User talk:TouchingCloudbase

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July 2023
Please do not remove content or templates from pages on Wikipedia, as you did to List of backmasked messages, without giving a valid reason for the removal in the edit summary. Your content removal does not appear to be constructive and has been reverted. If you only meant to make a test edit, please use your sandbox for that. Thank you. Sundayclose (talk) 12:22, 25 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Hi
 * Sorry if my edit summary was unclear. My intention was simply to make a correction to the Eurythmics backmasked message. The current entry is slightly wrong - as it is in the linked reference. I provided a link to a YouTube video of the reversed track, which starts with the disputed phrase. The words are clear and I made the correction by simply transcribing the correct phrase.
 * As you will see, I very rarely (if ever) make contributions to Wikipedia simply because it's a hassle. I have to say that being told that my content removal 'does not appear to be constructive' isn't terribly reassuring or helpful. Nevertheless, I appreciate the work you and others do to maintain an invaluable reference resource.
 * If there is a better way to make the correction I suggested, then please do let me know. It would be a shame to perpetuate the error.
 * Best wishes
 * TouchingCloudbase (talk) 12:53, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * You can simply correct the wording. Where you went wrong is removing the citations that were already there and replacing it with a YouTube video of the song in reverse. Several problems with that. The video violates copyright, and Wikipedia does not allow linking to copyright violations. Secondly, simply listening to the song in reverse is not a reliable source. What I hear and what you hear can be vastly different, so that's original research. The citations that you incorrectly removed state that there is backmasked content, which does not depend on your personal opinion. On top of all that, your edit summary was deceptive; it simply stated that you changed some words in the quotation, but as I've stated you did much more than that. If you had simply changed the words, I don't think there would have been an issue. But you went well beyond that by removing the necessary citations and replaced them with something based solely on your personal opinion. I don't think you intended to make so many policy violations, but hopefully this helps you understand your errors. Sundayclose (talk) 13:23, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * OK. Thanks. I'll simply correct the wording then.
 * Best wishes
 * TouchingCloudbase (talk) 13:29, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

Please stop. If you continue to use edit summaries that are misleading, intentionally or not, as you did at List of backmasked messages, you may be blocked from editing. Sundayclose (talk) 12:24, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

When adding links to material on external sites, as you did to List of backmasked messages, please ensure that the external site is not violating the creator's copyright. Linking to websites that display copyrighted works is acceptable as long as the website's operator has created or licensed the work. Knowingly directing others to a site that violates copyright may be considered contributory infringement. This is particularly relevant when linking to sites such as YouTube or Sci-Hub, where due care should be taken to avoid linking to material that violates its creator's copyright. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing.

If you believe the linked site is not violating copyright with respect to the material, then you should do one of the following:
 * If the linked site is the copyright holder, leave a message explaining the details on the article Talk page;
 * If a note on the linked site credibly claims permission to host the material, or a note on the copyright holder's site grants such permission, leave a note on the article Talk page with a link to where we can find that note;
 * If you are the copyright holder or the external site administrator, adjust the linked site to indicate permission as above and leave a note on the article Talk page;

If the material is available on a different site that satisfies one of the above conditions, link to that site instead. Sundayclose (talk) 12:26, 25 July 2023 (UTC)