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Avoid puffery
Torah28, please read WP:PEACOCK and avoid using flowery language, keeping to a neutral point of view towards article subjects. Liz Read! Talk! 12:40, 5 December 2015 (UTC)

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Please use the edit summary to explain your reasoning for the edit, or a summary of what the edit changes. Thanks! – JuneGloom07    Talk  01:40, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Hi, I see you keeping adding non-notable critics groups/organisations to the Brooklyn accolades table, including Boston Online Film Critics Association and the Abitibi-Témiscamingue International Film Festival. These were removed because their articles were either deleted at WP:AFD for being non-notable or do not satisfy the criteria at WP:ORGDEPTH to have one in the first place. Please don't add them back. - JuneGloom07    Talk  16:58, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
 * The St. Louis film critics site does not list any runner-ups with their winners, so could you provide a reliable source before changing the results. Thank you. - JuneGloom07    Talk  21:21, 2 January 2016 (UTC)

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January 2016
Please do not introduce incorrect information into articles, as you did to Saoirse Ronan. Your edits could be interpreted as vandalism and have been reverted. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them again. If you would like to experiment, use the sandbox. Thank you. Please use edit summaries. Why are you removing sourced material and including unsourced material? Please stop! Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 01:07, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

more Saoirse Ronan issues
Hello Torah28,

Your edits of 24 January 2016 seen here had several formatting issues. Please be careful when adding citations as you
 * broke the template for citation #8
 * made a wikilink to the term Vice rather than to Vice (magazine), check your wikilinks to ensure that they are going to the correct article
 * named a citation after your user name rather than giving a name that would be useful to other editors such as the name of the cited author or the title of the cited source
 * cited a blog. Per WP:SELFPUBLISH "Anyone can create a personal web page or publish their own book, and also claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published media...are largely not acceptable as sources". In addition, you put something which you said occurred in 2010 in the section titled "2003–09" rather than in the "2010–present" section.

I appreciate your enthusiasm for working on this article and I hope that I don't sound unduly harsh.

Best regards,

Mtminchi08 (talk) 23:48, 24 January 2016 (UTC)


 * Also - please use edit summaries! It'd be a help to other editors.  And to you, when you have go amend an edit you already made.  (There's a 'Preview' button, too!) Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 16:40, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

March 2016
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Edit summaries
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You're doing it again. Seriously - would it be so hard to put in edit summaries like "Added reference", "Added info about next project", "Copyedit, spelling?" Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 13:42, 26 August 2016 (UTC)

August 2016
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Please use the edit summary to explain your reasoning for the edit, or a summary of what the edit changes. Hi, you really do need to start using edit summaries, especially for non obvious edits. Sir Joseph (talk) 20:17, 29 August 2016 (UTC)

Saoirse Ronan
Is there any reason you insist on changing "Irish and American" to "Irish-American"? Users have had a discussion about this; as I've said, please see Talk:Saoirse_Ronan and discuss your opinions there. Thanks. Wolfdog (talk) 15:23, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Torah, I went on Saorise's talk page and voiced my view that it should be irish-american. for whatever reason, it's bad to think of her as irish-american, despite that being exactly what she is. I got yelled at in capital letters over it. If you support it, please say so on her talk page. Take care. Lisabedwell89 (talk) 15:52, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
 * It seems that Torah28 is unwilling to discuss. Instead, Torah, you've insisted on reverting FOUR TIMES regardless of what has already been discussed and without a single attempt to communicate with me, while I've consistently requested you to discuss. Your reverts are going against a consensus reached by a discussion you choose to ignore. I've reported your behavior to Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Wolfdog (talk) 22:48, 6 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Can you please respond at Administrators'_noticeboard/Edit_warring or participate in the discussion on the article's talk page? --Neil N </b> <i style="color:blue">talk to me</i> 01:31, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
 * I see that you've been editing but haven't responded. I'm going to close the edit warring report with a warning to you indicating further undiscussed changes to the lead will probably result in a block. --<b style="color:navy">Neil N </b> <i style="color:blue">talk to me</i> 17:04, 8 September 2016 (UTC)

October 2016
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Hi, the content is false. Saoirse Ronan does not star in the The Breadwinner. That's why it was removed. Thanks. Torah28 (talk) 12:03, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

You know what'd help, Torah? Edit summaries. Like you've been asked to do many times before. The consensus is to use "Irish and American". The MOS doesn't require the inclusion of city/state/country. Please engage on talk pages rather than edit warring. <span style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif">Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 12:52, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Irish and American is incorrect. Ronan is Irish-American. Torah28 (talk) 13:51, 9 October 2016 (UTC)


 * No, she isn't. And consensus also diagrees with you. Again - check the talk page. Last section. <span style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif">Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 12:59, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Actually no. Perhaps you should research! Like myself, Ronan has dual citizenship:'Irish-American'. Torah28 (talk) 14:14, 9 October 2016 (UTC)


 * Again, yes - read and engage on the article's talk page. Irish-American refers to ethnicity, not nationality. Nobody is disputing the fact of her dual citizenship. <span style="font-family:Verdana, sans-serif">Bastun Ėġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 15:16, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Yes, I'm fully aware that it stands for ethnicity, but it's incorrect to refer to Ronan as Irish and American. Anyone who has dual citizenship should be referred to as e.g. 'American-British' or 'Irish-American', etc. It's about being correct! Torah28 (talk) 20:15, 9 October 2016 (UTC)

Edit Warring
You currently appear to be engaged in an edit war&#32; according to the reverts you have made on Saoirse Ronan. Users are expected to collaborate with others, to avoid editing disruptively, and to try to reach a consensus rather than repeatedly undoing other users' edits once it is known that there is a disagreement. Please be particularly aware that Wikipedia's policy on edit warring states: If you find yourself in an editing dispute, use the article's talk page to discuss controversial changes; work towards a version that represents consensus among editors. You can post a request for help at an appropriate noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases it may be appropriate to request temporary page protection. If you engage in an edit war, you may be blocked from editing.You were previously warned by regarding this. -- <b style="color:blue">Dane 2007 </b> talk  21:25, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
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 * 2) Do not edit war even if you believe you are right.

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November 2016
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia, as you did at Saoirse Ronan, you may be blocked from editing. ''As mentioned to you lots of times, you are editing out of consensus and out of policy. For the city/state, the US and NY is already linked and mentioned so no need to do it again. Also please follow consensus with Irish/American. You need to participate on the talk page and not just blindly edit.'' 🔯 Sir Joseph <sup style="color:Green;">🍸 (talk) 19:42, 16 November 2016 (UTC)

Notice of Edit warring noticeboard discussion
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Hello. User keeps trolling page by adding information that's already featured on page, deleting information that is relevant like international distribution, producer and release date, and other relevant information. Torah28 (talk) 16:51, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

Phil Collins will send the Yakuza to kill yew!
This user keeps deleting relevant links to Phil Collins on other pages, such as his soundtrack work. He is also probably responsible for the chronic vandalism of Phil's page. Please cease and desist before the Fist of Ibaraki lays the smacketh down on yew! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 14.139.190.14 (talk) 05:42, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

December 2017
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Please use the edit summary to explain your reasoning for the edit, or a summary of what the edit changes. You can give yourself a reminder to add an edit summary by setting. Thanks! Sir Joseph (talk) 16:08, 4 December 2017 (UTC)

I have used edit summary. Torah28 21;53 December 5, 2017 (UTC)

December 2017
You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you remove or blank page content or templates from Wikipedia. – Davey 2010 Talk 21:41, 5 December 2017 (UTC)


 * Revert one more time and I'll take you to WP:AN3, Go to the talkpage and seek consensus for your changes. – Davey 2010 Talk 22:05, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

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There parts of the SNL article that are false 1. Only the Aer Lingus sketch caused some criticism, not other aspects of the show 2. Aer Lingus used that Donald Trump tweet as a joke and were referring to Aer Lingus sketch-only, not the whole show. Torah28 22:59 December 5, 2017 (UTC)

Personal life section- Ronan purchased a home in 2013, article states She has lived in New York since January 2016[12] but also bought a house in Howth in Ireland.[66] This is incorrect-Ronan no longer lives in Howth. Torah28 23:06 December 5, 2017 (UTC)


 * Right let me explain .... this website is a collaborative project which means we need to discuss things (like changes), you and editors in general cannot just hit undo and start reverting .... if you're reverted then you need to discuss it,
 * If you're unwilling to discuss or don't want to then you get blocked and if you carry on WP:EDIT WARRING without discussing it then you will be reblocked but for a lot longer and it will keep getting longer the more you edit war,
 * Once your block expires you need to go to Talk:Saoirse Ronan and you need to discuss your changes over there,
 * Thanks, – Davey 2010 Talk 23:13, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

Saoirse Ronan article
Hello. I don't know who you are, individual or collective - or OTT fan, or PR agency. But you called a simple corrective edit "vandalism" and that's not on. I'm just a fan of the lady, from near Howth, as it happens, was reading the article in my hotel yesterday, and literally saw it change between refreshes. Removing content known to half the US and Ireland, at least, and current. So I reverted this hack. Now same again today. I don't know what your problem is, but if you thing this is "her" wiki page, as in belongs to Ms Ronan, you're just plain wrong. It is a neutral page with facts. Not a promotional thing, not an attack thing. Now, the SNL thing, was it Saoirse's greatest moment, no, but her getting to host that show is relevant, a career milestone, and so is the criticism. I see above this page that there is some long-standing issue, so I won't spend more time on this. But please learn what "vandalism" really is. 109.252.28.12 (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 22:29, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

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December 2017
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Saoirse Ronan
Hi, Please discuss you edits on the talkpage, Thank you. – Davey 2010 Talk 17:43, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
 * You have been blocked for this before, so please stop your disruptive edits on Ronan's page. --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 13:42, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

You're disrupting the whole article- There's no need for such long winded headings! Example: 2015-present is suffice. Ronan joining the Academy isn't personal and should be under the heading 2010-present. Also, I've had to correct your grammar throughout article. You can't change the article of your own accord .Torah28 (talk) 13:50, 15 December 2017 (UTC)

I seriously do not understand your warring mentality and ownership issues on Ronan's page. You refuse to participate in the talk page discussion, and go about unilaterally removing decent contributions in favour of poorly written fluff. If you have concerns, talk about it first on the talk page. Thank you. --Krimuk2.0 (talk) 15:25, 18 December 2017 (UTC)

Sockpuppet investigation
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Nomination of Little Women (2019 film) for deletion
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July 2018
Do not use multiple IP addresses to vandalize Wikipedia, like you did at Saoirse Ronan. Such attempts to avoid detection or circumvent the blocking policy will not succeed. You are welcome to contribute constructively to Wikipedia but your recent edits have been reverted or removed. If you continue to vandalize Wikipedia '''you may be blocked from editing without further notice. ''' Krimuk2.0 (talk) 09:28, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

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Sockpuppet investigation
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Edit warring while logged out at Saoirse Ronan
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Speedy deletion nomination of Little women 2019 film


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 * Hi. An article about the same subject was deleted through this discussion. A draft exists at Draft:Little Women (2019 film). You are welcome to contribute to the draft, and publish it when the principle photography begins. Also, kindly see WP:NFILM. If there further questions/doubts, please feel free to ask. Regards, — <span class="monospaced" style="font-family: monospace, monospace;">usernamekiran (talk)  09:12, 20 August 2018 (UTC)

Little women 2019 moved to draftspace
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