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I was going to edit incorrect information about Wichita Falls, Texas regarding the tornado of April 10, 1979. I have an appropriate source for the information, but when I went to add it to the references section I found simply "Reflist|2" in two sets of }'s and {'s. How, then do I add new references? I have looked at the help section, but am still stumped.


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 * You put references directly after the fact - in the body-text itself - in-between &lt;ref> and &lt;/ref>. For example;


 * ...and they automatically appear in the references section (produced by that thingy), with a linked numbered footnote.

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Changing links
I have found that a few articles about tornado outbreaks of recent years mistakenly link to the Wikipedia article on the original Fujita Scale in reference to the highest rated tornadoes instead of the Enhanced Fujita Scale. Does correcting this count as a minor edit? TornadoLGS (talk) 23:00, 11 April 2011 (UTC)


 * No; if fixing those links, I wouldn't mark it as 'minor' - and make sure you explain what you do in the edit summary. I'd only mark something as a 'minor edit' if I was, e.g., fixing a comma or possibly fixing a coding issue. If in doubt, don't mark it minor. See Help:Minor edit.  Chzz  ► 15:47, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

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General "2011 Super outbreak" wording consensus
I have found that the NWS in Huntsville put together a presentation and case study on that event specifically calling it the "2011 Super Outbreak". Here it is: http://www.hsvcity.com/cyber/DardenApril2011SuperOutbreak_Overview_CityMeeting.pdf

Anyway, I posted on the April 25-28 talk page several other reliable sources that refer to it as this. But if the NWS calls it that, I'd say it is justified for mention. Let me know what you think.

Sharkguy05 (talk) 23:54, 4 July 2012 (UTC)Sharkguy05

Category 6 hurricane
There is an ongoing discussion at List of Category 6 Atlantic hurricanes as to whether this page should be kept or redirected to List of Category 5 Atlantic hurricanes. Your input on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. United States Man (talk) 04:31, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Hackleburg tornado
You can go ahead and blend my sandbox into yours. I just copied from the outbreak page instead of doing it manually. And, I think a better title might be 2011 Hackleburg, Alabama - Huntland, Tennessee tornado because it gives a better indication of where it occurred. But either one is fine. United States Man (talk) 04:08, 28 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, I made a few changes (mostly wording and usage errors). It looks good for publishing now. United States Man (talk) 02:16, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Nice work. Gald you thought of that article because I actually never even came close to thinking about it. United States Man (talk) 03:15, 29 August 2012 (UTC)

File permission templates
I'm planning on using the radar image from this NWS report to put in an article I am working on improving. However, I'm not sure what template to apply as the two similar images and  use different formats, so I am confused as to what format to use when I add the image. Does it count as coming from the Federal Government if it is a local office of the National Weather Service? TornadoLGS (talk) 15:11, 30 October 2012 (UTC)
 * A specific tag for the NOAA exists: "PD-USGov-DOC-NOAA". As the NWS is a sub-agency of NOAA, i would suggest to use it here aswell (their website makes it quite clear, they are a NOAA sub-division). USGov works too, but is rather vague - a lot of specific sub-organizations have their own PD-tag. For a complete (maybe) list of US government-related tags see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:PD-USGov-DOC-NOAA. Hope that helps. GermanJoe (talk) 22:01, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

Winter Storm Brutus
Could you provide a link to these edits so I can explain them. I am not sure what you are talking about. United States Man (talk) 03:36, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, I've once again been engaged in war with gwickwire. Those edits were to readd an orphan tag and to add a nomination for deletion tag. You should stop by Articles for deletion/Winter Storm Brutus and offer your input. United States Man (talk) 03:53, 19 November 2012 (UTC)

Re: 1932 Deep South tornado outbreak
Thanks for the head's-up. I used UTC because it seemed to be the standard format for timestamps in other articles on tornado outbreaks. To be consistent, I used UTC to demarcate the dates as well. I am not sure whether there is a set standard as to whether to use local time or UTC to split apart dates. However, if there is none, then I would imagine that UTC would do just as well as local time, so long as consistency were maintained. But feel free to let me know whether I am wrong. Again, thanks! :) CapeVerdeWave (talk) 02:27, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the prompt response. I will be sure to conform to the protocol in future edits. Regards, CapeVerdeWave (talk) 23:46, 29 November 2012 (UTC)

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2011
Don't bother trying to get the Joplin tornado in the 2011 article. I tried to get Hurricane Irene in, but the RY nazis wouldn't have it.  Hot Stop     (Talk)   07:03, 15 December 2012 (UTC)

Re:St. Louis tornado
It looks good except for two things: 1) I don't think that nickname belongs in the lede because it isn't sourced and I am not not a fan of nicknames anyway. 2) I would get rid of the subsection header in the Meteorological synopsis section and just make it a single section. I see no reason for that subsection to be there.

Otherwise, it's okay. United States Man (talk) 20:16, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Okay, nice job on the rest. United States Man (talk) 20:32, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

2012 European tornadoes
If you have any spare time, could you please work on List of European tornadoes in 2012. Cyclonebiskit abandoned it and I am currently working on other things. I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks, United States Man (talk) 19:03, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
 * It is the European Severe Weather Database. It is a bit more complex than NCDC but not too hard to figure out. Cyclonebiskit has finished everything through late June. I will try to help some with this as well. United States Man (talk) 19:28, 31 December 2012 (UTC)

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Re: Any Tips?
I have been busy recently, so I did not have time to respond to your query; besides, even though I have been around for some time, I am not sure whether all editors consistently follow the severe-weather format for tornado-related articles. I suggest reading this for a good guideline. In many of my articles, I have tried increasingly to follow the format of the article on the April 25–28, 2011 tornado outbreak, as it has been rated a good article and seems to be a standard-bearer for long articles (and a good tutorial for smaller ones, too). At any rate, you have made a good start on the article and the details look fine—I would suggest making the Sparta – Edgefield tornado header smaller, and instead placing a larger headline entitled "notable tornadoes" just above it. Then you can place all details for the most significant and/or deadly tornadoes under individual subsets. I would also add the state after the locations, and add a slash to make the whole thing read: Sparta, Georgia/Edgefield, South Carolina. As all these subsets would be under the main section for notable tornadoes, the word "tornado" would be unnecessary in the subsets. Again, these tips are just starters; feel free to use the sources that I suggested. Best of luck! CapeVerdeWave (talk) 21:10, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I have a few suggestions: 1) Change "List of tornadoes" to "Confirmed tornadoes." 2) Get rid of the notable tornadoes heading and leave the smaller heading for the "Sparta, Georgia/Edgefield, South Carolina" tornado to slide under the table. 3) No sense in having the Coordinates column in the table if there are no Coords. So it would be good to get rid of that too. United States Man (talk) 16:29, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

About the May 24 tornadoes
The source was an email to severe wx editor here, so that may or may not work. You can view it on the talk page. The reason being behind why I feel strongly this is that I know that several meteorologist and severe WX experts have disagreed with the rating. There is no official documentation but it is common consensus among experts and enthusiasts that I have seen among forums. I can vouch and say I have done quite a bit of research over these two tornadoes, and after sifting through tons of pics and discussion with experts, I KNOW that these were. I am quite knowledgeable down to detail about how the EF scale is used, and I know that it was misused in this case and I want some kind of permanent online documentation of the controversy surrounding the ratings. I know it is hard to take my word for it, but you will be hard pressed to find anyone who edits here that is quite as knowledgeable about the EF scale than myself. And lets be logical here, the NCDC write-up is absurd, with 1 mile per hour away from an EF5 listed. Large and well built homes were swept cleanly away, vehicles were hurled and smashed to pieces, ground was deeply scoured along with pavement. This is as clear of an indication as you will get for an EF5. We need to figure out something at least for documentation purposes. Sharkguy05 (talk) 05:01, 6 February 2013 (UTC)Sharkguy05

Hattiesburg tornado article
Hello, I just created the 2013 Hattiesburg, Mississippi tornado article and the infobox needs a picture. Since I have absolutely no clue how to upload any pictures so I was hoping that you may be able to put one up for me. The one I had in mind is located here (It is the first picture under the heading "Radar Imagery"). But, if you could dig up a good damage photo or a picture of the tornado that would be good as well (Maybe one for the infobox and two in the "Meteorological synopsis" section.) Also, if you have any suggestions on how to improve the article I would appreciate those as well. Thanks, United States Man (talk) 04:43, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. United States Man (talk) 12:46, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
 * It is hard to choose between pictures 2, 3, and 5. I know picture 2 for sure. I can't choose between 3 and 5, so I will let you pick. United States Man (talk) 03:47, 15 February 2013 (UTC)

Re:Would like an opinion
Go ahead, it seems that it was probably part of the same outbreak. And if Grazulis has it listed, it is reliable enough to be included. United States Man (talk) 01:36, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for Copy Edit and move
Hi, thanks for copy editing and move of 2013 Brahmanbaria, Bangladesh tornado. -- FreemesM  (talk) 04:17, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
 * I understand from your user name.-- FreemesM  (talk) 04:27, 28 March 2013 (UTC)

Pictures for April 25–28, 2011 tornado outbreak
Would you mind adding some pictures to the sections entitled "Smithville, Mississippi", "Cordova/Blountsville, Alabama", and "Raleigh, Mississippi/Uniontown, Alabama". As I have told you before, I am not good with that. I don't care which ones you pick, but one per section should do. Thanks, United States Man (talk) 04:30, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

F4 Tornado
I am very sorry for posting on your user page. That was a total accident, I just assumed I was on your talk page. Also, I assume you know more than me about the F4 tornado in Oklahoma than I do, so I'm going to guess that you're right. Spindocter123 (talk) 23:05, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Opinion requested at Talk:May 18–21, 2013 tornado outbreak
There's currently a discussion about the format of the tornado tables ongoing at Talk:May 18–21, 2013 tornado outbreak. Your thoughts on the matter would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Cyclonebiskit (talk) 18:29, 24 May 2013 (UTC)

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Question
It may just be me, but do you think this version of List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes "jives" exactly with what this source says? United States Man (talk) 14:30, 23 October 2013 (UTC)

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thanks for telling me that about the (INFLATION ADJUSTED COST) but....
theres still one weird problem and its about Wichita Falls TX actual cost... why is it lower then what it says in wiki? they never said that the (ACTUAL) is a error tought... also can you fix the Hackleburg AL adjusted cost its not right, that's all — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.118.207.158 (talk) 18:22, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 * so do we put the cost to 277 or keep it to 400 for the Wichita falls tx tornado that's the only thing I need to know — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.118.207.158 (talk) 19:12, 18 November 2013 (UTC)


 * ok now for the last thing is that Oklahoma City Metro tornado count is 1400 but needs to be 1401, Tuscaloosa tornado is 2542 but needs to be 2543 and the Joplin tornado that's 2906 needs to be 2907 then evrething will be fix perfectly, not sure why it makes it go down by one number for... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.118.207.158 (talk) 19:22, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
 * em... the last update you did for the top 10 costliest tornado says (update inflation-adjusted death toll) when its costliest and not deadliest — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.118.207.158 (talk) 19:26, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

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On the Joplin tornado in the list of F5/EF5 tornadoes
I noticed that the Joplin tornado is listed as an "undisputed" EF5 when in fact its rating was quite controversial, with the 2013 survey in particular applying a maximum rating of EF4. Would this not put it under the category of "Official F5/EF5, but rating is disputed; event may not have been F5/EF5"? --Anonymous Macaw (talk) 20:28, 3 July 2016 (UTC)

since i have no clue how to use wiki copyright since its a bit too strict.
is it possible for you to reupload this? the jarrell tornado in its multi vortex stage or alot of people call it the dead man walking? in one of the books i have its used as a example for a multi vortex tornado.Joshoctober16 (talk) 09:30, 3 January 2019 (UTC)

Non-tornadic fatalities - consistency?
Hey there - I noticed your recent change to List of North American tornadoes and tornado outbreaks, where you said the list "didn't include non-tornadic fatalities." When I first added that entry to the table, I wasn't sure whether to include the fatalities or not. I can't say I disagree with your edit - but I have to say that I wonder about the consistency? In Tornado outbreak of April 17-19, 2019, the infobox shows "Fatalities: 4 non-tornadic." With that article being titled "tornado outbreak," would it be equally inappropriate to list non-tornadic fatalities in that infobox? What are your thoughts? Sleddog116 (talk) 18:06, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of List of United States tornadoes in May 2019


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Possible creation of "Tornado outbreak of May 30-June 1, 1999"
On the article Tornadoes of 1999, there's a small subheader labeled "May 30-June 1" however with no details other than a small tornado table. From what I was able to gather, this outbreak produced a total of 59 tornadoes and resulted in three tornadic fatalities. What's even more notable about this particular outbreak, however, is the FAA citing the severe weather as a contributing factor for the crash of American Airlines Flight 1420, which killed an additional eleven people.

Even when taking Flight 1420 out of the equation, I still feel this event meets the notability criteria for articles on WikiProject Severe Weather. It was an outbreak that produced 25 or more tornadoes and resulted in three tornadic deaths. I'm obviously not an expert however, and I know you've been around here for much longer than I have so I'd like to hear your input. Would it be worth it to create this article? Thanks, TheRMSTitanic (talk) 02:31, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
 * One thing I'd think is worth checking is if everything was from the same system. Just looking at the maps of the Tornado History project, I'm not sure if it was all one system, particularly with the tornadoes on May 30. Otherwise, I have no objections as long as there is enough information. I don't have much time to work on it myself right now. TornadoLGS (talk) 03:07, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * From what I was able to find, all 31 tornadoes spawned on June 1 were part of the same storm system. As for May 30 and 31, I can't be 100% sure. The two F0 tornadoes in Florida on May 30 were simply waterspouts that tracked inland briefly, and were unrelated to the outbreak. A waterspout that tracked inland in Alabama on May 31 was also unrelated. Two F0 tornadoes in southern Louisiana and Mississippi may have been unrelated as well, but like I said, have no way to confirm this. An F2 tornado in Michigan I believe was also isolated. This would bring the total number of tornadoes down to 59 (which I have no idea where that number came from in the first place, a source would be nice.) Since all of the fatalities and most of the strong tornadoes occurred on June 1 anyway, would it make more sense to just make the page about the events on June 1? TheRMSTitanic (talk) 17:55, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
 * I've begun work on the article in my userspace. You can find it under User:TheRMSTitanic/Tornado outbreak of June 1, 1999. I understand you don't have much time to work on it yourself right now but you're free to come help whenever you have the opportunity (especially on the tornado table as I'm far from an expert on that stuff.) If you know anyone else who can help as well, I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks. TheRMSTitanic (talk) 03:39, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
 * For checking to see which systems are which, there is some archived information at sites such as these:
 * https://gis.ncdc.noaa.gov/maps/ncei#app=cdo&cfg=radar&theme=radar&display=nexrad
 * https://www.spc.noaa.gov/archive/products/farc1997.htm
 * https://www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov/ncepreanal/

F5/EF5 Tornado List
I have started a discussion regarding the direction the List of F5 and EF5 tornadoes page has taken. You might want to check it out and chip in your opinion. --TornadoList2016 (talk) 21:26, 26 May 2019 (UTC)

1986 and 1988 tornadoes
Why do you remove that, i have source for all tornadoes and you remove it what, this is most direspectfull admin ever because you removed brooklyn park and edmond tornado of 1986 and oklahoma tornado of 1988. Then stop removing tornadoes of 1982 and 1977 additional tornadoes Alvaro ivan daniswara (talk) 22:52, 10 October 2019 (UTC)

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1984 Ivanovo Tornado Outbreak
The official TORRO website rated the Ivanovo tornado as a T10, which would be an F5. Link: http://www.torro.org.uk/whirlwind_info.php BenHip155 (talk) 13:44, 20 November 2019 (UTC)

What i Do to Get Speed Results
THIS IS WHAT I DO INSTEAD OF GOOGLE'S WAY! 1. MPH to KM/H: Multiply by 1.6 2. MPH to Knots: Divide by 1.15 3. F/S to Knots: Divide by 1.68 4. KM/H to M/S: Multiply by 1.6 5. KM/H to F/S: Divide by 1.15 6. KM/H to Knots: Divide by 1.85 — Preceding unsigned comment added by RykerKing256 (talk • contribs) 02:01, 11 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Again, 1.6 is a good approximation for most purposes, with an error of about 0.58%. I use it myself if what I'm calculating doesn't need to be precise. But, if you're going for precision, 1.60934 is more accurate. When I google "mph to km/h." I get 1 mph = 1.60934km/h. TornadoLGS (talk) 02:40, 11 December 2019 (UTC)

Tornadoes of 2020
Should I have created this page later, like on December 31? BenHip155 (talk) 19:21, 22 December 2019 (UTC)


 * This issue has come up before. I'd say the article should not exist until January 1, but if you're in the U.S. I figure you could do it on December 31 (local time) since by 7 Am EST it will be 2020 somewhere in the world. Although some people think that that yearly tornado articles should not be created until the first tornadoes of the year are reported. I've moved the article to a draft space for now, so you can move it back when the time is right. TornadoLGS (talk) 19:40, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

Ok BenHip155 (talk) 19:43, 22 December 2019 (UTC)

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Removing tornado subtitles
Hello...is there a reason you keep removing my edits that are adding interesting subtitles in the article. Example "The Easter Outbreak" in tornadoes of 2020 page? I think it can help people differentiate between the days and might make it more interesting. Smuckers It has to be good|undefined 22:53, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
 * First, I'd like to point out that I only removed the subtitle once, any other removals were by other editors. It was removed because this is an encyclopedia, not a magazine or newspaper. Sections headings in the tornado article are there to separate events and create a timeline of the tornado season. There is no need for dramatic, attention-grabbing headlines. TornadoLGS (talk) 23:06, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

ok, I understand. thank you so much! Smuckers It has to be good|undefined 23:16, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for what you do!
I just thought that I'd let you know that you are really inspiring person to look up to when it comes to editing on here. Keep up the good work! ChessEric (talk) 04:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

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Tornado report count
I know I reverted an edit on the 2020 tornado page, but the report count is actually 996 so it wasn't vandalism. The SPC just hasn't updated the site yet.ChessEric (talk) 00:35, 6 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Right, but the confirmed count was being vandalized as far as I can tell. There doesn't seem to be a basis for that number. That person is on thin ice as it is.TornadoLGS (talk) 00:39, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

Oh yeah. The 712 made no sense. LOL!ChessEric (talk) 00:45, 6 August 2020 (UTC)

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Tornadoes from NWS MEG
Can you add this please? I'm currently doing something else right now.ChessEric (talk) 21:00, 1 September 2020 (UTC)

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 * Well, the            was clearly disruptive. Also, it was a level 3 warning, which I usually do for users who clearly did a disruptive edit. Also, since you didn't respond, I guess I'll leave my explanation on your talk page. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 16:30, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Ah, okay. I usually just do level1 or 3 for first-timers. TornadoLGS (talk) 17:00, 23 September 2020 (UTC)

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thank you 😊
Thank you for responding to me about me not being able to edit pages. I dislike wrong things in pages and I want to correct them. Also thank you User:LightandDark2000 and User:Destroyeraa for responding too. 71.172.254.114 (talk) 20:46, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, no problem. Things like that need to be pointed out.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 19:19, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Expansion of tornado pages project
I'm currently working on a big project to improve upon the accuracy and in-depth details of the main tornado pages and tornado outbreak pages as well as make new outbreak pages for other events. However, I've been doing this by myself for MONTHS and the outbreak I'm currently working on is taking FOREVER. Is it too much to ask for a little help from you? I'd also like to create a Wikipedia project for tornadoes as I don't believe there is enough coverage on this.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 00:26, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've sometimes seen your edits. I might pitch in by adding information from Significant Tornadoes. As a note, though I am waiting for word from a coauthor on an off-wiki project, so my work load may increase there. TornadoLGS (talk) 02:02, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Gotcha and thank you so much! Any help from you, regardless of how much, is greatly appreciated.ChessEric (talk · contribs) 02:13, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I'm no whiz at tornadoes, and it's been >5 years since I've been close to a tornado. Though tornadoes currently fit under WPSW, there should be a task force (such as those on WPTC). I haven't been active in the project since May, so it might sound I'm living under a rock (sorry). I can help with the impacts, but the Fujita/Enhance Fujita ratings will be left with other users to do. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 02:43, 12 November 2020 (UTC)

Really? Thats weird to me considering I saw the live reconnaissance aircraft data and it showed Cat 5 winds so unless something was malfunctioning it seemed accurate. And the portion of the track they downgraded looked the best on visible and infrared satellite so I'm generally confused. Ig we'll see in the future what the NHC does with intensity and track when they revisit this season next spring. Thanks! Kade Ydstie45 (talk) 05:33, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yeah, I was thinking back to this advisory. BT data only shows cat 5 winds at 1200Z now. TornadoLGS (talk) 19:09, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
Thank you. That certainly was a nuisance. Hopefully this person will give up their puppetry career. TornadoLGS (talk) 18:44, 16 November 2020 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!
That vandal was the same guy that caused headaches for and  on Hurricane Delta. I think they will just give up, or they'll face a rangeblock and get their talk page access revoked. Great work. 22:04, 16 November 2020 (UTC)~ Destroyeraa 🌀
 * An administrator actually recommended that I might put in a request for an edit filter. I'm looking into that now, since I've seen "God said" vandalism and similar things on other articles. Ugh. This incident was the second time my talk page has been vandalized in 24 hours. TornadoLGS (talk) 22:10, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I already requested an edit filter on it. I was my first time doing so...and I don't know how to format it. It's really getting out of hand, and off-wiki non-editors are noticing it on Twitter. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 22:13, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, if it is an LTA, they won't give up. Not with their kind of motives. And the person that I suspect behind those edits (User:Wyatt2049) has shown no signs of quitting anytime soon. It would have to take numerous, heavy consequences (rapid, extensive blocks), or a lack of time on their part, for them to disappear.  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 20:08, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Sadly, the LTA IP vandalized my talk page twice, so I requested page protection. It got denied because the admins did not believe the LTA IP would come back. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 20:13, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * It really depends on the reviewing admin and the level of vandalism on your talk page. For example, you can look at my talk page. It has been vandalized by passerby vandals and LTAs repeatedly over the last few years, so I managed to get it Semi-ed repeatedly. And after all that vandalism, it was rather easy for me to get Semi-Protection reapplied when the vandalism resumed (even on a smaller scale).  Light and Dark2000  🌀 (talk) 20:15, 19 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I finally obtained page protection. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 13:48, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry
Sorry about the vandalism that the vandal did. It wasn't me. The vandal was impersonating me because the vandal hates everyone who has acted against them, and wants to disrupt Wikipedia. Sorry if you took it as me, "Destrroyeraa" is too close to "Destroyeraa." Cheers. ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 00:25, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Nothing to apologize for. At first I thought it was some joke in reference to said vandal. Ugh, might ask for semi-protection of my talk page if this keeps up. TornadoLGS (talk) 01:05, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I've already requested protection for mine. This vandal won't give up. Trying IPs has failed, now the vandal has taken to impersonating users, trying to let others blame us! ~ Destroyeraa 🌀 01:08, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

Hi, Tornado. In reply to your email, since the matter has been resolved, I would let it go. It was a simple mistake and doesn't have any wider implications for the impersonation problem. -- MelanieN (talk) 18:01, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * BTW looking at your talk page history: I would have protected it if you asked. For now the troll has been blocked so protection isn't currently warranted, but ask if it happens again. -- MelanieN (talk) 18:04, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I have a request in at RFPP now, actually, since this latest event has been the third sockpuppet to attack my talk page in two days. TornadoLGS (talk) 18:12, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * I misread your history and missed that it was MULTIPLE trolls. Your page is now protected. -- MelanieN (talk) 18:33, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, It can be a bit confusing with all the impersonators. TornadoLGS (talk) 18:37, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
 * And guess what: it turns out that ALL the impersonators were actually somebody that no-one had named or suspected!-- MelanieN (talk) 01:46, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Huh, I guess that includes the previous vandalism on hurricane articles? TornadoLGS (talk) 01:51, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hard to say. I used to be able to recognize this person when they were active on political articles, but they seem to have changed focus in recent years. -- MelanieN (talk) 01:59, 24 November 2020 (UTC) Actually, reading that investigation more closely, it turns out that they don't know who the current culprit was but it probably wasn't them. It also was not the other two LTAs who were proposed as possibilities. The upshot was that they don't know who it was but it doesn't matter. -- MelanieN (talk) 02:04, 24 November 2020 (UTC)

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Clarendon tornado
https://nwschat.weather.gov/p.php?pid=202103152350-KAMA-NOUS44-PNSAMA There was another EF 2 in Clarendon — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:EE54:AD0:25CF:3BE6:90A2:FCAE (talk) 00:48, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Hurricane Lorenzo
hi TornadoLGS i'm the 01052021a guy that can't edit can you show me how to add the correct citation for showing hurricane lorenzo being not retired — Preceding unsigned comment added by 01052021a (talk • contribs) 15:39, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * The citation you added to the article is formatted correctly, but it doesn't mention Lorenzo. You would need to find a source that specifically mentions Lorenzo as being one of the few category 5 hurricanes to have not been retired. TornadoLGS (talk) 16:01, 19 March 2021 (UTC)

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