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Nice to see you are back
I was missing your excellent plant articles! Ruigeroeland (talk) 07:01, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Tortie tude (talk) 16:55, 24 April 2013 (UTC)

The same! I've been missing you. Choess (talk) 22:00, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you! Tortie tude (talk) 22:11, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Yes indeed! Had seen you around and admired your work, but only just now realized who you are. Welcome back! Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:41, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I appreciate it! -Tortie tude (talk) 14:44, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Crurifarcimen
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Re: DS9!
No problem, I'm just glad to improve a subject area which was rather under-represented in terms of quality content as compared to other major television shows of a similar era such as The X-Files or The Simpsons. I've identified another ten DS9 episodes should be expandable enough to meet the DYK requirements. There's some surprising ones in there, such as "Trials and Tribble-ations" (although that one is a technicality as all that stuff in bullet points counts as a list and therefore isn't included in the original article size count for comparison purposes), and "Tears of the Prophets" (which is the episode where Jadzia Dax is killed). I'm also thinking that "The Adversary" and "Homefront" might make a nice double hook as they're the two first episodes about the Changeling infiltration of the Alpha Quadrant.

Unlike the ST:TNG episodes I've been taking through GA, I'm really not doing the DS9 articles in any particular order - mostly either those ones for expansion purposes or if I stumble across a really useful reference I can use (which was the reason for improving "Blood Oath". I've got a copy of the sourcebook by the Reeves-Stevens which is about the first season, so I'm intending to create a first season article at some point as the only other season article for any of the ST series is the TNG first season (which I created last year, and I must get around to improving and taking through the GA process - as its one of five articles I need to improve further and nominate for GA in order to get the entire TNG first season at GA, and then nominate it for a GT). The Enterprise articles really are just me dabbling in something that is quite easy to do as the sources are all online once you work out where to pull them out of archive.org. Annoyingly though they didn't put the production notes for the first season of that online and never produced any companion books to the series, so its unlikely that the majority of Enterprise s1 can be improved. There is exceptions, as for example "Dear Doctor" has been mostly sourced from interviews rather than production notes - which reminds me, there was only a couple of things I wanted to do to that article before I nominated it for GA.

I think I might be babbling. :) If you want to try your hand at any ST article improvement then feel free, there's years of work due to the number of episodes and there's always potential DYKs lurking in surprising areas (i.e. Harry Kim). Another pleasing avenue of work is the improvement to the Portal:Star Trek that Cirt has just done. He's worked on a whole bunch of featured portals, so I'm hopeful that once finished (mostly once I add the content) that we'll be able to take it through that process too. Miyagawa (talk) 08:03, 26 May 2013 (UTC)

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DYK for Gloriosa superba
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IUCN template versus manual entry
Hi there, is there a reason for replacing the IUCN template form references with free form text? If the ID is failing or if the format is not consistent it would be better to discuss at the template for a change. The reason why the template is preferred is due to past problems with link changes on the IUCN site. With the template it is a single point change to fix the thousands of places where it is used. Shyamal (talk) 05:03, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The template is messy, ugly, hard to update, and sometimes broken. It always needs copyediting. When people who aren't familiar with it try to use it, it ends up looking odd. But feel free to replace my links anywhere you would like. -Tortie tude (talk) 05:42, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks. The ugly part can be discussed on the template talk. The rest can at some point be bot-maintained - the broken link is thanks to an IUCN update and that is also why the template is preferred. Shyamal (talk) 09:59, 4 June 2013 (UTC)

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Sicyonia ingentis
I've just seen your new article on Sicyonia ingentis – good work! I've made a few changes, but mostly cosmetic. I assume you'll be taking it to DYK; I would do so, but I don't want to tread on your toes. --Stemonitis (talk) 05:39, 8 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Ah please take it to DYK if you would! Thank you! - Tortie tude (talk) 05:47, 8 June 2013 (UTC)

Actually, it may be a bit more complicated than I thought. I was looking for some more up-to-date fisheries figures. FAO statistics for the years 1995–2003 show very low levels of fishery in recent years, and a California government source covering the years 1974–2006 suggests that landings were a fraction of the figure quoted by Pérez Farfante (maximally 1565000 lb in 2000). I'm not sure what to do about this, but it looks at the moment as if Pérez Farfante's quote was wildly inaccurate. Actually, reading off the graph in the modern Californian source, it looks like the value for 1982 might well be 127,000 lb; if three spurious digits were added to the end, this could become Pérez Farfante's "127,000,956 pounds". While that is a serious error, it does seem to be the most likely solution to me at the moment. --Stemonitis (talk) 06:30, 10 June 2013 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

 * Thanks!! Tortie tude (talk) 00:44, 9 June 2013 (UTC)

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I noted you put a BLP template on the talk page. There isn't a living person mentioned anywhere in the article, so I didn't understand. 7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 21:02, 13 June 2013 (UTC)
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 * ✅. I just wanted to call it to your attention.  Happy editing.  7&amp;6=thirteen (☎) 23:45, 13 June 2013 (UTC)

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Anisota virginiensis
Sorry about that, was still sleepy and wasnt paying attention. Will make a gallery as you suggested, that indeed seems better. Sorry again and keep up the good work, love your articles! Ruigeroeland (talk) 07:56, 16 July 2013 (UTC)

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I'm just letting you know that I nominated an article you started for DYK - Template:Did you know nominations/Anoplophora. SL93 (talk) 01:02, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
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A barnstar for you!

 * Thank you! -Tortie tude (talk) 17:28, 21 July 2013 (UTC)

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Your DAB page
Hello,when patrolling new pages,I found you created a DAB page,Pycnanthus,which lists no links to existing Wikipedia articles.Are you planning to create one of the articles listed in the DAB page?If not,I'll tag it for speedy deletion per CSD G6. L smll  05:00, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
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Thanks!

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I do appreciate the work you did on Hypoxis, but I'd like to make a couple of points. Firstly, there's a view which I don't always accept, but which has some validity if you read WP:RS, that primary sources shouldn't be used to establish the of a species – once it has been accepted by a secondary source, then primary sources can be used to provide details. Secondly, the material you added re use in South Africa is problematic according to WP:MEDRS, which insists on the use of secondary reviews before allowing any medical claims. Saying that there isn't yet any scientific evidence or adequate study doesn't get you off the hook, as I know from personal experience. I've discussed how to add ethnobotany information at WT:MEDRS but the editors there are quite clear that no medical claims can be made without secondary sources. Don't shoot the messenger! :-) Peter coxhead (talk) 17:30, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
 * I made no medical claims. I don't do that, because I rarely believe them myself. I "claimed" the following:
 * 1. The plant plays "a role in traditional African medicine"... this is true, you can't just say it isn't. Fact: people take the plant for health reasons. Source cited.
 * 2. "H. hemerocallidea and H. colchicifolia are the best known species used to make medicine and teas." Well, there's a bit of a judgment there, who can say what the 'best known' species are; maybe Barney down the street "knows" a third plant better. Regardless, that's what the reference (which is reliable enough IMO, but then, you probably don't think so) says, I don't care if it's a primary source or a secondary source. I cited it.
 * 3. The plant is "used in the treatment of AIDS". It is, it really is. I wouldn't use the plant to treat AIDS, but people in Africa do. That's all I said. Source cited.
 * 4. "the plant has been called a "wonder herb" and "miracle cure". Did I call it that? No. Somebody did, they were quoted, I found that vaguely interesting, and I put it in the article in case someone else might find it vaguely interesting. Source cited. If I ever say "this plant cures AIDS", feel free to delete that.
 * 5. "touted as boosters of immune system function in AIDS patients by the media and even by the South African Ministry of Health". I haven't personally read the media that touts the plant, I'm just citing what the reliable-enough-IMO-reference stated. I did not read the South African government press release that told people to take the plant to treat their AIDS, I'm trusting the reference on that. Sometimes you just trust the reference. Cited properly... at least I think so.
 * 6. "This claim has not been tested in research." Well, I don't know, maybe it has since that article was published. If so, I'm a filthy liar. Source cited... you don't have to believe it.
 * In conclusion, I don't make this shit up. Wikipedia is not written by botanists or for botanists. The Average Joe reading a Wikipedia article can make what he wants of the information. If I state "people in Africa eat this flower to cure AIDS", I'm not being irresponsible. If you want to argue about what an appropriate source is, thanks but I'm not up for it. I can cite botanical garden websites and published journal articles and government sites if I want to. I won't destroy the scientific community. If that makes me a Neanderthal, maybe avoid me and go clean up the thousands of plant articles that are utter garbage. Nitpicking my fairly reasonable, good-faith work isn't really an efficient use of time, in my insignificant personal opinion. Thank you for trying to help, though. -Tortie tude (talk) 18:16, 19 August 2013 (UTC)

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It's long been on my "to do" list to tackle the long list of genera, so I was very pleased to see that you have been doing it! Excellent work; long overdue. I'm still bothered that there's no proper sourcing of this list. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:23, 2 September 2013 (UTC)

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Nice gastropod stubs!
Hello Tortie Tude, I would like to give you hearty thanks for those much needed gastropod genus stubs! We can always use valuable help like that. I am giving you this invitation:

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 * Thanks! I find those very entertaining to write about. -Tortie tude (talk) 06:15, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

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Please do not remove or "simplify" citation details from articles, as in this edit. They do no harm, and can be exceedingly useful. --Stemonitis (talk) 15:08, 1 December 2013 (UTC) But what about eliding the contributions of Danièle Guinot and Peter Davie in the vastly significant Systema Brachyurorum paper? Wikipedia is not limited by space, so there's really no need to omit or abbreviate any citation details. First names, for instance, can be very useful for distinguishing between authors with similar names, even if you personally find it "cheesy". --Stemonitis (talk) 20:47, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
 * Right, well, the full-text articles are linked right there. If you're having trouble finding them, I'm not sure how to help you. Adding Peter and Sammy's first names won't be exceedingly useful, it's actually a bit unprofessional and dare I say cheesy. Wikipedia isn't a scientific community, it's for a general audience. Also, your citation of Worms is wrong, if you want to change it back. Thanks for not simply hitting "revert" on my entire edit, though... such a pain in the ass when people do that. Have fun. -Tortie tude (talk) 19:48, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

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Red links for taxon authorities
Tortie,

You recently removed the red links for the taxon authorities in the article for Alburnoides. I use the red links to allow readers to see the full names of the taxon authorities. This also gives other users an idea as to individuals who have contributed significantly to taxonomy and has already resulted in articles being added to Wikipedia to cover some of these individuals. Thus I would ask that you not remove the red links in these articles as they serve a positive purpose.

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 * You don't need to redlink one name 20 times in one article. That's pointless, as well as distracting for everyday users who are looking for species links and have to look through a bunch of red links to find them. This isn't an ichthyology directory, it's an encyclopedia for regular people. Furthermore, most of those contemporary authors are not notable today and won't have an article for another 20 years, if ever. And finally, don't hit "revert" just to remove one of my changes to an article. In doing so, you removed all my other changes, which were useful. That is rude and lazy. Thus, I would ask you not to do that in the future. Thanks. Tortie tude (talk) 03:24, 15 January 2014 (UTC)

Impressive work on the Muscardine article
It appears from the page history that you are the sole editor of the named page. Thank you.

I'm not convinced your use of the reference used to support the statement, "Fungicidal agents such as azadirachtin and phytoallexin have been used against some muscardine pathogens.[9]" is accurate. My read of the referenced abstract suggests that the researcher was testing the compatibility of a insecticidal preparation of muscardine causing organisms with the azadiractin and phytoallexin, and found the azadirachtin did not inhibit the effectiveness of the insecticide preparation. Not having read the full article, I can't specifically say that, but the abstract certainly suggests that. Azadirachtin typically wouldn't be considered an antifungal agent, so wouldn't likely be used in control of the insect disease.

The compatibility of azadirachtin and an insecticidal preparation of muscardine causing organisms is noteworthy, but might be more suitable in the Beauveria bassiana article. SL1358 (talk) 07:37, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

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