User talk:Toon05/Archive 3

Bill Huizenga Copyright infringement
Hello, my name is Ron Reed and I'm working for Bill Huizenga. We own the Copyright for the Bill Huizenga content and would like it to stand. Bill has been a state legislator for Michigan for years and is the republican candate for US Congress. Let me know if there's anything else I need to do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ronreed (talk • contribs) 03:13, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
 * my reply and follow up

your "Morag Siller Copyright problem" message
Hi, Thanks for your message.. But I am still unsure of how to licence this content.. Can you please give me a step by step guide on how to do this... (i.e. is it just a case of linking to the GFDL license page?)

Thanks in advance for your help, MichaelEHowe (talk) 22:51, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
 * my reply

Hi, Thanks for your reply... I have now had that statement placed at the bottom of moragsiller.com. Please let me know if i need to do anything else to get this wiki article live again.

Thanks again for your help, MichaelEHowe (talk) 02:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Munich air disaster PR
Hey dude, thanks for your comments at the aforementioned PR. I have now responded to all of them. If you wouldn't mind, could you please check my changes to see if everything seems OK now? Thanks. – PeeJay 01:16, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
 * my reply

RE: Portal:English_football/Selected_picture/5
Got it. Thanks for pointing that out to me! Garden. 22:34, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Substituting
Oops. Sorry. :D I always forget which I should and which I shouldn't. :/ I almost left you a copyvio, anyway. :) It kind of flows naturally from the fingertips!

By the way, if you haven't, you might want to duplicate your note on that article at the contributor's talk page. Once the article is gone, the talk page will probably go with it. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 00:49, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
 * Lol, I always enjoy the big red shouting when I forget to substitute some templates... the copyvio is a pretty scary one at the best of times! Ah yes, that's a very good point; it does sometimes slip my mind that article talk pages, and the often lengthy explanations upon them, are deleted along with the articles themselves... I've left him a message. :) – Toon (talk)  01:00, 21 January 2009 (UTC)

N'Zogbia/Insonmia
Hey, I think I forgot to mention it's the atual video. Here it is. Best --DFS454 (talk) 18:33, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Well in that case, as the video has probably been (illegally?) copied from the broadcaster, we can't include the video or link to it, as that could be against the law. it would be quite informative, however. – Toon (talk)  19:05, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Fair enough. Does that mean most Youtube videos are also bound to this same rationale? --DFS454 (talk) 19:13, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It does indeed, unfortunately. See WP:YOUTUBE. – Toon (talk)  01:44, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

(unindent)I'm interested in improving this article, would you know how to get a wikiproject leader to compile a to-do list for the article? --DFS454 (talk) 17:57, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It wouldn't have to be a Wikiproject leader, any experienced editor could compile a list of improvements. I've done a couple of Football GAs, and I don't mind making a few observations tomorrow; due to N'Zogbia's age and how (comparitively) little has happened in his career, a Good Article is the best the article can get to at the moment, in my honest opinion. Take a look at the Good Article criteria - the article is actually in pretty good state at the moment. I think the main issue would be references; try to get as much as you can referenced, and make sure the language is neutral and no assumptions as to motives or opinions of parties are made; for example: he impressed the club and they were keen to sign him. Is there a source somewhere which says that the club were especially keen? This could constitute original research. The next sentence also needs a source. I'll have a comprehensive look tomorrow and come up wiht a sort of review - if you want some feedback, you could try asking at the Wikiproject Football talk page, or even listing the article for a Peer Review - although it's usually only longer articles and those on the way to Featured Article status which get a lot of feedback. I upgraded the article to C-class on the talk page, as it's not far off B-class IMO. – Toon (talk)  19:13, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

Stadium
I had been meaning to put an edit summary in but i pressed move too early. I thought it was too similar to one of the others so it was to help distinguish it more. I am going to move this comment to the talk page. Simply south not SS, sorry 16:30, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

Hua-Yi zhi bian and the Unification of All under Heaven
Hi Toon05! If you have time and if you're interested, could you take a look at the above article? It has made lots of progress since an earlier version of it was deleted and since you last looked at it. Your advice would be welcome on how to improve it further, and maybe on how to rename it, because the current title appears a little bulky. Cheers, Madalibi (talk) 10:50, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Fine Art Guild
Hi Toon05! You've put a copy violation the page I wrote for the Fine Art Trade guild.

Teapot picked up a possibilty for copyright violation before. So I completely re-wrote the text with new headings etc, Teapot thought it was a much bettr re: copyright infringement. This version was substantailly different from my previous attempt to write something original about this guild.

I feel your judgement to be harsh, please re-consider the placing of this copyright violation tag  on FineaArt Trade Guild. Advice on how to write this information without straying from facts would also be of help. Thanks--Tunebroker (talk) 18:56, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Fine Art Trade Guild
Thanks for your thoughts. I definitly need help with this. Please help me create a version of this page which says the same things in a different way. --Tunebroker (talk) 22:48, 9 February 2009 (UTC)

Michael Owen
Saw your note on the talk page and think a GA improvement drive would be a great idea. I've just written the article's lead, though perhaps a couple of the more minor points could be trimmed, and rewritten the early life section (it was generally a mix of copy-vio and false information anyway). If you do start work on it I'll be happy to help you with any copy-editing/referencing/peer reviewing that you need. However, personally I would advise against an FA push at the moment as his career is bound to end within the next few years and the article could be better structured (and sourced if any new bios emerge) once his playing career is done. Cheers. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 01:25, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree with you completely there. I wrote that note a while ago now; I can't seem to find the time to commit to diving headlong into the life and times of Michael Owen. If you have that time, I'd be delighted to see the article make it to GA without my input; my toes were never really there to be stepped on. :) – Toon (talk)  01:30, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I similarly find myself pushed for time. When I write an article I heavily research it, which takes up much of my time. In fact I seem to spend as much time reverting vandalism from my watched pages as I do actually adding new improvements. It gives me food for thought over ideas about flagged revisions and "registered editors only", even though I would like to remain committed to an open encyclopaedia. Hopefully I'll find more time...
 * Oh, and good work on Shearer and the Shay man. You guys are fools for letting him go to City. It's the knackers-yard for you lot now! Sillyfolkboy (talk) 02:11, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Cheers — and don't I know it... he's been the league's best gk for years, the worst decision (in a period of making many, many bad decisions) the club has made since sacking Sir Bobby. – Toon (talk)  23:36, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Toon - Marna Gatlin - PVED, I think we have enough outside resources
Toon! It's Marna Gatlin from PVED. We have outside resources!!! I think we are legitimate now! And newsworthy! Tell me what you think! The Oregonian wrote about us, we were featured on Oregon Public Broadcasting, as well as featured on Proud Parenting and The American Fertility Association. Which is noted here on Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Fertility_Association

Can you help us now with a page of our own?

http://www.theafa.org/newsletter/images/nov2008/oped.html http://www.proudparenting.com/node/2485 http://www.oregonlive.com/news/oregonian/margie_boule/index.ssf?/base/living/123190725436410.xml&coll=7 (Interview with Margie Boule from the Oregonian) http://www.opb.org/thinkoutloud/shows/limiting-fertility/ (Featured on OPB)

PVED website: http://www.parentsviaeggdonation.org PVED Forum: http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/PVED PVED Blog: http://www.tpvedo.blogspot.com ASRM (American Society for Reproductive Medicine) http://www.asrm.org SART ( Society for Assisted Reproductive Technology) http://www.sart.org MVED Library: (Mothers and Parents Via Egg Donation Read Only Library) http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/MVED/ http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/130470.php

MDG 01:11, 25 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marnad1963 (talk • contribs)

Hi Toon! Wow! Thanks for all your help. So how do we go about getting around the massive conflict? Can you help with that? I have no idea how to write a topic for Wiki.

I look forward to working with you!

Marna MDG 23:44, 26 February 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marnad1963 (talk • contribs)

Lady Henrietta Spencer-Churchill
Hi

The correct title for this person is Lady Henrietta Spencer-Churchill not Lady Henrietta Gelber. The items in the Categories section at the bottom of the page all refer to Lady Henrietta Spencer-Churchill not Gelber.

Alias boona (talk) 18:22, 2 March 2009 (UTC)

The work of deleting IP vandalism on chem element pages
Since you're involved, I wonder if you'd like to comment on this discussion on semi-protection for element articles: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Elements Thanks! S B Harris 00:07, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Re: RfA
It's been a few weeks and I haven't forgotten about you! How's it going? Any important exams coming up or anything like that? Scarian Call me Pat!  11:24, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Assessing interest
Hi. I'm attempting to put together a project for addressing copyright issues. The primary purpose is to create a place where people who address copyright concerns can easily collaborate, particularly when encountering more difficult or complex tasks. You can see my beginning project page here. I'm trying to assess whether this is likely to fly, and you were one of the first people I thought of. :) I would be very grateful for any feedback you could give me, including whether or not this is a Project that you think would be of use/interest to you. Please don't worry about hurting my feelings if the answer is no. (You can worry about hurting my feelings if the answer is, "F&#$, no!" ;)) I'd really rather not invest a lot more time in it if it's not likely to get participants. That said, if the answer is "No, because...." and the "because" is something I can fix (such as the project page is just way overly detailed), I certainly would want to know. I think it would be a great use to me if I could get it off the ground so that I could stop running around like crazy whenever I have a question or need assistance with a problem. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 22:17, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi. Just wanted to let you know that I got the requisite 5 at the Project Proposal page, so I've moved it into project space. If you're still interested, please consider joining the small roster of members (currently = me). --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:33, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Fantastic! A great idea, I've joined the cat, and will hopefully be contributing when I get internet back for good! – Toon (talk)  22:57, 19 March 2009 (UTC)

Choke pear copyright query

 * See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthony_Appleyard#Choke_pear_.28plant.29 . Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:26, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
 * See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Anthony_Appleyard#Choke_pear_.28plant.29 . Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:48, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

LF
Thanks for keeping a watchful eye Toon. Good work you do (and fast too!)L.F.Productions 22:54, 22 March 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lostfaction (talk • contribs)
 * No problem :) – Toon (talk)  15:08, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

David Edward Reid
Many thanks for removing the deletion tag. Your help is much appreciated Dormskirk (talk) 00:20, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
 * No worries - he seems pretty notable to me! You know that any editor, even the one who created the article, can remove PROD tags, unlike speedys. :) – Toon (talk)  00:25, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

Computer tan hoax
I read the "Did you know" rules - it says articles must have atleast 1500 characters but this one has just 750. I can't think of anything else to write there «» Thanks for the message making me aware of one more area of wikipedia, by the way. Huge site :)—SV 16:47, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Great :) —SV 18:24, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

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RfA
 Scarian would like to nominate you to become an administrator. Please visit Requests for adminship to see what this process entails, and then contact Scarian to accept or decline the nomination. A page for your nomination at Requests for adminship/Toon05 . If you accept the nomination, you must state and sign your acceptance. You may also choose to make a statement and/or answer the optional questions to supplement the information your nominator has given. Once you are satisfied with the page, you may post your nomination for discussion, or request that your nominator do so. Scarian Call me Pat!  13:22, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

Alan Shearer
Hi, I wanted to get a better picture for the article so I contacted a lot of people. Thing is, I got a better reponse than expected. I was just wondering if this image had any place in the article. Plus, excellent answer to my question. Good luck. --DFS454 (talk) 19:49, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hey, thanks, I'm in the middle of answering Jennavecia's question at the moment, it's turned into a biggy so apologies if this is a little brief. I think a version of the picture which was cropped to remove the other person would actually be pretty good near the part of the article which mentions his charity bike ride. – Toon (talk)  20:05, 2 April 2009 (UTC)

hi toon. regarding A Shearers situation with the eufa pro .. I did have a link somewhere b4 that said they would no longer be allowing any special permisions but it looks like they have given him these 8 matches and as they have previously stated ..all he has to do to be ok.is be on the course...he does not have to have the badge ..next course starts in summer so I imagine he will be on it! best of luck and regards (Off2riorob (talk) 14:27, 3 April 2009 (UTC))
 * Well he may not, given that he doesn't seem to want the job full-time... I think it's one of those cases where he has the chance to be the messiah, but if he fails it was already a sinking ship... – Toon (talk)  14:46, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

well.it is going to be real exciting (Off2riorob (talk) 17:35, 3 April 2009 (UTC))
 * The atmosphere at St. James' tomorrow vs Chelsea is going to be mental. I'd expect a flurry of editing to Alan Shearer too... – Toon (talk)  20:25, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Toon!

Thank you so much for your help! I could just kiss you! This is amazing! Please let me know how I can give back to Wikipedia as well!

You are the best!

MDG 20:01, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Marna —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marnad1963 (talk • contribs) 20:01, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

How do I add a photo for Parents Via Egg Donation?
Toon -

We have a photo which is our logo, how do we add that to our PVED page article?

MDG 20:04, 4 April 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marnad1963 (talk • contribs)

Turanj
Your thoughts were right on this. I changed it to a Copyvio CSD tag. ttonyb1 (talk) 15:25, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok. I usually tag them as copyvio if the author of the article asserts ownership of the content as they did on the talk page — this gives them a week to email permission or to note GFDL release on their website. The tone of the content is probably not appropriate anyway. – Toon (talk)  15:28, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

New Fanzine...
Hi wondered if you would be interested in helping out with some articles in a new fanzine...

get in touch at tott07@hotmail.co.uk

Cheers Ken —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenuk1 (talk • contribs) 20:00, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Congratulations, you are now an administrator
I'm happy to inform you that, due to your successful request for adminship, you have now been promoted to an administrator. If you have any questions, feel free to ask me or stop by the administrators' noticeboard. Congrats! Andre (talk) 11:58, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Congratulations. :) Now get thee off to new admin school, New admin school. I'm sure it goes without saying that I'm happy to give feedback on anything you encounter, since you knew I was already happy to give feedback on anything you might encounter. That hasn't changed. :D I'm sure you'll use the mop & bucket well. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:00, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks!! Wow, lots of new buttons to make sure I don't accidentally click. Back to school time now. Thanks M, I'll certainly keep asking for your excellent advice! – Toon (talk)  12:04, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Gratz! :) -- lucasbfr  talk 15:21, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Cheers! – Toon (talk)  16:22, 9 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hey there! Well done :) Now, fancy giving me a hand clearing the CSD backlog? ;) -- Ged UK  21:08, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Cheers, I'll go get my ray gun... – Toon (talk)  21:09, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Hayward Davenport
No problem at all. (It wasn't even necessary to ask, though I appreciate the courtesy.) Cheers, --Ryan Delaney talk 00:42, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

PyQuante page flagged with copyright violations
You flagged my PyQuante page with a copyright violations. It was flagged early this morning, and then I removed the flag and put a note in the discussion page that I owned the copyright to the material. Clearly, this was not sufficient, since you reflagged the page. What do I have to do to remove the violation?

I also added a note on the main PyQuante web site that use of the material is permitted under the GFDL.

Rpmuller (talk) 01:26, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Leyden Papyrus X
This one could be a bear to work out. :/ It is a 1926 translation of a third-century Greek document. The original, obviously, is pd by age. The translation may be, depending on whether or not copyright was renewed. It was first published by Journal of Chemical Education. Wikisource:Help:Public domain sets out how stupidly complicated all this is. And I wonder now if I should link that somewhere at the copyright problems clean up board, or if that would send members screaming for the hills. :) I think I'll ask feedback from a Wikisource admin! --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * In case you're interested in the answer, I have posted the question at User_talk:Jayvdb. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:00, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I thought it'd be a bit complicated, to be honest I put off dealing with it myself at SCV for a couple of days... I'll be interested to see what the outcome is! – Toon (talk)  16:45, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * It's at wikisource:Leyden_Papyrus_X now. They'll work it out there. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:23, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I saw the log pop up on my watchlist, it amused me to see it transwikied straight to their "Copyright Problems"... I guess they must deal with this kind of thing all the time over there. – Toon (talk)  01:33, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * They have amazing copyright-fu. User:Jayvdb let me watch him at work with an OTRS ticket shortly after I joined the communications committee. It was a wonder to behold. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 01:39, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Wow it took me ages to decipher that whole -fu malarky! I assumed it meant copyright fair use, and was very confused to find an article about an American film critic... who, by the way, sounds extremely odd. And it's a strange skill-set you pick up working on these projects, that's for sure. – Toon (talk)  02:07, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Sorry. Didn't mean to confuse you. :D (I can see where the "fu" would say "fair use" to you. I didn't even think about that.) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 02:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Copyright violation
I noticed your erroneous copyright warning to he was trying to Speedy Delete the article....see this ...Modernist (talk) 21:25, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah... oops, thanks for the message, not sure why that happened. – Toon (talk)  21:28, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Why did you delete my page?Elmopedia89 (talk) 01:15, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Tsishow.com
This site page was deleted although it is similar in content and scope to many other pages from the category I listed it under, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Comedy_websites ... How do many of those pages exist there when the TSI site is not appropriate? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cheeop (talk • contribs) 02:37, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Thumann's copyright infringement. Deleted entry
I created an entry for "Thumann's". But you just removed it. I am sorry I posted this incorrectly, However I made sure I got permission from Thumann's prior to posting it publicly. I will be working in conjuntion with to get this reposted. But I am unclear what she needs to do first. Should she send an e-mail to before or after the article is posted. Buddyboy3 (talk) 11:19, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Congratulation to you Toon!
I was quite amused to get a mention in the stress section. Here are some Sunflowers for you. Good luck to you Toon.

from (Off2riorob (talk) 23:01, 11 April 2009 (UTC))
 * Ha, thanks! I was going to leave you a message about that, but then I got caught up reading all of the drama on your talk page! I probably wouldn't have had anything interesting to write had that little event not occurred, so it probably ended up doing my RfA some good, strangely enough. – Toon (talk)  23:06, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Question
I took a leave from Wikipedia for seven months or so, and I don't exactly remember everything. I remember you (you should feel proud) from my trolls to get rid of copyrighted materiel, and because of your recent admin bump (congrats by the way!), I have a question:

Would you consider this to be possibly deleted as spam? Thanks for your help.  Ŵïllî§ï$2?  ( Talk! / Sign ) 01:13, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks, there's a lot to get used to! I can see where you're coming from with the article, but I wouldn't speedy it as blatant advertising. It could do with some cleanup, and it might not be notable enough, but I don't think it's overtly promotional. Best, – Toon (talk)  01:20, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks...I'm still rusty.  Ŵïllî§ï$2?  ( Talk! / Sign ) 01:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. – Toon (talk)  01:22, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Oh, and you just deleted someone's sandbox.  Ŵïllî§ï$2?  ( Talk! / Sign ) 01:38, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I know, it was a copyright violation! I feel a little bad, as you were being helpful! But we can't host it without permission, even in userspace. – Toon (talk)  01:41, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I think, I may be wrong, that he was just holding the material so when he does send in the permission, he has the exact ASCII for it. If you don't want to restore it, I would leave a message for him saying that it can be restored.  Ŵïllî§ï$2?  ( Talk! / Sign ) 01:45, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I work over at WP:SCV, so I've a little experience in Copyright problems, I should have picked up on his userpage when I deleted the article. But you're correct, and I've left a note offering to restore it upon receipt of permission. – Toon (talk)  01:51, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks. Yeah I noticed you again when you deleted a couple articles that I had on my watchlist because I added the speedy template of  on them.   Ŵïllî§ï$2?  ( Talk! / Sign ) 02:03, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

National Treasure soundtrack
Could you please restored the article National Treasure (soundtrack). I want to know why i was not notified for article being prodded. As i was the article creator. --SkyWalker (talk) 02:46, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, no problem. You should try to address the concerns raised by the nominator, though, otherwise it's likely to be deleted by AfD. Best, – Toon (talk)  09:49, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I have redirected to the main article. I will remove the redirect once i find sufficient source. Thanks for the restore. --SkyWalker (talk) 11:25, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

Response to my report on WP:AIV
Although you marked my report as "forum-shopping" since the thread on WP:AN had been marked as "resolved", 's most recent offending edit was made after the thread on WP:AN was so marked. The low esteem in which you seem to hold the biographies of living persons policy, and your apparent willingness to play fast and loose with the facts in order to indulge and ascribe unlimited amounts of good faith to users whose sole purpose on Wikipedia has been to defame living people, is despicable. Erik9 (talk) 13:28, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I can understand your frustration, but WP:AIV is for vandalism only; you had already opened a thread at WP:AN, which was the appropriate venue (possibly WP:AN/I) given that this was a complex matter. I admit that I didn't assume good faith on your part, and I apologise for that; it seemed that you had come to AIV having not received the outcome you were looking for at AN - certainly requesting that more admins engage in discussion at the correct venue would have been a more appropriate response. It's almost impossible for an admin to make an informed discussion on soley the evidence you gave in your AIV report. This is what the noticeboards such as WP:BLP/N are for - if there is a BLP issue, take it to the place it belongs. This was a dispute, not vandalism. – Toon (talk)  13:42, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

UAA flood
I've notified the user at their talk page, and removed all those incorrect reports.  Ceran  llama chat post 12:07, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Good. It looks like he wasn't too grateful for the advice, but I think he sees the problem now. Cheers! – Toon (talk)  13:10, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I plan on not reporting user names anymore. I just wasted my time going throw the User creation log. Congratulations on your successful request for adminship.--  Michael  (Talk) 20:14, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the much needed boost..yea, As you know, I only been on here for a month and we all learn from our mistakes. Looking back on my edit counts. I have 1,389 edits. I help block over 100 Users and help 2 Users get to administrator status. I help Users out in the Category:Wikipedians looking for help and so on!--  Michael  (Talk) 21:16, 12 April 2009 (UTC)

The Working Wikipedian's Barnstar

 * Thanks! – Toon (talk)  16:46, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

Alan Shearer.
hi. Could you please clear this up. The numbers do not add up on Alan's senior appearances. people keep altering them ! Southampton 118 Blackburn Rovers 138 Newcastle United 303 total 559. this is correct I think you will know exactly. ta (Off2riorob (talk) 13:46, 14 April 2009 (UTC))
 * Hrmm, those numbers don't add up. I'll take a look. – Toon (talk)  13:56, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, your numbers are good - I've added them all up from NUFC.co.uk and compared them to soccerbase and BBC stats. The goals in the infobox were wrongly counting some of his cup goals, due to the famous Jackie Milburn-beating 206 - league goals is 283 total. Thanks for letting me know, the stats seem to get messed around with quite frequently by IPs. – Toon (talk)  15:05, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of Article Frank Fiore
Hi. It says in the logs that you deleted the article for Frank Fiore. I created the article a long time ago and did not receive a notification about an AfD. I learned that it was deleted, because I got a notification about the image for that article that is now flagged for deletion (fair use image), because it became orphaned. File:Fiore frank c.jpg. The article was also never challenged before, at least as far as I know, so I am a bit surprised that it was deleted after such a long time, because somebody who does not know or not like the author puts a PROD template into the article without telling anybody and that's it. If I missed something here, please let me know. I am sure that you acted in good faith and that we will sort this thing out. Thanks. --roy&lt;sac&gt; Talk!  .oOo. 17:39, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Blocci
Blocci is in your sockpuppet investigation for having doing what?--Blocci (talk) 16:16, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

Deletion Review: Financial Executives International
Toon05, (I sent the same message just now to Ironholds, who recommended deletion for CDS insufficient significance, now I don't know if the additional info I added to the article has caused it to appear to be advertising to you, so I'd appreciate advice from you and Ironhold so I can strike the right balance to not be insubstantive and not appear like advertising! here is what I sent Ironholds which I'd like to get your feedback on as well based on your decision to delete.

Ironholds, I am new user to Wikipedia, I noticed you marked the Financial Executives International wikipedia page I drafted for speedy review under CSD 7; after you marked it for speedy review I added some more content as to the significance of the organization's work and added more external links and a number of references from news articles, I also posted some questions in the discussion section, including, for example, that this is a professional association similar to a number of other "professional accountancy organizations" and "professional associations" (in categories by those names). Is it possible to temporarily restore the page and review it or for you to suggest what is still missing or what makes similar professional accountancy organizations writeups' significance seem more obvious and I can try to provide that information if it is not clear from how I wrote up this one. Thank you. Regards Eorenstein (talk) 00:20, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi Eorenstein, I deleted the article because it existed soley to promote a company. The article was written in such a way that it discussed content in a "what the company can do for you" kind of way, rather than providing information in an encyclopedic manner - or example sentences such as: "In addition to providing the above opportunities for its members, FEI also provides opportunities for networking and education to the general public...", "Other news about the finance and accountancy profession can be found in FEI's magazine, Financial Executive; a digital edition is available on FEI's website," and "Financial executives looking for career assistance may be interested in FEI's Career Center. In furtherance of encouraging strong corporate governance..." Are you are working for or on behalf of the company? You should check out the conflict of interest guidelines - those with close links to a subject should avoid editing articles about them. Best, – Toon (talk)  12:24, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

Toon, Thank you for the info, I do work for the association, is there a particular way I should flag that in the edit page or something, and I can rewrite in encyclopedic style, I included in my original submission in April a list of third party well major news sources that wrote about a contribution to the accountancy profession in terms of research published by FEI, etc., so I am using a variety of 3rd party sources for notability/reliability etc. What is the next step I should do to proceed in reposting? Thank you for your help. Regards, Eorenstein (talk) 21:28, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * A good start is to declare any conflict of interest on your user page, so that it can't be suggested that you are hiding anything. I still strongly recommend that you don't write about a company you work for (a pet peeve of mine, I must admit), but you need to find sources which actually cover the company in-depth; mentions here and there can be used to back up facts, but not to demonstrate notability. As I'm not convinced that the article could meet our guidelines and my concerns about conflict of interest, I'm not willing to restore the article. However, you can request a review from uninvolved editors and admins at Deletion review. If they decide that my decision was incorrect, then the deletion will be overturned. I hope this helps, – Toon (talk)  22:28, 17 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Hi Eorenstein, what Toon is saying is: Because of our conflict of interest guidelines, you cannot make any major contributions and/or edits to that particular article (you can edit absolutely everything else just as long as you're not directly related to it). The best route for you would be to visit articles for creation. There you can submit the article for consideration for another, unbiased, user to peruse over and detect its notability. I hope this clears up any missing details. Thanks and regards, Scarian  Call me Pat!  22:31, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Excellent advice, probably the ideal route, cheers Pat. – Toon (talk)  22:37, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

ExerciseTV
Please restore ExerciseTV and Talk:ExerciseTV. I added a couple references to this article a minute before you deleted it. Thanks, Cunard (talk) 00:32, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah, it must have been seconds; there was only one link in the version I reviewed. Restored. – Toon (talk)  00:36, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Thanks for restoring it! Cunard (talk) 00:37, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Oops
Thanks – xeno  talk  15:24, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Heh, wishful thinking to archive the whole noticeboard... – Toon (talk)  15:32, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigations/Blocci
Socks get blocked indef, while the master, if its their first offense will get anywhere from 55 hours to a week unless malicious (indef then). This depends on the severity of the socking though. Its not improper for the filer to do the blocking. If you would block them I can call it closed.  Syn  ergy 22:30, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah ok, I'll do that then, cheers for responding. – Toon (talk)  22:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * No problem. Us non admin clerks have to bug the admins for blocks. :)  Syn  ergy 22:36, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ok, they're both blocked. Christ there are a lot of SP templates. – Toon (talk)  22:43, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Haha. Thanks. Its archived now. If you have some time, we could use more blocking admins. If you need any help, with anything, just drop by my talk. :)  Syn  ergy 23:01, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm always happy to help if you've cases in need of admin attention - I'll probably need some walking through the etiquette mind you, as I was quite bamboozled by it all, frankly! Thanks for the help with this case, I appreciate it. – Toon (talk)  23:08, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
 * When you have free time, just go to this section. You can read over the cases and give an opinion on each if you'd like. Some will have a CU result like with your case, and some will not. Whats most important is that if you've blocked users, leave a message on the case saying you've done so. If its a relatively small case where user x is user y, and you've blocked both (or larger ones with nothing else left to do), you can add to the page and a clerk or CU (most often its just the clerks) will come by and archive it. Most non cu cases are closed per either non action (an admin reviewed and sees no reason to block) or blocks based on the duck clause. I can also generate easy reports to compare the users, showing diffs. You're welcome for the help, and I also appreciate the assistance. Best.  Syn  ergy  23:24, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

PVED LOGO UPLOADED
Hi Toon! I uploaded the file for PVED: the file name is: "marnaspved.jpg" let me know if you need anythign else. Thanks!

Marna —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marnad1963 (talk • contribs) 05:59, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Everton
Hey, cheers for your (very prompt) assistance, much appreciated. I've never awarded someone a barnstar before, so you can be the first. Cheers.


 * Thanks! It is much appreciated. – Toon (talk)  00:06, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Deletion of KForge page
Hi, I see you deleted the KForge page with log:

"deleted "KForge" ‎ (G12: Blatant copyright infringement: http://www.kforgeproject.com/about CC-BY not compatible with GFDL.)"

However, looking on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Copyright_FAQ#Can_I_add_something_to_Wikipedia_that_I_got_from_somewhere_else.3F I read the following:

"Only GFDL, CC-BY (or any other text which allows use for any purpose with only attribution), or public domain text can be freely copied onto Wikipedia."

I am therefore a bit confused as the log says CC-By not compatible with GFDL while this section of FAQ clearly indicates it is. Thanks in advance for your input.

--rgrp —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rgrp (talk • contribs) 09:39, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for your message. It does appear that there is a contradiction here, but in correspondance, the Wikimedia Foundation's legal counsel has indicated his belief that the two licenses aren't actually compatible. Copyrights are confusing, especially in licenses which haven't been legally tested and when addressed by thousands of volunteers! Sorry about the confusion, I've started a discussion to have the FAQs changed to reflect the concerns. Best, – Toon (talk)  19:15, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Hangon
So you assume that the hangon tag is not valid for longer than approximately 7 minutes, barely enough time to add references and citations and bring the article just "up to scratch"? Or do you just have a 'deleted post count' to maintain? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meniro (talk • contribs) 21:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Your last edit summary was: Notability issues addressed in relation to ShopWatch and Moissanite - references also added to article in regards - this indicates that you have addressed the concerns to the best of your abilities. In my opinion, even after this, the article meets the criteron for speedy deletion. You are free to appeal at deletion review if you feel my decision was incorrect. – Toon (talk)  21:19, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

"Contributors sometimes create articles over several edits, so try to avoid deleting a page too soon after its creation if it appears incomplete." —Preceding unsigned comment added by Meniro (talk • contribs) 22:03, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Did you read my reply? I explained my decision, you can appeal here. Thanks, – Toon (talk)  22:06, 21 April 2009 (UTC)

History of Everton F.C.
Hi. Blocked User:Waterspaces is now having a go at History of Everton F.C., though under various IP adresses (starting 79....). Following your work to protect Everton F.C. I think it'd be helpful if you could do something similar to this article. Cheers! Dancarney (talk) 10:30, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Ah. History of Liverpool F.C. has the same problem too. Dancarney (talk) 10:33, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I see Rodhullandemu has now blocked both of the IP addresses currently being used - it looks like he has used one continuously (which is blocked for a month) and has taken up another recently (blocked for 31 hours). Hopefully its a case of work/home IPs, not a dynamic one. As long as he keeps to those IPs, I think we can manage the situation with blocks, rather than semi-protection, so that no well-meaning anons are caught. I've watchlisted the two articles; if you see that he's come back under yet another IP, it might be worth reconsidering semi protection. Hopefully this'll sort it out, though. Best, – Toon (talk)  13:12, 22 April 2009 (UTC)

User:Mynameisthemasterofallofthefives
What did he do to deserve a block? It says abusing multiple accounts but I do not see any vandalism in his contrubutions. It looked like he was just trying to help and has givin up vandalism. --Abce2 (talk) 20:37, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Hi. I blocked the account because checkuser evidence (here) showed that this was but the latest incarnation of, who is blocked indefinitely for abusively using sockpuppets. Long-term vandals often create many accounts over long periods of time (called sleepers), and make legitimate edits with them, in order to reach autoconfirmed status, which allows them to edit semi-protected pages, among other things. When one of their accounts gets blocked, they can move to another (block evasion), or simply use both accounts to manipulate consensus and other disruption. I hope this answers your question. Best, –  Toon (talk)  21:34, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

Protection of Talk:Pokémon
Hi, I noticed you recently protected the talk page of the Pokémon article, citing excessive vandalism as the reason. However, I disagree with your action, because vandalism can be easily reverted, and protecting the talk page of a article disallows anonymous and new users from participating in constructive discussion. Also, WP:SEMI states that both an article and its respective talk page should not be protected at the same time. I would like to ask you to please reverse your protection of the talk page. Thanks,  Artichoker [ talk  ] 01:56, 25 April 2009 (UTC)


 * I believe it was a common sense protect; there have been few constructive additions to that talk page in a while. Scarian  Call me Pat!  03:08, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * As Scarian states, there had been few useful conribs to the page from anons for a long time. It'll be automatically unprotected in under two days time now. Best, – Toon (talk)  07:35, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I disagree; the page was fallow from April 18 until April 23, whereupon one IP repeatedly vandalized it (and has since stopped) and another, the following day, vandalized it but once. The third instance was a registered account, whose only edit thus far was to vandalize the talk page. I do not think, given the current history on the talk page, that a semi of more than 12 hours' length was reasonable, especially since the page had been fallow for one hour before you protted. - Jeremy (v^_^v Cardmaker) 09:29, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Man, you guys must be so efficient at swarming Pokemon AfDs... Anyway, Toon, the mob has spoken. I still think it was a good prot though... never mind. Scarian  Call me Pat!  11:14, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Swarming Pokémon AfDs? If you mean always voting Keep, then you are sadly mistaken.  Artichoker [ talk  ] 13:33, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Feel free to go ahead and unprotect the page, I can't say it matters to me even a little. :) – Toon (talk)  14:32, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

Thanks
Cheers! It's worrying how quickly pages such as that can be created - I suppose it's both the blessing and the curse of Wikipedia. – Toon (talk)  19:26, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:911ct supporters
Template:911ct supporters has been nominated for deletion by Ice Cold Beer. As this TfD nomination includes objections to the same list of people that is currently in use in Template:911ct, I am inviting you to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. (I am sending this message to you as a current or former editor of Martin Sheen, following the guideline on multiple messages.) Regards —  Cs32en  09:52, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Albbbbeeeennnnoooo socks
Hi Toon, since the Albbbbeeeennnnoooo sock puppetry case has been closed as obvious, should the suspected sock tags on his accounts be upgraded to blocked sock tags? Cheers! John Sloan (view / chat) 10:14, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Yep, I've switched the tags, thanks. – Toon (talk)  12:09, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice one. Good luck with the rest of the season :-) John Sloan (view / chat) 14:29, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
 * We are definitely going to need it! – Toon (talk)  14:52, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

He appears to have returned again. Check out Special:Contributions/91.109.92.148. He self-reverted on Bolton Wanderers FC though! John Sloan (view / chat) 18:31, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * I've just reverted all his other edits. This IP is on the same range as the last one Albbbbeeeennnnoooo used! John Sloan (view / chat) 18:43, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Nice work, I've blocked the IP for 48 hours, let me know if you spot any more. Best, – Toon (talk)  19:15, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Will do. Cheers! John Sloan (view / chat) 19:38, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
 * He's been active again. This time as 91.109.64.92. All his edits so far have been reverted. John Sloan (view / chat) 13:56, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * He is still active from that IP! I think it needs a block and quick. John Sloan (view / chat) 17:18, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Blocked! Sorry, your prior message got lost in another conversation I was having, so I didn't get the notification! – Toon (talk)  17:28, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I assumed as much, I decided to leave it because I thought his vandalism was over for the day. How wrong I was! Is there anything else that can be done about this guy to stop his vandalism once and for all? John Sloan (view / chat) 17:32, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Well all of his edits are coming from 91.109.xx.xx addresses, so it may be possible to get a rangeblock if there isn't too much collateral; but I've not got a clue about rangeblocks, so I'll find someone in the know... – Toon (talk)  18:01, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

I've raised the rangeblock question here, hopefully an admin who knows more about such things will be able to help. – Toon (talk)  18:46, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Got bounced to here. – Toon (talk)  18:54, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * If a rangeblock gets the go ahead, in your opinion, how long can we expect to be rid of this troll? - Also, thanks for your continued help dealing with this! John Sloan (view / chat) 19:16, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I think that'll depend on what the checkuser comes up with... if those IPs are only used on WP by this guy, then it'll probably be a week, increasing to a month etc. depending on if they come back after that. If there are other IP users from that range who edit, then the most we can really hope for is a week at a time, if that. I am being presumptuous here, as I've not much experience with rangeblocks. Hopefully, if all his edits are constantly getting reverted and his IPs blocked then he'll just give up — but then I don't really have a clue what motivates these people! And no worries, the point of me having the tools is to help clean up stuff like this. – Toon (talk)  20:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

Feedback requested
There is a conversation about copyright concerns with a particular article at Talk:Stacey Castor where I would appreciate additional feedback. Specifically, the contributor questions the degree to which we can duplicate verbatim text from copyright sources. There are also concerns about close paraphrasing. Be warned: the talk page is long, but you don't have to read it all to get context. :) There are some quote boxes that might make good reading for comparison & contrasting purposes, but it would probably be quite possible to provide feedback just on reading Talk:Stacey Castor. If you get a chance, would you mind? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:45, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Oops. Just noticed your slow internet connection above! I may tap somebody else. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:46, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'll have a look midday tomorrow, when I've woken up sober — if you need an answer sooner, I'd contact someone else. :) Best, – Toon (talk)  23:10, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Cor, this is lengthy. I've read most of the discussion on the talk page, but I think this needs more time. I have a train to catch today, so I won't be able to contribute to the discussion until later this evening — probably around 7 UTC. Sorry! – Toon (talk)  12:15, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * LOL! No problem. I haven't looked yet this morning (breakfast time in my part of the world), but even if the issues with the specific page resolve before you get there, your input would be welcome. I haven't tapped anybody else, and since you've read most of it probably won't. Don't need to put two people through that. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:20, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Heh, I'm note sure I helped much there, more like adding to the confusion :S – Toon (talk)  00:56, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Template
cool! I didn't know about that one! I can stop writing my own. :) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:32, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It may help us keep track of all the external GFDL-licensed content if the CC-BY transition happens too! – Toon (talk)  15:36, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to add documentation to it, but there are a confusing lot of parameters. Can you give me a nowikied example? --Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:41, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, it's not the friendliest template. gives you: 
 * Revision (you probably know this already) is the last set of digits on a permanent link - i.e. permalink to this page prior to my edit is: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Toon05&oldid=287657080 - the bit after oldid is what you need. That make sense? – Toon (talk)  15:50, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Yes, it does, and thanks, I did not know that already. Unless I've had to use it, I'll probably never learn it. :) I've added documentation and changed it a bit to bring it more in line with other attribution templates. I've also proposed removing its self-header. I don't see any other attribution template that has one of those. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 16:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * It is a little annoying, plus the title itself wouldn't be used as an ordinary header. It can be useful sometimes, perhaps make it an optional parameter, with a ? I'm pretty clueless about coding such things; I had a play around with the archive box template in an attempt to get a background colour option and failed miserably. –  Toon (talk)  16:59, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * For now, I've just removed it. It's not transcluded in many articles, so I'm just running through them to clean up any messes it made. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 12:35, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
 * That explains why you're popping up all over my watchlist! It's easy enough to type a header; there's no real reason to have it as an extra function. – Toon (talk)  13:24, 4 May 2009 (UTC)