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Thanks John Trần Ái Quốc (talk) 14:53, 30 October 2011 (UTC)

Bạn phải đọc kỹ hướng dẫn viết bài
Chào Quốc, mình thấy bạn thay đổi rất nhiều nội dung trong các bài về Vietnam People's Army, Vietnam People's Navy, Vietnam People's Air Force,... Cám ơn bạn vì những đóng góp. Nhưng bạn phải lưu ý là wikipedia có những quy chuẩn viết và đăng bài rất nghiêm ngặt, đặc biệt là về quy chuẩn khung cố định gọi là Template, thường được ký hiệu đóng mở bằng 2 dấu ...

Đó là Template quy chuẩn, khởi tạo rất mất thời gian và phải được kiểm tra bởi admin tổng. Sau khi kiểm tra sẽ trở thành khung-template cố định. Bạn đừng thay đổi bất kỳ gì trong nội dung của template, vì nó sẽ không hiện lên trang chính. Hơn nữa, quy chuẩn đặt hình ảnh cũng phải đọc kỹ, bạn đẩy hình quân kỳ Việt Nam lên phần mở đầu, nó không thể hiện ra được mà còn phá nát cấu trúc những hình phía dưới. Mình đã phải dùng nick Anh Hoc sửa lại rất nhiều.

Về các binh chủng-branches của các quân chủng thì bạn cũng không thể tự ý đưa vào được, phải có nguồn trích dẫn khả thi, và tương ứng với template military units, bất cứ thông tin mới lạ nào cũng phải có nguồn trích dẫn, không nên tự ý đưa vào hay xóa đi.

Mình đã tạo mới nhiều template cho Việt Nam: tất cả template về huân chương và danh hiệu, template về xuất thân Việt Nam cho các user trên Common wiki,... Mình khuyên bạn nên đọc thật kỹ hướng dẫn quy chuẩn của wiki rồi hãy viết bài nhé. Chúc bạn vui!
 * Thanks bạn Trần Ái Quốc (talk) 07:40, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Về hình ảnh
Bạn vào link user talk của mình trên common để dễ trò chuyện. Còn về hình ảnh, vấn đề bản quyền và giấy phép rất nghiêm khắc, mình bị block vĩnh viễn 2 nick là Prince Sophia và Trungkiendo cũng vì chưa nắm rõ luật mà đã úp quá trời hình. Từ khi vào Common thì mình tiến bộ hẳn. Còn vụ logo của Biên phòng thì đúng là như vậy, đó là quy định của Nhà nước bạn ạ, có văn bản của quốc hội quy định quân hiệu, quân phục, quân hàm,... đấy. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dokientrung (talk • contribs) 13:50, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Vậy bạn cần mình gửi cái biểu tượng Biên phòng (khẩu súng và thanh gươm đặt chéo trên móng ngựa) cho bạn không? Trần Ái Quốc (talk) 13:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Cám ơn bạn
Cám ơn bạn về lời khen. Mình chủ yếu upload hình trên Common Wikipedia nên bạn có thể gia nhập cộng đồng Common Wiki để nâng trình độ và đẳng cấp, cũng thuận lợi trò chuyện hơn:http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Dokientrung

Mình thường dùng common wiki để up hình và viết bài cũng như chỉnh sửa bằng nick "Anh Hoc" và "Prince Sophia". Mình đã tạo mới rất nhiều trang: Vietnam award and decoration, Vietnam Marine Police, Vietnam Border Defense Force, Vietnam Naval Academy, List of equipment of Vietnam People's Army, Key universities of Vietnam,... và hoàn thiện các trang: Vietnam People's Army, Vietnam People's Navy, Vietnam People's Air Force,...

Chúc bạn vui và sớm tham gia cộng đồng Common Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dokientrung (talk • contribs) 13:21, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

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Về việc tài phù hiệu quân đội nhân dân Việt Nam
Chào bạn, mình đã thử up lên trang tiếng Việt, nhưng không được. Để mình thử lại. Thật ra mình chủ yếu cố gắng viết trong trang tiếng Anh, vì mình nghĩ rằng bạn bè thế giới muốn hiểu về đất nước mình thì trang tiếng Anh là hay nhất, vì ít người nước ngoài nào biết tiếng Việt. Những trang mình đã tạo mới, viết bổ sung và up hình chủ yếu là: Vietnam People's Army, Vietnam People's Air Force, Vietnam People's Navy, Vietnam Marine Police, Vietnam Border Defense Force, Vietnam awards and decorations, Vietnamese military ranks and insignia. Hiện trang Vietnam Marine Police mình vẫn chưa có hình nào đáng kể ngoại trừ Logo và vài hình mình tự vẽ, vì không biết cách xin bản quyền tác giả từ nhiếp ảnh gia. Mình thử up nhiều lắm, cũng gắn link sourse, giấy phép,... nhưng đều bị xóa vì bản quyền, mình cũng bị khóa 1 user vì lỗi đó (mình có 3 user). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trungkiendo (talk • contribs) 09:32, 26 December 2011 (UTC) thanks bạn rất nhiều, hiện mình đang up hình quân đội nhân dân việt nam từ wiki tiếng anh Trần Ái Quốc (talk) 10:02, 26 December 2011 (UTC) bạn vào đây thử xem, có thể giúp bạn d0ược vài thứ http://vi.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C4%90%E1%BA%B7c_bi%E1%BB%87t:T%E1%BA%A3i_l%C3%AAn&uselang=vi-otherwiki Trần Ái Quốc (talk) 10:05, 26 December 2011 (UTC)

December 2011
Welcome to Wikipedia. It might not have been your intention, but your recent edit removed content from Vietnam People's Ground Forces with this edit. When removing content, please specify a reason in the edit summary and discuss edits that are likely to be controversial on the article's talk page. If this was a mistake, don't worry; the content has been restored, as you can see from the [//en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Vietnam_People%27s_Ground_Forces&action=history page history]. Take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia, and if you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. Thank you. Jim1138 (talk) 02:54, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks Jim, Vietnam People's Ground Force is a branch of Vietnam People's Army so it is incorrect to redirect the Vietnam People's Ground Force to Vietnam People's Army Trần Ái Quốc (talk) 02:57, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Sorry for reverting your edit. If you use the edit summary, it would help the vandal patrol understand your intentions.  Please feel free to delete the warning.  Thanks for your contributions!  Jim1138 (talk) 03:01, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Thanks very much Trần Ái Quốc (talk) 03:02, 29 December 2011 (UTC)

Vandalism on "Vietnam War"
I saw you had made an unconstructive edit at the article about the Vietnam War. You have written that China and Soviet had no troops in Vietnam, though China had as 170 000 soldiers there! And Soviet had 3000 troops there. And so you wrote that North Korea was the only foreign country to be allied with Vietnam to have troops in Vietnam, while THEY had only 300 troops, being 10 times smaller than the Soviet contribution! And more than 500 times smaller than the CHINESE contribution. For me, it seems like this is an edit made to make a bad illusion on Vietnam, and that you are a big supporter of the USA and support the Vietnam War. North Korea made the SMALLEST contribution of ANYONE on Vietnamese side! Maybe you don't know it, but in Vietnam, US troops killed 2 500 000 civilians or more. To SUPPORT THAT alone is nearly impossible, but it seems like YOU do. We ALL know what's happening in North Korea. To make the illusion that only they participated don't seem to be from a hippie at least... --153.110.194.139 (talk) 13:34, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * sorry about that, but I support Vietnam because my uncle was a vietcong. So it's just a misunderstanding. I will change it now. Thanks for reminding me that, but I think we should put North Korea, Soviet and China as support because the troops they sent were to train NVA, not truly fought in battles. Trần Ái Quốc (talk) 13:40, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Big supporter of the USA? that doesn't make any sense. And correction: North Korea (Mien Bac Cong San Dai Han) was not on the "Vietnamese side" rather the "North Vietnamese" or "communist" side. since when were all Vietnamese on the same side in the VIETNAM war? for that user on 153.110.194.139, the vietnam war was a war which the communist north (Bac Cong San) tried to invade the democratic and free south vietnam (Viet Nam Cong Hoa). all vietnamese were not fighting against the americans like what the current communist government in ha noi says, rather it is communist vietnamese fighting against republican, democratic vietnamese. and to say that the u.s. killed 2.5 million civilians - let me tell you, that north vietnam started the war against the south first, THEY were the ones who tried to take over and attacked south vietnam, not south taking over the north or americans taking over VN, so THEY (the Viet Cong) were responsible for the war and the 4 million innocent people who died, north to south, the 300000 south vietnamese soldiers who died, the 60000 u.s. soldiers who died defending the south, and forcing 1000000 viet cong, many from the north, to their deaths. oh, don't forget that the viet cong government kill 500000 in labor camps in the south + 100000 in the north, and responsible for the 1.5 million people who died (out of 3000000) trying the flee the country after the war (boat people). why do you americans support the korean war, but not he vietnam war? it's the SAME KIND of war and same causes. ignorant, nieve hippie heads like you helped in making 3 million vietnamese, north to south, leave their homeland after 1975. you think that freedom is "free"?! sometimes you have to fight for freedom (tu do) to have freedom and democracy (dan chu). read your history before writing crap. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nguyen1310 (talk • contribs) 01:10, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Excuse me, are you Vietnamese? A Vietnamese can not talk like that... You should know that many people were killed by USA and the puppet government of South Vietnam. Many are infected with the deadly Orange Agent... How can you talk so insensitively? Democratic, free South Vietnam? Don't make me laugh, the Diem regime suppress Buddhism and this is very democratic??!!! Even the South government killed their own leader in a coup de tat... Wow that's very democratic too!???!! Trần Ái Quốc (talk) 09:08, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Yes i'm Vietnamese and proud of it. the north vietnamese government is also a puppet of the soviet union and china, which you should know by now. do you know how many Vietnamese died of landmines place by the Viet Cong in rural areas? many farmers and children died because of that. did you know that the viet cong killed up to 6000 people in Thảm sát Huế Tết Mậu Thân (link: []), plus thousands more in Bien Hoa when they stood up against the Viet Cong in 1975? north vietnam created the whole war, and are the reason why the u.s. wasted money on using agent orange, and many victims died because of the chemical, again because of the viet cong and "thang Ho", not "bac Ho". south vietnam was free and democratic, but is subjected to REASONABLE limitations on rights and freedoms, its own existance, democracy and freedom were in danger, so there can't be outrageous protests going on in the country. at least people can move around and travel without police permits like what the viet cong did after 1975, at least people can speak out against the government and protest in the south, not like the north where protesters were sent to labor camps when they joined the nhan van-giai pham democracy movement or when poor farmers revolted in Nghe An, at least people can do business and were not starving, at least there was no boat people when viet nam cong hoa was still there ,(why did 3000000 people leave soon after the communists took over the south, but not before that?), at least 500000 people were not murdered in the labor camps that the viet cong did after the war! President Diem quashed a protest spurred by monks whose ringleaders are undercover Viet Cong, pretending to be monks, who tried to destabilize south vietnam for the north to invade it easily, even south vietnam police and intelligence knew that! the number of people that were killed during the Diem presidency, cannot compare with the masses of people "bac Ho" killed in the North. do you know that buddhists, catholics and other religious groups were oppressed in north vietnam (and many joined the 1000000 people who fled down to the south in 1954?)? did you know that there's oppression of freedom of religion in cong san viet nam today, and many westerners know about this and created documentaries and news stories about that? cong san viet nam also arrested many buddhist and catholic priests, munks and nuns, like The Venerable Thich Quang Do and Father Nguyen Van Ly? President Diem did not revoke freedom of religion, my family was able to worship Buddha freely in their temple along with their neighbours for example and were never harassed by police. Diem only worked to crush the communists in viet nam cong hoa, and he is not stupid to attack the buddhist majority of his country! oh, not to mention how the viet cong government crushed the Hoang Sa-Truong Sa protests in Hanoi and Saigon last summer (my question is why did the government stop a bunch of protestors from fighting for their country, the country they loved?). don't forget how cong san viet nam gave away Ai Nam Quan to china as well, and becoming weak on defending hoang sa and truong sa (and didn't even bring this issue to the UN security council when they were part of it in 2008)! at least viet nam cong hoa stood up and fought the chinese when they invaded hoang sa in 1974, we knew we will lose because we're a smaller country, but will still fought to the death, trying to defend the land our ancestors died for, not like cong san viet nam who gave away land in mien Bac, like Ban Gioc or Ai Nam Quan to china, the land where thousands of our ancestors and heroes died trying to defend V-N. give these points i made some thought, and take a look at who you are and where you came from.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nguyen1310 (talk • contribs) 12:36, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Your talk is stupid, you should remember that Vietnam has fought against China in 1979, fought against Khmer Rouge in 1978, fought against China in 1988. So you can not say that Vietnam is a puppet of China. We do not depend on any country, we are an independent nation. If you want to know who is puppet, it's VNCH. They support Japan in 1945, support France from 1945-1954 and support USA from 1954 to 1975. Who created war? Accord to Geneva Conference in 1954, Vietnam will hold national election for the unification, however it is the puppet VNCH and USA that rejected the national election. If you say that USA is right in this war, how come thousands of Americans protest against war? You should know that anti-Vietnam War is one of the strongest and longest protest in USA history, even Martin Luther King protested against this war. By the way I want you to know that I am a South Vietnamese from HCM City and you have no right to insult my country. I also warn you last time, VN is one, we don't care where we are from, North, South or Central Vietnam. I have many friends from the South, some from Central and some from North Vietnam. I also have friends in USA and Australia. So do not try to separate my country again and my country does not need a person like you.Trần Ái Quốc (talk) 09:43, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I think your talk is delusional and ignorant, on top of unintelligent. you cannot have free and fair elections in a communist country, that's why they were cancelled, even when people were supposed to be allowed to leave if they wished in 1954 according to the Geneve Convention, the viet cong forcefully stopped many of them, especially if they lived inland. CSVN only fought china in 1979 & 1988 because they had the soviets to support them - why not engage them militarily now?! why give away Ai Nam Quan and other border areas to china for?! oh and who ran the ho chi minh trail? north vietnam was a puppet of the soviets and chinese and you're denying that, even american historians say that! i forgot to mention that thanks to the mass protests the americans had during the war, believing the propaganda the viet cong portrayed, and many don't even know that more people were murdered in Hue than My Lai, that's why they forced Nixon to withdraw troops and supplies, making VNCH fight a war lacking even bullets, making VNCH losing to the VC, and then 3000000 refugees left the country because the VC were killing, imprisoning, impoverishing and restraining people everywhere -that's why i'm overseas today along with millions of other vietnamese! and since when did i say that i want V-N divided? i strongly support that vietnam is one country, one people, and nothing can divide us, just like you and all other vietnamese, inside and outside the country. my wife is from Son Tay by the way. my friends from the north told me that they don't like the communist government either, my wife hated them as well (and she never been to VNCH), just like almost all Viet Kieu and most people in V-N (secretly), and one guy from Ha Noi told me that the government are a bunch of dogs and don't care about their people (and he's born and raised in the north)! V-N needs people like me, not people like you who are part of the government and only care for yourselves and keeping yourselves in power with good-paying jobs, as these people destroy their country and are traitors. i want V-N to be one, strong, democratic, free and happy V-N, not the authoritarian communist chinese-submissive V-N today! since i come from Hue, i would also like to ask where is the monument for the VC massacre (mass murder) of people in Hue in 1968, where up to 6000 people were murdered, while they already made a memorial for My Lai where only 300 people maximum died?

p.s. VNCH only existed in 1954, not 1945...
 * I have been living in Australia for 3 years and I never saw any articles or documents that said that North Vietnam was a puppet of China. You should know that nowadays, engaging military action is extremely hard. Look at Argentina who lost Falklands to UK, look at Japan who lost Kuril islands to Russia. Could we say they are puppets too? Of course there are negative sides in every country. Our current system is not the best and we are still improving it. You mentioned some guys from the North criticized Vietnam government, it is a normal thing in every country. Look at USA, how many people are protesting the capitalist system? You said that 6 000 people are murdered!!! It is hard to find were these people truly killed by North VN or by cross fires or by USA bombing. Besides the 6 000 figure is totally unrealistic. VN is now a friendly country. Even Nguyen Cao Ky, Pham Duy who used to hate communist a lot have returned to VN. Many Viet Kieu have comed back and open business there. What the hell is wrong with you? Why do you keep the hatred in your heart while others are willing to forgive and forget? You said that communist government forced people to leave their country in 1975. Well then if I have sons and daughter killed by USA bombing or have a father who is infected by Orange Agent, I swear I will not forgive USA and VNCH that easy. You emtioned people killed by Vietnam government but forgot to mention deaths caused by USA bombing and chemical spraying. Last sentence, I want you to know that only old people overseas still try to memorize the past. We, the young generation, never care what happened 35 years ago. Look at the photoes of protests against China in France, Japan, Netherlands... You will realise that they all use current Vietnam's flag. Ok hope you have a good day Trần Ái Quốc (talk) 11:58, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Now I don't harbor hatred against you or anything like that, but i have very strong emotions and viewpoints on V-N. I just want to clarify some things you mentioned above. Even though some Westerners support the Occupy movement and are against capitalism, and i also saw local communist parties in Canada joining in, the majority of people don't support the movement and aren't against capitalism. ABC News (American Broadcasting Corporation) and CBC News (Canadian Broadcasting Corporation) both report this, that only about 25 - 33% of people in U.S. and Canada each support Occupy, and most people don't - in fact when people in my city were protesting, city residents complained it was a nuisance and don't support their cause. You know that some of these anti-capitalist protesters are anarchists (wanting no gov't in the country so they can do what criminal activities they want), people on welfare payments who don't want to go to work and want more money from government, and communists who have less than 3% support in Canada. in other words, they have some kind of problem. Yes, all countries have problems, but some have more than others, and democracy satisfies people more than communist dictatorships, as people can speak out against government policies and the gov't can change such things (since they know they can be voted out of gov't), and, everyone is under the law and people's rights and freedoms are protected. the Dalai Lama once said that "Chinese law is communist law" and that "no one recognizes or supports communist law" to news reporters in India. About the Hue massacre: a few of my neighbors told me that they saw the VC came into Hue and rounded up many people when they controlled the city, and heard they were being tied up and shot in the mountains near by, and even shot people who tried to escape. when me and my family tried fleeing Hue just before VC were coming in (when they were in Quang Tri already), when on the Hai Van pass, VC in the mountains near by were shooting at all the people running away from Hue on the bridge, trying to stop them from leaving so they can hold them hostage and coerce VNCH government to do what the VC wanted. My mother was shot in the leg and struggled to move and had to go to hospital in Da Nang. i saw dead bodies and screaming people everywhere. this is enough to believe that the VC did this (many, if not most, people in Hue already left when VNCH and US came to bomb). i also saw mass graveyards that were never there before the VC came. Now, Viet Kieu don't "forgive and forget" as you said, only put their horrors behind them, and only come to V-N to travel and see the homeland this missed and meet family, and do business since they see a profitable opportunity to do business in a fast-growing economy, but they didn't "forgive and forget" (there's anti-Hanoi protests in US & Canada still). You can see that the Hoang Sa protests in Canada, US, Australia, (western) Germany, and even some in France, the biggest ones overseas, all have the co vang only, not co do. No one likes Nguyen Cao Ky, and there was anger in Little Saigon in mien nam Cali in US when he came to V-N to meet the Hanoi government officals there, to the point that many pressured Trung Tam Thuy Nga to fire their MC Nguyen Cao Ky Duyen. Pham Duy only came back to retire so no one cared, even me and my wife plan to retire in V-N soon. No a final word for you: the past is an example that younger generations like you should learn from, so the appropriate actions can be done for the future, to improve the future, so the mistakes of the past don't happen again. Have a great day to you to. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nguyen1310 (talk • contribs) 01:44, 16 March 2012 (UTC)

Vua VN
Chào bạn, nếu không phiền nhờ bạn dịch nốt các bài về một số vị vua Việt Nam còn thiếu sang tiếng Anh. List of Vietnamese monarchs. Hiện các vua Triều/Hàn có bài tiếng Anh hết, không lẽ vua Việt Nam không bằng.? Bạn đặt nick là "Ái Quốc" thiết nghĩ cũng nên giúp một tay, nếu bạn ngại thì tạo bài ngắn thôi cũng được, không nhất thiết phải dài quá. (không kể vua Hùng, Cham Pa nhé) 123.17.234.65 (talk) 08:50, 27 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Mình sẽ cố gắng ^^ Trần Ái Quốc (talk) 11:22, 27 May 2012 (UTC)

Cảm ơn bạn, tiếng Anh mình không tốt lắm, chỉ có thể dịch xuôi được thôi, dịch ngược thì kém ^.^. Có gì mình sẽ chỉnh giúp. 123.17.234.53 (talk) 06:32, 28 May 2012 (UTC)

First Indochina War
Hello, please provide some sources supporting your position on the result of the First Indochina War. Per WP:PROVEIT, the "burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material". In this case, that is you as you are wanting to reinsert "Democratic Republic of Vietnam victory" into the result field. If you can provide reliable sources that state this, editors will be more likely to accept your view and the dispute can be resolved. However, if you continue to simply restore the information, other editors may decide to revert you as the assertion seems controversial. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 11:45, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for replying me. Here are some sources I have found:

History is a weapon by Howard Zinn, "In 1954, the French, having been unable to win Vietnamese popular support, which was overwhelmingly behind Ho Chi Minh and the revolutionary movement, had to withdraw" http://www.historyisaweapon.com/defcon1/zinnimvivi18.html Vietnam and the Indochina Conflict by John Wood, page 64 http://books.google.com.au/books?id=hdZLAcJjbx8C&pg=PA20&lpg=PA20&dq=First+Indochina+War&source=bl&ots=TNkTbnbNyG&sig=QbwRCAgu3S-Dl-7l2DDtK0AaLXk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wPh7UP-dNoy0iQe2xICQCQ&ved=0CEwQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=V Vietnam 1946: How the War Began by Stein Tønnesson "In the end, however, it was the communists who triumphed" page 228, http://books.google.com.au/books?id=1I4HOcmE4XQC&pg=PP7&lpg=PP1&ots=YRswylAfhK&dq=First+Indochina+War#v=onepage&q&f=false Victory in Vietnam: The Official History of the People's Army of Vietnam by William Duiker http://www.amazon.com/Victory-Vietnam-Official-History-Peoples/dp/0700611754

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