WP:Canvassing next you nominate something for deletion. VartanM (talk) 23:25, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry I was talking to Arsenic. He mass mailed something in Turkish, which is a clearly canvassing. VartanM (talk) 23:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Well just because I messaged some people, doesn't mean Vartan wasn't messaged either, that is why he is here. Next time I won't message others to get their opinions on the issue, I didn't know it wasn't allowed. But I know for sure that Vartan was messaged by his friends, even though it may not have been on wikipedia. All I mailed in Turkish was to a couple people I met before and asked them what they think of this category, nothing in there was a suggestion that they should vote "delete". &mdash; talk § _Arseni</b><b style="color:#0077FF;">c99</b>_  23:47, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Dear Arsenic, I left comments because my wrong addition was going to effect their vote. Yours on the other hand was canvassing. I'm sure you didn't know about it, thats why I'm telling you, so next time you will know. Regards. VartanM (talk) 00:13, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Next time I will write the messages in English to show you that I wasn't influencing their decision but simply informing them, I'll be more cautious next time so thanks for pointing it out. I am still learning Turkish and I wanted the practice. But you on the other hand, have altered MY nomination for CfD (in other words you edited my words to discredit me) to make me look like a Holocaust denier, this was very wrong of you, and I hope you will be apologizing to me. You are welcome to make your own CfD entry about your Holocaust Denial. I don't come on wikipedia to argue with you, and you need to stop attacking my credibility on every turn, it's just not nice. &mdash; talk §  _<b style="color:#FF0000">Ars</b><b style="color:#FFFFFF;">eni</b><b style="color:#0077FF;">c99</b>_  02:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
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Mr. Deeds Goes to Town
Tony, the course recommended by other admins is to WP:DNFT. FWIW, I do not feel that anything constructive can come from this line of discussion. Bzuk (talk) 16:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC).
 * Absolutely, combined with WP:RBI as appropriate. I'm off for a new supply of WP:AGF tablets now. Cheers, Tonywalton Talk 16:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Can you help me?
Catholic user Cuchullain continues to censure the article Religion in the United States. --Esimal (talk) 19:56, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * He censures also advices in his talk. --Esimal (talk) 19:58, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

Hammerandclaw redux
Hi Tony,

I'm pretty sure my original gut instinct was right. FYI: Suspected sock puppets/Hammerandclaw --barneca (talk) 23:12, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I quite agree. I wonder what WP:RFCU might say. I also see that H&C is claiming that Drillerman "used his account when he was away from the computer". The sequence you presented on the sockpuppet case makes that look very unlikely, IMV. Tonywalton Talk 12:18, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I was going to file an RFCU, not to confirm the puppetry (which I think passes the duck test), but to see if there were any other socks waiting in the wings. In closing the SSP, MastCell seemed to think it might be declined, and I don't have the time to spend on filing an RFCU unless I'm quite sure it would be accepted.  Anyway, if H&C and DM are separate people, I'll eat my hat, and if there are any other socks, I'm sure my user page will be an irresistable honey pot. --barneca (talk) 13:30, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Hmmm. Thinking of changing your name to User:Honey trap, eh? (Honeytrap's taken). Tonywalton Talk 13:38, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Re:Whoops!
That's OK, don't worry about it. Happy editing. ;-) <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif"> Lra drama 14:55, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

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has smiled at you! Smiles promote WikiLove and hopefully this one has made your day better. Spread the WikiLove by smiling at someone else, whether it be someone you have had disagreements with in the past or a good friend. Happy editing! Smile at others by adding {{subst:Smile}} to their talk page with a friendly message. <span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS,sans-serif"> Lra drama 14:56, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Neopaganism
Thanks for the input, Tony.--Cúchullain t/ c 00:20, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

QPR Youth Wing
Hi I noticed your comment on the talk page of the above recently created article, and that you removed the speedy deletion tag. The user who created the article may well be a sockpuppet of a banned user who has had numerous accounts to try and get round the ban. The reason I think this might be so is because their edits are virtually always about exactly the same topic of this QPR Youth wing for which they have been banned. Plus the edit pattern of User:StevenDB seems to be the same as the banned user, User:JackQPR. It got that bad that the article, List of hooligan firms had to be fully protected from editing just to try and stop the banned user from editing. I am presuming that you are able to check if this is the same banned user? Thank you. ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 21:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Hah hah, yes indeed it is a proverbial can of worms to say the least! To be honest I would probably also agree with you that the content added does have some validity and that maybe the article is on that basis not a candidate for speedy deletion. However, when taking into account the edit pattern looks very similar to that of an indefinitely banned sockpuppeteer then on that basis should it be back for speedy deletion? What I will do though first is contact one of the Admins who was involved in all the furore which arose a while back and ask them to check him out. Though given the edits and the sources being used it does look very similar to JackQPR, and presumably if/when that is confirmed then their edits will need to be reviewed or simply deleted. What I don't want to do of course is make any accusation of sockpuettry simpley based on what I think so will wait until I can contact the admin who blocked most of the accounts! Hopefully the worm can will get a new lid soon! ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 22:12, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Ah right, no JackQPR is "indefinitely blocked" sorry for the confusion and for my mistake, I need to pay more attention to these things! This - is the list of known sockpuppets of JackQPR all of which have a very similar edit pattern to StevenDB. I have contacted the Admin who protected the List of hooligan firms article and who has also dealt with JackQPR before to see if they can check. I must say though that in this instance with the article created about the QPR Youth Wing I do agree with you that it is almost certainly notable, it is just I suppose if it is JackQPR doing it then he has done so again to try and evade his block (must remember to put block not ban!!) cheers, ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 22:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Well it just goes to show how no matter how long you edit on wikipedia there is always something to learn! I suppose though because it is an area I don't particularly enjoy with regard to wikipedia, I have paid little attention to it. The admin who was involved is User:Black Kite who I have asked to look into it. I presume that is what happened previously with the request for checkuser process and wehat will happen now. Of course it could all turn out to be a different user but I would rather make sure! ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 22:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

And just as we talk about all of this, the article goes and gets deleted! Weirdly, StevenDB for some reason put the tag back on there and added the notification to his own talk page! Oh well! ♦Tangerines♦ · Talk 22:49, 27 February 2008 (UTC)