User talk:Tornadokick1

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October 2012
Hello, I'm C.Fred. I noticed that you made a change to an article, Ellerslie School, but you didn't provide a reliable source. I’ve removed it for now, but if you’d like to include a citation and re-add it, please do so! If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thank you. —C.Fred (talk) 01:27, 7 October 2012 (UTC)


 * Your edit summary when you attempted to re-add it says, "which primary kid is willing to, or has written a book on this or publicly discussed this?" More to the point, has any newspaper or other secondary source written about the subject? If not, then the criticisms are not verifiable and should not be added to the article. —C.Fred (talk) 01:48, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Your recent editing history at Ellerslie School shows that you are currently engaged in an edit war. Being involved in an edit war can result in your being blocked from editing&mdash;especially if you violate the three-revert rule, which states that an editor must not perform more than three reverts on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit warring&mdash;even if you don't violate the three-revert rule&mdash;should your behavior indicate that you intend to continue reverting repeatedly.

To avoid being blocked, instead of reverting please consider using the article's talk page to work toward making a version that represents consensus among editors. See BRD for how this is done. You can post a request for help at a relevant noticeboard or seek dispute resolution. In some cases, you may wish to request temporary page protection. —C.Fred (talk) 01:49, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Criticism of Ellerslie School
I have left 3 comments that are have high validity and number of eyewitnesses. In the case of statement of visual evidence, it is not my burden of proof to go and drag out these former pupils for the sake of this page. An eyewitness concensus (especially that above 10 people) cannot simply be chucked away as "gossip". Nor can any negative comments specific to a person be automatically deemed as "attack" and left over, especially considering they are verifiable accounts. And for comments like "just a kid complaining" and "what is wrong with you", that is an "attack", and it's a typical ad hominem.
 * See WP:BURDEN. Yes, you do need to provide evidence in sources meeting our reliable sources guideline.- gadfium 08:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Further, if you did go interview the former pupils for the sake of the page, that would be original research, which is also disallowed for use in articles.
 * If the criticisms were significant enough to be mentioned in the article, they would also be significant to have been written about by journalists in secondary sources like magazines and newspapers (but not, generally, the student newspaper, which one way or the other lacks independence). —C.Fred (talk) 12:54, 7 October 2012 (UTC)