User talk:Tractor96

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Speedy deletion nomination of Cliff Hammond


A tag has been placed on Cliff Hammond requesting that it be speedily deleted from Wikipedia. This has been done under section A7 of the criteria for speedy deletion, because the article appears to be about a person or group of people, but it does not indicate how or why the subject is important or significant: that is, why an article about that subject should be included in an encyclopedia. Under the criteria for speedy deletion, such articles may be deleted at any time. Please see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as notable.

If you think that this notice was placed here in error, contest the deletion by clicking on the button labelled "Click here to contest this speedy deletion". Doing so will take you to the talk page where you will find a pre-formatted place for you to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. You can also visit the page's talk page directly to give your reasons, but be aware that once tagged for speedy deletion, if the page meets the criterion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the page that would render it more in conformance with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, you can contact one of these administrators to request that the administrator userfy the page or email a copy to you. Cocoaguy ここがいいcontribstalk 21:01, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Status and Advice
As reviewing administrator, I decided not to delete the article.

On the now deleted talk p., you said "This article should not be speedily deleted for lack of asserted importance because there are very few notable Kitchen Industry people. The UK Kitchen, Bedroom & Bathroom Industry represents 3 billion pounds worth of turnover and employs thousands. It should be represented on Wikipedia and this page featuring one of its best known personalities is a good and just beginning. All the information supplied is bona fide and verifiable. There should be no descrimination against manufacturing industry.Not glamourous but worthwhile nonetheless. "

I am extremely sympathetic to the need for articles on such topics, but there are nonetheless the Wikipedia standards of being an encyclopedia, not a directory. I do not think that being a sale manager of a successful line of kitchen furniture is an indication of encyclopedic notability, but having won a prize for such is enough of an indication of importance to avoid speedy deletion. The overall importance of the industry is irrelevant: this is a biographical article.

In order to remain in Wikipedia the article needs to show notability with references providing substantial coverage from 3rd party independent published reliable sources, print or online, but not blogs or press releases, or material derived from press releases. The single reference given is not sufficient for this, especially because it is not clear whether the award is for being the best sales manager in the uK, or just the best sales manager in the UK for kitchen products -- from the name of the publication in which the award was announced, I rather think it was the latter. It also needs to be written like an encyclopedia article, not a press release--don't praise the organization or person, say what they do. Don't talk about the overall importance of the subject--talk about what they have accomplished. Remember not to copy from a web site, even your own -- first it's a copyright violation, but, even if you own the copyright and are willing to give us permission according to WP:DCM, the tone will not be encyclopedic and the material will not be suitable.

the article needed some editing to remove the somewhat promotional tone, and I did what I think needed. Remember to include only material that would be of interest to a general reader coming across the mention of the subject and wanting the sort of information that would be found in an encyclopedia. Do not include material that would be of interest only to those associated with the subject, or to prospective clients--that sort of content is considered promotional. Keep in mind that the goal of an encyclopedia is to say things in a concise manner, which is not the style of  press releases or  web sites, which are usually more expansive.

As a general rule, a suitable page will be best written by someone without Conflict of Interest; it's not impossible to do it properly with a conflict of interest or as a paid press agent, but it's relatively more difficult: you are automatically thinking in terms of what the subject wishes to communicate to the public, but an uninvolved person will think in terms of what the public might wish to know. If you think you can do it right according to our guidelines, it is permitted, but expect the article to be carefully checked for objectivity. See what additional references you can find. I advise you to do this quickly,  before the article gets nominated for deletion by a regular deletion process. A decision to keep the article will require such references.  DGG ( talk ) 23:48, 24 December 2011 (UTC)

Nomination of Cliff Hammond for deletion
A discussion is taking place as to whether the article Cliff Hammond is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.

The article will be discussed at Articles for deletion/Cliff Hammond until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.

Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion template from the top of the article.  DGG ( talk ) 23:24, 10 May 2012 (UTC)