User talk:Toon05/Archive 1

Unequal Treaties
Hello. I noticed you have placed a POV tag on the Unequal Treaties article. I would invite you to please explain your concerns on the talk page for that article, so that efforts can be made to rectify the problem. Thank you. LordAmeth 18:15, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

My userpage
"I also disagree with certain material on his userpage." - Which bits? Generally interested, because I don't see anything of contention there (unless you don't have a sense of humour [that's not directed at you by the way!]). Darkson (Yabba Dabba Doo!) 20:43, 18 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Hey, maybe "Disagree" was the wrong word, but I can understand how your "not recognising the independence of the 13 colonies" could cause friction, especially when the situation like the one on the Beckham:talk page arises. It's not major, I had a wry smile, but some may not find it appropriate. Regarding your position on the Beckham article, I think that certain (seemingly new) users have taken your edits far too personally, and the situation has spiralled out of control. Obviusly, you'll realise that some of your edits probably werent implemented...well sensitively... (honours? honors? recognitions? LOL), but I think some of the new users are having trouble with reading policy, and seem to see a make-believe "anti-USA" edit war. Hopefully some american admin can come and sort the situation out, as it's clear that Br:En should be used, and the majority of your edits were ok, as Arwel points out. Toon 20:52, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

lol
Just because I've been stealing the German's content doesn't mean I speak any. I hardly know a word honestly. But I know where you're coming from. I do real (not using google translate) translations of Japanese pages all the time, and citation issues are everywhere. The language difference isn't that much of a problem though, most editors actually roll with that pretty well, they'll use an auto-translator for as much as they can, and if they can't they don't assume anything about what they can't read. No, most of the problems with citation issues I've had are just because the other wikis are seriously held to a lower standard. People just won't ever question a huge block of text that someone made up.

I'm getting a little discouraged myself, as I find that many of the German nuclear plant articles are just kind of an environmentalist spouting off about how they should all be shut down (which lines up well with the government action...), but I do love those Kernkraftwerk. I'll take a look at the article you mentioned, but I probably won't be able to help much. -Theanphibian (talk • contribs) 02:25, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Toon05 (no worries!) I am reediting per talk msg with updates and posting notes in edits as I go...
I don't know you. You seem nice, but I don't understand this attitude that was attached with your message to me. I did write on the talk page in the section about this topic. Someone erased big chunks of the article as well as the intro, and I had to rv to start from scratch. They deleted every single reference on the lead section to the fact that he had signed to the Galaxy and was now playing for them. They also deleted many details in Galaxy section, intro and elsewhere, major links, and references. Major landmarks in the guy's carrer must be included per the guidelines. It must cover his entire career with major highlights in the lead section. Anything else we can discuss with "calm talk", but major landmarks can't be erased. Thanks. Boyceboye 02:27, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

Deletion of Windward Studios page
I would like to know why the Windward Studios page was deleted. This company has produced open source software, all of which is now freely available. Timelines for company history were given, references from many verified sources on the web were given. This article was also edited and modified by many users. I logged in today and was about to edit some changes I saw that were not relevant posted by another user when I noticed the page was deleted without warning. I believe WP rules stated that you must post to a page that is has been marked for deletion before it is deleted.

--DonnieF 16:10, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Windward Studios - Also curious as to why it was deleted
Hi;

I am curious as to why Windward Studios is deleted but pages like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/InetSoft_Style_Report, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actuate, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_Builders, and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microstrategy are acceptable.

I do not understand what it is missing from the Windward Reports site compared to these. I would just like to know what the difference is.

thanks - dave — Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidThi808 (talk • contribs) 20:42, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Jeff lavin
I declined your speedy request, because arguably there's an assertion of notability there being a professional snowboarder with some commercial sponsors. I still don't think he is notable and have nominated the article for deletion here. Carlossuarez46 20:35, 13 August 2007 (UTC)

Not sure exactly how this works
I replied to your reply at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DavidThi808#Can_you_re-look_at_it_please.3F - do you see that or do I need to repost it here?

thanks - dave

List of Fallen Canadian Correctional Workers
I have added more information and links to this article in an effort to make it more notable. Could you take a look and see if it now meets the notability criteria? Thanks. --Jeff Johnston 14:26, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to VandalProof!
Thank you for your interest in VandalProof, Toon05! You have now been added to the list of authorized users, so if you haven't already, simply download and install VandalProof from our main page. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me or any other moderator, or you can post a message on the discussion page.  Daniel  10:05, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia
Hi and thank you for welcoming me to Wikipedia - although I've been around for a while. I'm very curoius on which contributions I've made that resulted in lost information. I checked my contributions, but couldn't find anything special. I'd be greatful if you pointed them out for me. Regards, LarRan 12:40, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

David Beckham
Hi.

Thanks for the heads up on the undo policy. David's nationality is British. It is exactly like saying he's from Ohio. How is it not? I told you, England ceased to be an indepedent country in 1707. His passport says he's British (or Spanish!) Yes, he plays for  England, but does not make him English. I'm from England, and I don't refer to myself to English when speaking to people outside of the UK. I say I'm from the UK, or I'm British. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rjd83 (talk • contribs) 21:45, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

Did you know

 * Did you know that there is a newcastle United Userbox? The sunder king 16:21, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

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Your comment on Dick Donato
Please feel free to add your input on the Articles for Deletion page for this article. Thank You. - Rjd0060 23:17, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

Categories
Hi. I see you have St. James' Park in your userpages to use for copyedit. Would it be possible to remove the categories from it as the page isn't part of any of the categories, thanks. Eddie6705 22:20, 22 September 2007 (UTC) No probs. -Toon05 22:33, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Thanks again Eddie6705 22:41, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

Fabio Zamblera
Another editor has added the " " template to the article Fabio Zamblera, suggesting that it be deleted according to the proposed deletion process. All contributions are appreciated, but the editor doesn't believe it satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion, and has explained why in the article (see also What Wikipedia is not and Notability). Please either work to improve the article if the topic is worthy of inclusion in Wikipedia or discuss the relevant issues at its talk page. If you remove the  template, the article will not be deleted, but note that it may still be sent to Articles for deletion, where it may be deleted if consensus to delete is reached. BJBot (talk) 15:59, 1 February 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Fabio Zamblera
An editor has nominated Fabio Zamblera, an article on which you have worked or that you created, for deletion. We appreciate your contributions, but the nominator doesn't believe that the article satisfies Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion and has explained why in his/her nomination (see also "What Wikipedia is not").

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Date on maintenace tag
Hi, I see you removed the date from the maintenance tag in Foo fighter. Don't really understand why you did that so I have put it back. If you have a good reason you should explain in the edit summary or the talk page. Besides, there is a bot that goes round Wikipedia putting dates into all the maintenance tags that don't have them so it would not stay that way for long. The date can be useful to editors trying to fix the problem. For instance, it is often the case that the article has moved on quite a bit since the tag was put in place and it is useful to find the old version to see what the problem was when the tag was placed.  Sp in ni ng  Spark  16:17, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Redlinks
Sorry to come here with another (potential) complaint already. I see you removed this redlink. It is actually normal practice to link to to subjects which might one day have articles/should have articles. This is useful because the links already exist if someone ever creates the article and also because redlinks often encourage editors to create a needed article. Of course, you may have considered that in this case the architectural company is too small and insignificant to ever have an article. In which case my apologies for troubling you, but it would help if you said why in the edit summary.  Sp in ni ng  Spark  16:35, 9 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Thanks for replying. I'm happy with that.  Sorry if I came across as over picky but sometimes people just do not know these things.  You are obviously an experienced editor and my comments were superfluous.   Sp in ni  ng  Spark  15:21, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

June 2008
I did not put the tag on there...I put the db tag...but I did not put the hangon tag.Willking1979 (talk) 14:06, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

bella edit
Thanks for your message. I want to keep everything objective and since the article mentioned "mixed reviews" by critics i thought it should also be mentioned the fact that audiences have loved the film which is reflected in the Peoples Choice Award, the Golden Tomatoe Award and the top ratings from users of Yahoo (#1 while in theaters and #6 top rated film of all time)

At the same time i agree that most people can deduce that from the Peoples Choice Award and the other ratings.

Therefore i agree with your input

Thanks —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.109.243.218 (talk) 05:08, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

dickballs
whats wrong with dickballs —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dickballsarticle (talk • contribs) 14:23, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Apologies on HSM
I got crossed up and accidentally reverted vandalism into the article instead of out of the article. Thanks for fixing it.Kww (talk) 21:41, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for the rapid deletion
I also very much appreciate your taking the time to explain how I could have asked to get it done myself. Many thanks. Invertzoo (talk) 16:23, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Deletion of relevant and appropriate external links
I am somewhat at a loss to understand the criteria by which external links are allowed to survive or be deleted by an editor. I placed two external links in four categories that were entirely appropriate and relative to my sites. This was not an act of vandalism or spamming - it was simply adding two external links.

However, within seconds you chose to delete those external links. Which amazes me that if you had checked those links out you would have seen that they were entirely appropriate and ( with all due humbleness ) probably the most authorative and comprehensive sites for those topics. Did you bother to check the links for their appropriateness or their relevancy to the specific topic they were attached ?

Which left me wondering by what criteria an external link must meet in order to have survived being deleted.

During the surfing of the WikiPedia to find appropriate places to place an external link, I saw what I can basically say are inferior external links. Yet they were there.. ? So I will trust you can appreciate my confusion at having my humble offerings nuked.

I find it funny... only because those same hyperlinks to my sites have been included in approximately 200 hard text books by the respective authors of those books. This is something that could be searched out on Amazon.com where my sites are quoted and recommended in the books related internet security, network security, computer security and even in various 'hacker' hard cover books.

I understand the need to ensure quality and relevant additions to the various topics. I hate spammers more then anyone. And frankly the SEO aspect of having a link in Wikipedia is not my motivation. But I am still at a loss at the end of the day to understand what criteria is applied against suggested external links... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.224.127.165 (talk) 21:24, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

About removal of CSD tags and the prod of the Magpies Cafe article
Did you even care reading the logs? The article has been already deleted via an SD twice before. Apart from that, non of the external link relate to the verifiability of the contents. One of them is a broken link, other is about another business in the area and the only one that mentions the subject of the article is just a list of places that a concert is (or was) to take place. Could you please revert yourself and place the SD tag again?. Thank you. --Legion fi (talk) 22:22, 29 June 2008 (UTC)

Archive 1

Zac Efron
I know I can't revert that one anymore today. If you dig through the edit history, you will see that that "is/was" change has been a running problem, but the consensus has always been that "was" is all the reference will support. Indeed, today, I wasn't the only editor reverting the anonymous IP. Still, that doesn't class it as "vandalism", and it's not controversial enough to get a BLP exclusion. This whole family of articles is frustrating. Just enough happens in mouseketeer land that the articles can't get locked down forever in protection, but the vandalism rate is constantly high. Kww (talk) 23:40, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

About Magpies Cafe SD and my prevoius comment
Well, I did not ask you to apologize. I asked you to revert yourself. By that I was asking you to revert your last edit to that page. I think you misunderstood me. But well, I don't know if you indeed reverted your edit or not. Either way I thank you for your collaboration. By the way, I was tempted to use the G4 CSD to tag the article, but the SD guideline says that it doesn't apply to content deleted in the past via a SD. In such cases, the original criteria should be used, which was A7. That is why in my previous comment I also argued that non of the article's sources sustained its notability in anyway (In non of them did it said that it was the first Christian cyber-cafe in the area). Greetings. --Legion fi (talk) 05:42, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Edits
Having observed this dispute with interest, it is clear that you have an agenda to push. Please note Wikipedia's Neutral Point of View policy, in which we include information which is notable, and has been reported by reliable sources. This is clearly the case for the information you are trying to remove. If you can provide proof of your stats, which satisfies Reliable Source guidelines, please include them. Until that point, do not remove verified information from the encyclopaedia or you will be blocked. JohnCD has been acting the same way any experienced editor would. -Toon05 20:07, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * JohnCD appears to have an agenda too and it does nothing to further the reputation of our musicians. I understand the issues surrounding the President and CEO but what does including that information have to do with the membership of our musicians?  Nothing.  It is irrelevant to them and it hurts the reputation of our orchestra.--Phnole86 (talk) 20:59, 2 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The simple fact is, the information regarding the president and CEO has to do with the group/organisation, and not including it or removing it simply because it doesn't cast your group in a positive light would be censorship and propaganda. We must include this information in order to make this a balanced, and neutral encyclopaedia. I'm sure that you can see this point of view if you try to see the situation from a neutral point of view. I understand it is unfortunate for the reputation of the orchestra, but the blame for that isn't wikipedia for reporting it, it is the parties responsible for the incident. Please focus your attention on the problems in your organisation rather than trying to censor this encyclopaedia. Thanks -Toon05 21:17, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

Omaha Symphony Membership
You are evil and will be the reason why the Omaha Symphony fails. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phnole86 (talk • contribs) 00:37, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah. I have always suspected that I was a little bit evil. -Toon05 12:56, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
 * You could add it to your résumé. "Evil - was personally and publicly blamed for the imminent demise of the Omaha Symphony." Orderinchaos 21:01, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Might give me the edge when applying to be a professional Symphony demise-er. -  Toon  05  21:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

RE:24hourhiphop.com
I'm going to work on it in a minute.

-- Piazzajordan2 (Talk. ) 14:05, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

RE: Thanks
Not a problem! :-) --Lights (talk) 22:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Thank you --Lights (talk) 22:59, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Removing warnings
Hi, just letting you know that users are allowed to remove warnings from their talkpage per WP:Talk_page_guidelines, however when a user does this they have no excuses for further infractions. ~ Ameliorate U T C @ 00:56, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Per Ameliorate's comment above, I'm blanking my talk page. Dab121 (talk) 03:06, 7 July 2008 (UTC). Btw, can you fully blank the page, so that when you go to User:Dab121 there is a text box? ThanksDab121 (talk) 03:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi, no problem Toon. I was worried that the tone of my message would be misinterpreted, you didn't seem to take it the wrong way but, I just want you to know that I wasn't supporting Dab - I just didn't want to see an innocent user get penalised over something like that. Take care, ~ Ameliorate  U T C @ 10:52, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

spam?
The spam warning to Stangroom was correct. BLP allows individuals to list books but not to 'advertsie' them. This cover image was learly just that. Do your self-appointed job and get rid of the spam!

90.62.212.47 (talk) 12:53, 8 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The spam warning you inserted into the article Jeremy Stangroom was for User Talk pages only, that's why I removed it. -  Toon  05  17:16, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Okay, can you insert the correct one then if you agree with the reasoning?

90.62.212.47 (talk) 21:43, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Vermont Oxford Network
The author of the article does not want to continue with it. He is not responding to my messages, so he's probably offline. Could I go ahead, blank the page, and add ? -- Ŵïllî§ï$2  ( Talk! / Cont. ) 23:53, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

Any person that doesn't think Phil Taylor is the best ever darts player is a fool and doesn't know the game. Leave it in there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.55.96 (talk) 20:55, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

if you are a darts fan then you wouldn't need to ponder this. it is a fact. Plus I am not saying that he is, only that he is regarded by many followers as the best ever. No one can dispute this. Every darts commentater mentions every time he plays, go to a darts forum and do a poll. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.55.96 (talk) 20:59, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

proof, stats etc...
Leave it there then, it isn't a problem it being there. Many are asking the question is Taylor the best sportsperson ever of any sport. So it's a simple fact he's the best ever. Sid Waddell says it every minute on commentery and he's been doing darts for over 30 years.

Check out these stats... tournaments wins etc...

http://www.teessidesoftware.no-ip.com/DartsDatabase/PlayerStats.aspx

it's all there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.55.96 (talk) 21:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Are you a darts fan? whats your view? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.36.55.96 (talk) 21:38, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

Sig
my sig is fancy.if you persist i will make a simple ones [+] Respond in my Talk page :) • Autographed and Signed by RRaunak • Wanna meet him ? • 

I applaud your vandal fighting
Nice work. My troll edit survived less than 10 seconds. I concede the game to you —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.196.122 (talk) 21:07, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey, I'm not a troll
The Jetsunma Ahkon Lhamo article is extremely biased. She makes a salary of $100,000 a year, milks her students for money, and her ex-students participated in a biography by Random House that called her a cult leader. After her biography was published in 2001, Penor Rinpoche was removed from his position as the head of Nyingma lineage. A positive, upbeat article about her is incredibly inappropriate and is obviously written by one of her followers. 128.95.69.86 (talk) 21:37, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * It's documented in her biography, although I didn't have the page numbers in front of me right then. The biography was published by Random House, so concerns of libel are a non-issue. 128.95.69.86 (talk) 20:39, 17 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The only problem I saw with the changes is that they didn't specify just who had leveled pointed questions about her salary and extravagance. I supplied the references (her teachers plus the press) from her biography, although I could add another source.


 * I also went through the page and added more content detailing her shady financial dealings (well established from mainstream news sources and published to about 2 million people; in fact I've borrowed the apt phrase "shady financial dealings" from Mirabella magazine's article).


 * Out of a very long list, I cited her using $100,000 from Taiwanese donors given for an 100-foot Amitabha statue to build herself a house (one of three houses), and her taking $200,000 intended for a monastic college and using it to fund a million dollar informercial for her hair care business, Ladyworks, for which she was the sole shareholder. I also gave more context to the monastery section, explaining that instead of her supporting her monks and nuns (the Buddhist norm), they work full time jobs and go into debt to pay her $10,000 a month salary. They have little time to do spiritual practice as a result. In 1995 she had them sign legal documents releasing the temple from a monastery's traditional responsibilities to care for the ordained sangha in illness and old age.


 * Technically, Penor Rinpoche was not removed from the head of the Nyingma lineage. He was asked by the Dalai Lama to step down. But no one says no to a request from the Dalai Lama. So it wasn't optional. Longchenpa (talk) 04:26, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

spanish not is wikipedia
wikipedia not is spanish. am offended. am angry. am fernando. please talk --24.115.32.180 (talk) 21:51, 11 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Warning

This man doesn't know English.... But is a English Wikipedia member... Looks funny-- [+] Autographed by • RRaunak •  13:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Sig
Now is it good ? [+] • Autographed and Signed by RRaunak • [+] —Preceding comment was added at 05:20, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
 * It is modest...-- [+] • Ω ЯΛUNΛΣ • *¿*  •  14:22, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

Bhagwan Shree Rajneesh: Fear is The Master
How come you removed the link to the Fear is The Master documentary? Carl Towers —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.72.255.177 (talk) 13:57, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

Riograndense Republic
Apologies for the intrusion. If you've a moment; review this document: http://www.brazil.org.uk/events/machadodeassis_assets/openingaddressvilaca.pdf Footnote 7 indicates that the erstwhile republic is not a hoax and to my mind seems to be a reputable source - the only reasonable English language one I can find (I'm innocent of Portuguese I'm afraid). I haven't an iron in the ideological row that seems to be part of the AfD but as an individual interested in historical geography the debate about the veracity of the state's existence peaked my interest. Cheers. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 21:21, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

An article you created
Just to let you know (I saw it on your user page), the article you created some while back had it's title changed to this David Beckham's Soccer USA. Not sure if you want to update your userpage, your link still redirects there. — Realist 2  ( Speak ) 23:09, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Re: Your Review
I've just finished starting it, there's a question on there for you. I'll finish up tomorrow after a good night's rest. Night night! Scarian Call me Pat!  23:22, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Oops
Me and my big mouth :-) — Realist 2  ( Speak ) 20:21, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Edit Warnings
I simply removed an unnescessary edit warning from a perfectly fine page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexisKidd (talk • contribs) 23:37, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * [Unfortunately you aren't the best person to judge what is "fine" on an article you created yourself. -  Toon  05  23:38, 2 August 2008 (UTC)]


 * Considering I am the one writing and contributing info to the article, I think I'm the best person to judge wahts fine. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexisKidd (talk • contribs) 23:40, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * [Urm... no. Please familiarise yourself with wikipedia policies and guidelines, or you are likely to get banned! Thanks -  Toon  05  23:41, 2 August 2008 (UTC)]


 * Wikipedias policies and guidelines are biased against first time contributors and over zealous wannabe editors such as yourself. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AlexisKidd (talk • contribs) 23:43, 2 August 2008 (UTC)


 * [Biased against me? Ah think nawt. They may be biased against first time editors, but only if you don't listen to them. If you feel they are biased, then abide by them and challenge them in discussion on the policy pages. Breaking them is only likely to get you blocked, and no changes will be made, I can guarantee it! -   Toon  05  23:46, 2 August 2008 (UTC)]

Shearer pic

 * Cheers for the heads-up, however the image page includes a link to the website where I took it from, which clearly shows that the original image was licensed cc-by-sa-2.0, which is acceptable for WP. Maybe the earlier image was a different picture of the banner from a different source which wasn't licensed correctly.  Best of luck with getting the article to FA anyway......... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:43, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * [The issue (if my understanding of the discussion is correct) was that the banner itself is copyrighted - so it's a picture of a copyrighted picture... if you get my drift. I can't see it being a big problem. Lol, thanks! -  Toon  05  17:51, 4 August 2008 (UTC)]
 * Oh right. Heaven only knows then :-) -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:49, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

Re: barnstar
MUAHAHAHAHA!!! - Umm, I mean... Thank you! You beat me a lot, too, you just only notice it when I beat you. I have to go do something for 15 or 20 minutes, so you can have some reverts... for now........ J.delanoy gabs adds 23:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)

AfD nomination of Macaroni soup
An article that you have been involved in editing, Macaroni soup, has been listed for deletion. If you are interested in the deletion discussion, please participate by adding your comments at Articles for deletion/Macaroni soup. Thank you. Do you want to opt out of receiving this notice?  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 01:02, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * [Hello! Thanks for letting me know about the AfD (and also I gotta say it was good of you the way you handled the PROD situation). I have a little request as well, a little off topic. I notice that you speak french (hurrah!) - there's a (presumable french) user who keeps trying to submit french-language content to WP:AfC, and editing old submissions after they've been closed. I've tried communicating, but it seems that they don't speak english. Is there any chance you'd be able to drop them a line telling them to a) list their article title at requested articles or b) try the French Wikipedia. I basically said that in a message in english. The user is Sopisopi, and the article in question is located here. -  Toon  05  01:23, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Done. --  Blanchardb - Me•MyEars•MyMouth - timed 01:30, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Ah, merçi. My french is restricted to some very early schooldays stuff, mostly forgotten. Hopefully that'll take care of it! -  Toon  05  01:34, 5 August 2008 (UTC)]

Zulu Papa
Toon, what do I do? Zulu Papa does not like The Buddha From Brooklyn. Can't say I blame her. It has a lot of unflattering information about Jetsunma. We've already been through one third party review regarding this book, as requested by Zulu. The third party said that sometimes people do bad things and sometimes they're published. In this case it was published by Random House. Yet Zulu's elected to completely ignore that result and is placing dubious tags on everything she doesn't like -- regardless of the source. Positive information sourced from The Buddha From Brooklyn is left alone. Since third party resolution hasn't worked, what do you suggest? Longchenpa (talk) 01:05, 5 August 2008 (UTC)


 * We can try it, but seeing how things went with the third party review, I don't hold out much hope. I saw your comments on Zulu's page. The Mirabella article is definitely brutal, but The Buddha From Brooklyn is a different story:


 * "I realized that I would never know the truth about Jetsunma, whether she was a good leader or a very bad one. And I realized I was sad. Someday, maybe not tomorrow or next month, or even next year, but someday, I would have to stop going out to Poolesville. Someday it would be over, and that already made me sad. And as the water swirled and the shore of Maryland grew closer, I thought about devotion and what it means. There is nobility in sacrifice -- any sacrifice" (Martha Sherrill, pg 368).


 * When the book was published, everyone was upset. Both Jetsunma's critics and her supporters. That's usually a sign that the reporter did a good job. Longchenpa (talk) 04:14, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Shearer!
Yeah, you're right, I'm dead busy, but I like the subject matter so I'll make time! The Rambling Man (talk) 09:07, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * You have a plethora of comments awaiting you! The Rambling Man (talk) 12:33, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Dey Mansion
Hi. :) You might not remember at this point, but this article was automatically listed at Copyright problems/2008 July 28/Articles when CorenBot tagged it. You removed the copyvio tag on 7/28, but the article seems to have consisted only of a paste from the source, here. It duplicated the 8th paragraph and consisted of no additional information. Since that source is not released under a license compatible with GFDL, I have deleted the article. However, I wanted to drop a note here in case you remembered some reason why it might not be a concern in this particular case. There was no note at the talk page, and the edit summary only said "rm copyvio tag", so I wasn't sure. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:26, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Shearer style of play
Re earlier style of play, and/or Shearer at Southampton in general, you may want to have a word with User:Daemonic Kangaroo, who's the resident Saints expert. The only Shearer I recall clearly is the later one, with lots of elbows and not much running. General advice would be to explain anything remotely jargon-y ("who a deeper-lying forward could play off" sort of thing) for the reader who doesn't understand football terminology, and make sure it's all sourced to avoid it looking like just your opinion. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 17:16, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
 * "The only Shearer I recall clearly is the later one" I think that is really a true shame and a common thing in quite a few people. I'm guessing probably because his retirement is still recent and it wasn't that long ago he was still playing. Shearer wasn't always a 30+ y/o player and pace was very much a part of what made him a threat pre-1998, during the Blackburn days especially. Then of course the injuries took their toll and he had to adapt to prolong his career.
 * Anyway, thanks for the continued efforts Toon05 on the AS article, hope it gets the star!MattM4 (talk) 20:43, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Please take another look at
Macaroni soup. Thanks, -- brew crewer  (yada, yada) 03:32, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

Shearer banner pic
Yes, there would have to be discussion of the banner for the fair use claim to be valid, but I think the banner has received enough coverage to warrant a mention. I can add something later when I'm home, but if you want to make an edit, here are a few possible sources you could use - articles form Northern Echo and Independent and a press release from the club: --Mosmof (talk) 21:31, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
 * http://archive.thenorthernecho.co.uk/2006/4/20/223076.html
 * http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4159/is_20060423/ai_n16212474
 * http://www.nufc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10278~818314,00.html

Valentine (TV Series)
Hi, I only caught your redirect from Valentine (TV Series) to Valentine Inc after I'd done the same but the other way round. My apologies for that, hopefully it should now all be redirecting to Valentine (TV Series) as that's the official title The CW are now using in the press releases. Any problems or disagreements please let me know. (Richardm9 (talk) 21:37, 6 August 2008 (UTC))

Alan Shearer Comments removal
Hi,

I think the connection to the net had a lapse as i removed/edited those comments as they failed to appear in the page from my refreshments etc.

However, in defence of my comments, Alan Shearer publicly defended Souness in The Sun newspaper in April 2006 as he played down a comeback from his last injury which forced him into an early retirement, claiming, "I dont want to bad mouth Graeme, he's a friend." You can reference that via google via the Sun. It really doesn't matter which newspaper you get it from as they are all the same in one way or another. Plus, Alan Shearer has a good relationship with The Sun, which is well documented.

Worldwide media 'not' critising Souness relentlessly during his time at Newcastle, you have to be a deaf dumb and blind fan of the magpies to believe that. Sports media all across the world, "even family in Africa teased me about that!" were slating his attitude and lack of confidence in the players he had. He is still laughed at to this day.

With regards to the phrasing of my content, I am perfectly happy to phrase how I like, you're words are just a matter of opinion, just because it doesn't suit you it doesn't mean the world revolves around you, nor do you have sole control over this site. It's quite rude for you to ask for my phrases to be re-phrased as i didnt really say anything slangful or offensive, inappropriate nor inaccurate. If i wrote, the Daily Star reported Alan Shearer and Graeme Souness were secret lovers, abusing the players sexually on the training ground day to day, then you'd have a point.

Please be more considerate with what you edit. You wouldn't be happy if I said, I will be happy to advise you on you're future behaviour on this site if you wish. I understand that Souness dragged on a bit more than it should have on a Shearer page, but apart from that there really isnt much more to say. —Preceding unsigned comment added by ToonIsALoon (talk • contribs) 09:21, 7 August 2008 (UTC)