User talk:Tr0n20

Speedy deletion nomination of Kayla E.


Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice to inform you that a tag has been placed on Kayla E. requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A3 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because it is an article with no content whatsoever, or whose contents consist only of external links, a "See also" section, book references, category tags, template tags, interwiki links, images, a rephrasing of the title, a question that should have been asked at the help or reference desks, or an attempt to contact the subject of the article. Please see Wikipedia:Stub for our minimum information standards for short articles. Also please note that articles must be on notable subjects and should provide references to reliable sources that verify their content.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 21:02, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

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Hello, Tr0n20, and welcome to Wikipedia! My name is Shalor and I work with the Wiki Education Foundation; I help support students who are editing as part of a class assignment.

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Kayla E.
Hi! I received a notification about the page's deletion. I would like to caution you about creating content live - I would actually recommend against creating a page live, as this puts you under a huge time crunch to not only complete the page in a very short amount of time but to also provide independent, reliable sources that would show notability, like reviews of the artist's work that specifically talk about them in-depth or articles that discuss them. It's typically better to work on article drafts in your sandbox, as this will give you more time to complete the work without the immediate fear of deletion. I do want to caution you that it can be extremely difficult to find coverage for artists, especially artists that work in a fairly niche part of the art work. It happens all too often that when they do receive coverage, it's in places that Wikipedia doesn't consider to be reliable, typically because the outlet is self-published - meaning that they don't undergo the editorial process that Wikipedia requires and/or they are not routinely cited as a reliable source by other reliable sources. Unfortunately feminist artists tend to be seen as niche and as such, do not always have the type of coverage needed to show notability.

Offhand it looks like Kayla E. is predominantly known for her work with Nat. Brut, which has an article on Wikipedia. It's actually fairly common on Wikipedia for there to be an article on someone's work and have the artist's (or other creative professional) page redirect there, as the artist doesn't have a lot (or sadly sometimes any) reliable sources that discuss them independently of the work itself. For example, this article from Feministing does talk to Kayla E, however it heavily focuses on her work with Nat.Brut to the point where the article is actually more about the publication. My recommendation here would be to focus on improving the article for Nat.Brut as I'm not really seeing anything that would show where she's independently notable of Nat.Brut. Their article could also really use some TLC as well. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 11:58, 17 November 2017 (UTC)

Nat.Brut
Hi! I notice that you've started editing - I wanted to give you a quick note. You may want to work on your changes in your sandbox first, since that will give you more time to work on polishing your text and also work with the page's formatting. Also, be extremely careful with sourcing - I noticed that you used a WordPress blog as a source, however this would not be seen as a reliable source on Wikipedia since it's a self-published blog that doesn't have the type of editorial oversight and fact-checking that Wikipedia wants from a source. This source will need to be substituted with another source even though it's backing up some pretty basic information. I would recommend avoiding blogs in general unless they come from a very good source. For example, the blog for The Harvard Advocate would be considered usable since the literary magazine itself has a good history. Shalor (Wiki Ed) (talk) 18:16, 29 November 2017 (UTC)