User talk:Tra/Archive/2

Please view my comments
Hello! I hope you are feeling fine. If you have the time or know the cause of a technical problem which I am facing, please view and comment on this page. Your help would be greatly appreciated! -- S iva1979 Talk to me  06:49, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you
Thanks for reverting the vandalism (by yet another sockpuppet of AshyLarryMarcySon on my userpage! --The Gr e at Llama talk 14:24, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks!
Thanks for answering my question at the pump! Herostratus 22:45, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Bad Jokes
Hi my name is gogoboi662 and it is nice to meet you. The bad jokes page you were talking about seems to be there. I went to the link and it showed up. Well the reason it did not show up for you might have been that it was under construction or something like that. Well i will hope you will reply soon. got to go to school. Later. Gogoboi662 12:39, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
 * No, it's OK. I wasn't having any problems with WP:BJAODN. I was just replying to another user who didn't know where the page was. I've added an unsigned tag to the discussion to make this clearer. Tra (Talk) 16:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you!
Dear Toby:

Thanks so much for reducing the images to thumbnails. Would you be willing to give us a little more help with the page? For one thing, when I do a simple search for "Graycliff" it is not listed.

THank you in advance for any help you can give. Reine at Graycliff —Preceding unsigned comment added by Graycliff (talk • contribs)


 * I've made Greycliff estate, Frank Lloyd Wright's Greycliff, Greycliff, Graycliff estate and Graycliff redirect to the article, so the article will show up if anyone enters any of these titles into the search box. Tra (Talk) 16:12, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Thank you again! I'll be making some more edits this week...if you check back in a week or so, perhaps you could "clean up" whatever doesn't seem to be working very well? BTW, you are now offically a "Graycliff volunteer" (since Graycliff is a grass-roots, volunteer organization not unlike Wikipedia itself) and you are certainly the volunteer who lives the farthest from the actual site. Thank you again...24.55.187.166 21:14, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Gerald Mohr page - non appearance of uploaded photo
Toby, thanks for your speedy comment re links to other language pages - I hadn't realised it! Anyway, maybe you may have an idea re a problem I have posted onto Wiki but so far haven't had a satisfactory answer. A Wiki operator kindly uploaded the photo on Gerald's Wiki site, including the infobox but, for some reason, I can't see the photo on my home computer, although I can on my office computer. I've tried refreshing, purging, cache cleaning and cache bypassing, as recommended on the Wiki help pages, but to no avail. I've also tried reducing the level of my firewall to medium to accommodate trusted sites, which Wiki is. Nothing works. Any ideas, please? Wood200 23:08, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm guessing there's something in the photo that causes your computer to not display it correctly. I've downloaded and re-uploaded the photo to maybe remove that. Please clear your cache again and have another look at the article. Tra (Talk) 23:40, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

Toby, hi! I tried cache cleaning again tonight but to no avail. Maybe I should upload the photo myself? Wood200 23:31, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * You could try uploading it again, to see if that works. Use this link to upload it so that your copy is given the same name and automatically appears in the article. Tra (Talk) 23:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Toby, hi again! I re-uploaded my Gerald Mohr autographed photo to his website but it still isn't showing on my home computer. Can you see it on yours? It must be something simple that's blocking it from my view! Getting frustrated about it now! :-) Wood200 21:55, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I can see it. I'm sure it's a problem with your computer. Are there any other images on Wikipedia that don't display correctly? Tra (Talk) 22:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Toby, none that I have yet come across. I'm certain the problem lies within my computer, too, but I really have exhausted all the alternatives my limited knowledge of computers has thought of. Can you think of anything else? Wood200 22:26, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I've uploaded a copy of the image to another server here. Can you see it there? Tra (Talk) 22:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

No, the page is blank. Wood200 22:40, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * What browser are you using? If you're using Internet Explorer on Windows XP, try right clicking the file you have saved on your hard drive, go to Open With &gt; Choose program &gt; Internet Explorer &gt; OK. Does the file come up? Tra (Talk) 22:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Ye,s Toby, the photo comes up. I am on IE XP. Wood200 22:57, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * What about this link? Does the image come up? Tra (Talk) 23:03, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

No, page is blank, Toby. Wood200 23:10, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * This is really baffling me... it seems the image will appear when accessed through IE on your computer, but not over the Internet. As a last resort, you might want to try going to the Gerald Mohr article again and pressing Ctrl+F5 again but that's all I can really think of. Tra (Talk) 23:16, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, it's baffled me, too. Control+F5 does nothing still. Thanks for trying, Toby. By the way, was it you who put all the links into the article? If so, thanks very much! I've slightly updated the narrative again this evening, too. These amendments come up immediately, so I really don't know why the photo doesn't. If you know of anyone else who might be able to help, please point me in the right direction! Wood200 23:20, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, I did add some links earlier. I also removed a few words such as 'prestigious' since they are a bit subjective and Wikipedia articles should be written to a neutral point of view. The reason why your changes came up immediately and not the images is because images are handled slightly differently to the rest of the article. As for finding additional help, I'd suggest seeing if there's anyone you know who is experienced in computers who can help you, since the problem seems localised to your computer. Tra (Talk) 23:34, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, Toby. Reason 'prestigious' is used is that was the company's description in books written about the subject and Welles only chose 'la creme de la creme' for his formative company, so it's objective, not subjective, comment. Similarly the newly added comment, which I think you changed, too, about Mohr playing the handsome, charming bad guy. From the photo you can see that he was handsome, and his particular style of acting, if you have ever seen him on screen, certainly embodied the charmer, so again objective comment, I think! Once more, thanks for your help. Wonder if I should delete the infobox and reload it in its entirety? I've just added his height to it and that came up right away, too. Wood200 23:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I'd disagree with you, there. The problem is that one person might look at the photo and think he is 'charming' whilst someone else may say he played the role terribly. You mentioned how some books you have use the word 'prestigious'. What is acceptable is to say 'book x described the theatre company as prestigious', which shows that you are not expressing an opinion, merely describing someone else's opinion. This section of WP:NPOV describes what I'm trying to say, in a nutshell.
 * As for the infobox, it's displaying correctly to me. You could try removing and re-adding it but I doubt that would make much diference. Tra (Talk) 00:05, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Toby, thanks again for your comments, which I have taken on board. I will temporarily delete "prestigious" till I get the quote from the relevant book. However, my definition of Mohr playing the "handsome, charming villain" is a description of the type of roles he frequently played and excelled in, not whether or not he played the characters well, or a personal opinion of his portrayals. The two examples I gave are only the tip of the iceberg!

I've admitted defeat on getting the photo to show on my home computer! Wood200 21:07, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the sound advice!
...on my Village Pump query regarding the weird substitution of a foreign interface language I was getting when viewing and trying to work in the Dutch Wikipedia. Page vandalism aside, I'm particularly paranoiac because my workplace (a Holocaust and WWII Jewish resistance heritage center) has had its website hacked with screens hijacked by extremist organizations. On top of that I live in Israel, so any language originating in a Muslim country trips my alarm and possibly provokes an excessively anxious reaction. So your sensible suggestion was highly appropriate and got me back on track. Good going! Your intervention rescued me from considerable agitation and wasted time, which I much appreciate. -- Deborahjay 00:05, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

watching special pages
Hey, just thought I'd drop a note to say thanks for the ability to watch 'what links here' pages. I just saw your note on the archive of WP:technical (mirrored here) - thanks! :-) --User24 14:23, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Gerald Mohr infobox
Toby, that's weird! I've added his wives' names (and his son's) and it's not showing (at least on my computer) at all, though his height is. What can you see from your end, please? OK, I'm gonna stop tinkering with it - promise! Wood200 21:32, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I've fixed it. Basically, the infobox parameters have to be entered in exactly the right way, so the parameter 'spouse' had to be used instead of 'spouse(s)'. Template:Infobox actor tells you how they can be entered correctly. I also removed the information about his son, since that's not supposed to be in the 'spouse' section of the infobox. If that information is important to his role as an actor, it might be able to be put into the body of the article somewhere. Tra (Talk) 22:15, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Toby, again many thanks! Still odd that the photo doesn't show, though. Ah, well, che sera, sera! Wood200 22:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

Talkheader
Yes, I know it is not to be placed on every page. However, I can't find anything that says they should only be placed on active talk pages. Quite to the contrary, I find that the largest amount of unsigned comments are left on those talk pages with the fewest or no other messages. On the more active pages, I notice that users often use the unsigned template to give them a push in the right direction. Besides, if you were a new user and searching for an airport article, which you would search for first? The one you know the most about, most likely your small hometown airport with a rather small or even non-existent talk page. thadius856talk 02:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

Image:Bb7 eye.png
Has been restored. Please annotate as appropriate, that it might not be swiftly re-deleted. — freak([ talk]) 22:57, Nov. 24, 2006 (UTC)
 * Thanks, I've added in the rationale and put the image back in the article Tra (Talk) 23:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Virus Unimportant?
Is this a joke? There's a virus in the Christina Aguilera Wikipedia sites! My virus checker said it was in those sites. As for the virus not being a problem, what about people who don't have virus checkers? At least I have a virus checker! This is urgent; not something to be taken lightly! Acalamari 19:33, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


 * No, I mean what I say. A webpage cannot harm you. The only possibility I can think of where they might be a problem is if there are any links to harmful file downloads elsewhere on the Internet, but they are not part of the page itself, and there is no way you can get infected just by visiting the page. Tra (Talk) 19:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I happened to point out that the PICTURES might contain the virus, which is highly likely. My virus checker said that it was from a picture. If no one acts on this urgency, somebody with a computer less protected than mine could pick up the virus! Imagine if they then found out it was from Wikipedia! That would be diastrous!


 * I still don't think there should be a problem, but as a precaution, I've uploaded new copies of both of the images you mentioned over the top of the existing images. If you clear your cache, the possibly-infected images should go away. Tra (Talk) 20:06, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for uploading Image:Dirrty.jpg. The image has been identified as not specifying the source and creator of the image, which is required by Wikipedia's policy on images. If you don't indicate the source and creator of the image on the image's description page, it may be deleted some time in the next seven days. If you have uploaded other images, please verify that you have provided source information for them as well.

For more information on using images, see the following pages:
 * Image use policy
 * Image copyright tags

This is an automated notice by OrphanBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Media copyright questions. 20:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Responded on original uploader's talk page. Tra (Talk) 20:13, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

I don't need to clear the cache; one: my virus checker destroyed the virus. Two: I have a program that cleans the cache. Anyway, it's not just the "Dirrty" image that I was worried about: it was also the "Stripped" picture, and maybe other album or single covers. Also, how can you guarantee that refreshing the picture will eradicate the virus?

Sorry if I'm getting on your nerves, but a virus on Wikipedia is no small concern! Acalamari 20:09, 26 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I did both "Dirrty" and "Stripped". Not everyone has the same program as you, so anyone who has looked at that page recently will need to manually refresh their cache. I made a new copy of the image by viewing the image page, pressing print screen and saving the new image. This means that only the bitmap data is kept, and the rest of the image is lost. Tra (Talk) 20:18, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I'm sorry I treated you like a fool. I might have been overreacting, but when a virus makes it Wikipedia, then I'm very concerned. Since you did the "printscreen" (or alt-printscreen) trick, the virus should be gone.

The only thing I'm worried about now is how the virus even made it to Wikipedia. I suggest we keep an eye on the Christina Aguilera pages for a little bit, just in case.

Oh, and don't forget to clear your cache/do cleanup. Acalamari 20:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

ArbCom Candidate Summary
Thank you for your fine work. I was glad to be involved working with you and the others, even if only peripherally. Jd2718 22:43, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Ditto. Thanks for taking the time and effort to create that :) Cheers, Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 02:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

IP vandalism
moved from sandbox is there any way that youcould contact wikipedia to tell them that i apoligize for the recent edits on this pc, its a school computer, and someone thought it would be funny to edit it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.76.20.105 (talk • contribs)
 * Hi, thanks for the apology you posted earlier. If you do not wish to be confused with vandals from this IP address, you may wish to consider getting an account. Also, it is the standard practise to put comments addressed at users on their talk pages which, in this case would be User talk:Tra. I have moved your comment there. Tra (Talk) 21:55, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

Re: Village pump revert
Sorry, I was reverting my own edit and tought that a revert on my edit would just remove it, and not all the change in the page for the past 24 hours. Samuel 23:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
 * It's OK, don't worry about it. Normally, what happens is you leave it on the page and as long as no-one else responds to the thread, it will be archived after a week, then after two weeks it will be removed completely and only accessible through the page history. Tra (Talk) 23:49, 29 November 2006 (UTC)