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Please comment on Talk:Progressive tax
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Books and Bytes: The Wikipedia Library Newsletter
Books and Bytes Volume 1, Issue 1, October 2013 by , Greetings Wikipedia Library members! Welcome to the inaugural edition of Books and Bytes, TWL’s monthly newsletter. We're sending you the first edition of this opt-in newsletter, because you signed up, or applied for a free research account: HighBeam, Credo, Questia, JSTOR, or Cochrane. To receive future updates of Books and Bytes, please add your name to the subscriber's list. There's lots of news this month for the Wikipedia Library, including new accounts, upcoming events, and new ways to get involved... New positions: Sign up to be a Wikipedia Visiting Scholar, or a Volunteer Wikipedia Librarian Wikipedia Loves Libraries: Off to a roaring start this fall in the United States: 29 events are planned or have been hosted. New subscription donations: Cochrane round 2; HighBeam round 8; Questia round 4... Can we partner with NY Times and Lexis-Nexis?? New ideas: OCLC innovations in the works; VisualEditor Reference Dialog Workshop; a photo contest idea emerges News from the library world: Wikipedian joins the National Archives full time; the Getty Museum releases 4,500 images; CERN goes CC-BY Announcing WikiProject Open: WikiProject Open kicked off in October, with several brainstorming and co-working sessions New ways to get involved: Visiting scholar requirements; subject guides; room for library expansion and exploration Read the full newsletter ''Thanks for reading! All future newsletters will be opt-in only. Have an item for the next issue? Leave a note for the editor on the Suggestions page. --The Interior 20:39, 27 October 2013 (UTC)''

WikiCup 2013 October newsletter
The WikiCup is over for another year! Our champion, for the second year running, is. Our final nine were as follows:

All those who reached the final win prizes, and prizes will also be going to the following participants:


 * wins the FA prize, for four featured articles in round 4, worth 400 points.
 * wins the GA prize, for 20 good articles in round 3, worth 600 points.
 * wins the FL prize, for four featured lists in round 2, worth 180 points.
 * wins the FP prize, for 23 featured pictures in round 5, worth 805 point.
 * wins the FPo prize, for 2 featured portals in round 3, worth 70 points.
 * wins the topic prize, for a 23-article featured topic in round 5, worth 230 points.
 * wins the DYK prize, for 79 did you know articles in round 5, worth 570 points.
 * wins the ITN prize, for 23 in the news articles in round 4, worth 270 points.
 * wins the GAR prize, for 24 good article reviews in round 1, worth 96 points.
 * The judges are awarding the Oddball Barnstar to, for some curious contributions in earlier rounds.
 * Finally, the judges are awarding the Geography Barnstar for her work on sea, now a featured article. This top-importance article was the highest-scoring this year; when it was promoted to FA status, Cwmhiraeth could claim 720 points.

Prizes will be handed out in the coming weeks. Please be patient!

Congratulations to everyone who has been successful in this year's WikiCup, whether you made it to the final rounds or not, and a particular congratulations to the newcomers to the WikiCup who have achieved this year. Thanks to all who have taken part and helped out with the competition. While it has been an excellent year, errors have opened up the judges' eyes to the need for a third judge, and it is with pleasure that we announce that experienced WikiCup participant Miyagawa will be acting as a judge from now on. We hope you will all join us in welcoming him to the team.

Next year's competition begins on 1 January. You are invited to sign up to participate; it is open to all Wikipedians, new and old. Brainstorming and discussion remains open for how next year's competition will work, and straw polls will be opened by the judges soon. Those interested in friendly competition may also like to keep an eye on the stub contest, being organised by Casliber. The WikiCup judges will be back in touch over the coming months, and we hope to see you all in the 2014 competition. Until then, it only remains to once again congratulate our worthy winners, and thank all participants for their involvement! If you wish to start or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn (talk • email) and The ed17 (talk • email) 00:31, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Windows 8
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Slick Idiot albums
Hey! Hope everything is well with you.

A user has put up Screwtinized, S U C K S E S S, DickNity and ReDickUlous for deletion (PROD). That user previously blanked the articles and redirected them to Slick Idiot, but I objected to this without any discussion or merging of content (as I note on my talk page, I would have left them alone had this user gone ahead and merged the content). Anyway, I looked for sources and found very little (I was hoping to use Allmusic to at least verify the release dates, but even those are different). I'm not necessarily opposed to merging the content or even outright deletion, as there seems to be little coverage of these in reliable sources, but I know you have access to resources that I do not.

Anyway, if you have some time, maybe see if you can find something backing up the articles; or, if you don't think the articles are worth keeping, leave a reply and I'll leave the articles alone so they can be deleted/redirected. I'll keep looking for sources in the meantime, although honestly, aside from the CDs themselves, I don't know that there's much out there. MrMoustacheMM (talk) 19:49, 7 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Thanks for dropping a note. Unfortunately, I've found very little so far, mainly a few mentions of their headlining the Gothicfest event back in 2005, but nothing much on the individual albums.  I'll dig around some more this weekend, but yeah they might just need to merge and redirect. —Torchiest talkedits 04:29, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Ludwig von Mises Institute
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Please comment on Talk:Electronic cigarette
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WP:VG A-class
Hi Torchiest! I just read your piece from the WP:VG newsletter (I'm back after a looong absence) about A-class reviews. I wanted to let you know that I'm down to help if you need it. I've always felt our A-class process could use some work. — Mr. V (t – c)   11:20, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks! The A-Class page was actually set up after that article came out.  Go here: WP:VG/ACR.  I see that you're pushing to get NWN2 up to A-Class.  You should create a subpage there and link to it from the request you created at WP:VG/A/R.  I'll try to pop in with some improvements and suggestions. —Torchiest talkedits 16:03, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Well the article's talk page already has a discussion going, so I think I'll leave this one be for now. But I will certainly use it for future A-class noms. Also, a few years ago we had a peer review trade with MILHIST. Have you considered something like that with A-class? They could probably use some non-milhist buffs to check over their work for accessibility, just as we could use non-gamers. — Mr. V (t – c)   08:32, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

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Please comment on Talk:TheBus (Honolulu)
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Please comment on Talk:Sustainability
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Election
Yo. Would it be good to open for noms now? --Stfg (talk) 10:39, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Please comment on Talk:Alejandro García Padilla
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The Wikipedia Library Survey
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Please comment on Talk:United States
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Please comment on Talk:BP
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RM notification
I've created an RM for the naming of the Space Quest series. Since you participated in the Space Quest V RM, you may be interested in commenting on this proposal.

Thanks for the email, by the way, and I'm sorry for not getting back to you before. I hope to be more active in the Guild again in the coming year. --BDD (talk) 21:22, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Draft pages for RPG bios
Hey Torchiest, long time no talk. :) I have been hard at work on bios of RPG industry people, restoring deleted ones, sourcing existing ones, and starting new ones. Please take a look at what I have been doing with the new draft pages feature - any help you can give there may push these closing to being articles once more. :) BOZ (talk) 20:55, 24 December 2013 (UTC)

Hey Torchiest,

On a somewhat related topic, I have seen a few IP editors posting that Anthony J. Bryant has passed away, but the best I have seen so far is Facebook posts and forums as sources. Can you help me keep an eye on this one, and if possible add any better sources to this one in case what they are saying is true? BOZ (talk) 13:13, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Looks like the issue with Bryant has been fixed. BOZ (talk) 20:26, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah I checked his article first. The draft pages thing is brand new, right?  I remember reading some about it, but I don't remember if I participated in the discussion. —Torchiest talkedits 20:46, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah, the drafts pages went live a couple weeks ago. I did participate in the original RFC, because I saw this as an opportunity as a step to save possibly worthwhile articles from deletion. :) I know you don't have HighBeam anymore, but if you can add any other sources to the drafts that I link to above, that would be a big help into getting them properly restored. BOZ (talk) 22:09, 1 January 2014 (UTC)

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General GOCE questions
Hello Torchiest, I'm looking for some general guidance and wasn't sure where the best place was to ask. Please refer me, if your talk page isn't it. ; ) (I have read over and refer to the several "how to" pages, MoS, etc.)

I was adding content to (not copy editing) International Film Festival of Marrakech, simply as a matter of course, when I realized it was likely to be included in the upcoming January 2014 GOCE Drive (flagged Oct 2012). Is any copy editing not during a drive month allowed to be counted for an upcoming drive?

Also, International Film Festival of Marrakech says, "This article may require copy editing for has to be checked for mistakes and inaccuracies (correct columns etc.). (October 2012)" Do editors correct formatting (creating tables/creating/moving columns, etc.)? The article needs consistent (layout) formatting, along with supportive text (there is little), etc., but I wasn't sure that should be addressed by a copy editor/drive.

Another article I edited, List of books about skepticism, had much missing from its tables. While I contributed a lot of wikilinks and info, I wasn't sure I was doing the right thing for the blitz, as far as using the time efficiently.

Finally, I find the technical wiki mark-up how-to pages to sometimes be confusing in their language (assuming user has more technical knowledge) and light on examples. I am new and don't want to make a mistake someone else will have to fix, if I can help it. Are there more user-friendly references? Now, I Google and just choose a wikipedia url. I will muddle through, of course, as I'm still learning with each edit.

Thank you! JourneySarah (talk) 14:57, 30 December 2013 (UTC)


 * Hi there! Thanks for the questions, and sorry for the delay in replying.  I think I can answer most of your questions here.
 * We only count copy editing done during the month of the drive, so work done beforehand would not be considered part of that. But a few minor changes here and there wouldn't matter, since if you decided to do the article in January, you would still just count the entire thing.
 * I normally try to fix up tables and such when I do copy editing, but I actually wouldn't consider it required, since table formatting can require a lot of technical knowledge that many copy editors don't have. In that case, I would probably do a regular copy edit, then re-tag the article with the cleanup tag, and noting that it needed technical fixes.
 * For blitzes, as with most of our work, we're focused on the use of language itself. Technical fixes are totally okay, and there's not really any "right" way to contribute; as long as you're helping, good for you.  We're not going to dictate what you should or shouldn't do.  At the same time, you won't really be getting any additional "credit" for that kind of work, so if you're focused on getting as much copy editing done for a blitz, I wouldn't work so much on that kind of thing, unless you want to do it for your own edification or entertainment.
 * I'm not sure about technical references. I think WP:MOS is a good place to start, because it covers not just copy editing issues, but article standards in general.  I'm pretty sure that will link you off to many many other pages that contain further details on technical issues.  If not, you could always ask for help at the WP:HELPDESK or at WP:Village Pump/Technical.
 * I hope all that helps! Cheers. —Torchiest talk<sub style="margin-left:-3ex;">edits 15:24, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
 * All very helpful. Many thanks, and I hope you have a wonderful 2014. : ) JourneySarah (talk) 12:51, 2 January 2014 (UTC)

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