User talk:Tractorkingsfan/Archive/Archive 01

Archive, for goodness sake.

Excuse me?
So far as I know the LSD page still exists.

Yeah, I apologized to you on your talk page, but I just rechecked and you did delete the article once. Tractorkingsfan 12:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

Revert of vandalism
You're welcome. Tonywalton | Talk 23:24, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

Apanupaq
You're welcome. It's amazing what one stumbles over while randomly mousing around. The exact birth & death dates are what caught my eye -- how could they know with such exactitude? -- and the utter lack of sources. --Calton | Talk 01:15, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

Power to the people!
You can, and should, use speedy deletion templates when appropriate. In this case, putting at the top of the page does the trick. Have fun! yandman 15:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

AfD: Tanenbaum-Torvalds debate
Not sure what you meant by "Cool", but please reconsider your vote on Articles for deletion/Tanenbaum-Torvalds debate. Memmke 09:28, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Well, my original vote was "keep" with the rationale explained on the page. At which point you responded that it should be merged, which is fine, or cool, with me. Tractorkingsfan 10:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

Trying to add speedy delete tag to article on Jim Mansfield, user TotalCarb (original author) keeps erasing it without explanation. What should I do? Tractorkingsfan 04:47, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * If he keeps removing it, just add at the bottom too. It'll keep it in the category. -Royalguard11 (Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 04:51, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

Heavy Trash
You might like to use the Template:Infobox Band instead. I've had a fiddle with the format. You might just want to get some more third party coverage links (especially for the tour info) for verifiability. Band seems notable enough. I do a lot of band and album articles, so if you need any help just ask! Bubba hotep 10:00, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Cool thanks I like what you've done.  Tractorkingsfan 10:09, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

How it does work
I suppose the easiest I could do is point you to some reading material... voting is evil, WP:DDV, WP:CCC, WP:PPP. The gist of it is that Wikipedia strives for consensus, and this is better reached by discussion than by voting. Voting tends to represent issues as binary "yes - no" "us versus them", and can preclude a compromise from being reached (e.g. everyone votes for red or yellow, with no supermajority either way, but we could have discussed and reached an acceptable compromise on orange).

With respect to process (e.g. deletion), it is true that in most cases the debate is closed in favor of the majority, but it doesn't have to be. First, we look dimly upon "vote stacking", canvassing or making alternate accounts to sway the vote, and tend to discount that. Second, good arguments are important, and votes based on "I like this" or "I haven't heard of that" may be ignored; in the extreme, "copyright violation" is an argument for deletion that trumps any amount of "votes" to keep. And third, it's always good if people are debating on possible alternatives (e.g. merging, rewording, renaming, removing most but not all of the text, whatever). HTH! ( Radiant ) 12:17, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Just a note - voting issues are not limited to AFD and RFA, although those are the most obvious examples people tend to cite. Rather, people are sometimes tempted to call a vote on article content, editor behavior, or guideline proposals. These are generally discouraged for the reasons above (representing as binary, precluding compromise). People have even been known to call a vote on whether or not a sourced fact is true. ( Radiant ) 09:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Matt Stone
Just so you know Matt Stone is a libertian wich means his not a republican or a democrat his a middle grounded. Trey is also a libertian.

Just so you know, a libertarian is not middle grounded, since they tend to be more liberal than Democrats on social issues and more right wing than Republicans on things like Welfare. What I'm actually talking about is why people insist on saying "though he previously claimed to be a Republican" when that was probably just a joke. Please sign your posts and refrain from trying to educate me on things which have little to do with the intent of the original comment. Also, "libertian"? "his a middle grounded"? These are meaningless words. Thanks, Tractorkingsfan 12:26, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Re:Christianity
Firstly, I was not trying to make User:LonelyBoy (or anyone, for that matter) look stupid. Secondly, I was merely correcting him. But you don't believe it either. So, I'll show you how I "prove divinity" by proving that the Bible really was writen by God: "All sripture is given by insperation of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instuction in righteousness." 2 Tim. 3:16
 * There are many powerful statements of insperation in the Scriptures.

"For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost." 2 Pet. 1:21

"The Spirit of the Lord spake by me, and His word was in my tongue." 2 Sam. 23:2

"the word of the Lord by the mouth of Jeremiah" Ezra 1:1

"this scripture...which the Holy Ghost by the mouth of David spake" Acts 1:16 "And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying..." Exod. 25:1
 * The phrase "Thus saith the Lord" and similar phrases are found over 3,800 times in the Old Testament.
 * The human writers realized that God was giving them the words.

"Hear, O heavens, and give ear, O earth: for the Lord hath spoken." Isa. 1:2

"The words of Jeremiah... To whom the word of the Lord came in the days of Josiah." Jer. 1:1-2 "For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?" John 5:46-47
 * The words of Moses are connected with the words of Christ.

"If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead." Luke 16:31 "But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God." Matt. 4:4 "What thing soever I command you, observe to do it: thou shalt not add thereto, nor diminish from it." Deut. 12:32
 * Christ placed His stamp of approval on the Scriptures.
 * The judgemant attached to adding to or takning away from the words of Scripture shows God's attitude toward the importance of His Word. In three different passages God warns about adding to His Word.

"Every word of God is pure... Add thou not unto his words." Prov. 30:5-6

"If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book." Rev. 20:18

It is interesting to note that these warnings occur at the beginning, in the middle, and at the end of God's Word. We assume every book in the library or bookstore bo the one whose name appears on the cover. We would never question that unless we knew someone was writing under a pseudonym or we had other good evidence to the contrary. Should we not also accept the Bible's claims of being written by the one it claims to be written by until there is evidence of deceit? --Christknight 21:30, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
 * Very few other books claim to be the Word of God. Those that do (the Koran and the Book of Mormon) are filled with anachronisms and historical inaccuracies.
 * We accept the authorship of realiable literature until proven otherwise.

Forgive me for condecsending you, but it doesn't seem like you belive the Bible the way you argue against it. And you missed the idea on a few of my points: 1) I never said that the Bible was writen by God "directly". I said in my first point that God gave the words to the men writing. 2) About "circular reasoning", what other book claims to be written by God Himself? Those which have claimed such either did not stand the test of time or are of obviously inferior quality. And 3) I was not comparing the Bible to the other books in a library in terms of context, all I said was "Should we not also accept the Bible's claims of being written by the one it claims to be written by untill there is evidence of deceit?". And you ask how old the Bible has the world being - according to the Bible, the earth is about 6,000 years old. Why are there fossils that have been around sinse "billions oof years" before that? There aren't. Some scientists say that fossils are that old, but they never stop to think, "What if things decay faster as time passes?" They think they can measure how long something takes to decay to a certain point, but what if things decay faster the longer they decay for? It's like a snowball effect. Anyway, it does take faith to believe in God - you are right about that - but I never said it didn't take faith, did I? Just because it takes faith to believe in something doesn't mean that what you are believing in isn't the truth. --Christknight 23:01, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

I agree that we should end it. I'm extremely evangelistic, and that explains why I care so much. I can't change your mind, though, so I'll leave you with this, as with the others involved: It is better to live your life believing and find out in the end that you were wrong, than to live your life not believing and find out that you were wrong. --Christknight 00:21, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Lonelyboy
You wrote: Hey man, let's leave User:Christknight alone. He's obiously got a lot of strongheaded ideas, but I've been trying to argue with him and we're not getting anywhere, so let's drop it because it really has nothing to do with the encyclopedia. There are three of us on him now (you, me, and User:The Hybrid) and he's never going to back down. Just a suggestion, I have no authority on the matter, I just think we should all respect each other and move the hell on for the good of the project.

LoL! I didn't know we were all trying to knock realistic sense into the guy. I read over all your arguments and as great a points you made, they were to no avail. I think he is hopeless. But I will listen to you and just give up, seeing as how he wasn't persuaded by any of your strong points. Thank you! Lonelyboy 00:37, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

It has been established by confession that Lonelyboy is an abusive sockpuppet of a previously banned user, specifically User:Twentyboy. As such, his IP address has been banned for six months. Cheers, --  T H  L  R CCD 23:09, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, I have the flu. Luckily I got a flu shot so I should be feeling better in a couple of days. I just thought that I would let you know about Lonelyboy, seeing as you had contact with him recently. He confessed to being Twentyboy, so there really was no question about him being a sockpuppet. Yandman, who was feuding with his Twentyboy persona at the same time I was, and I decided to give him a second chance. I decided to take a hands on approach to watching him, which is why I got involved with your Christianity discussion at first. Immediately after that debate ended, Lonelyboy lashed out at me, and Yandman was forced to have his IP blocked. Lonelyboy has a tendency to get very emotional about some things, and rather than taking a Wikibreak he decides to troll. That is what got him blocked as Twentyboy and Hungrygirl, and that is what got him blocked this time. It is kind of sad, seeing as he is a good editor when he stays away from things like Christianity. Oh well, Wikipedia was a good place before him, and it is still a good place after him. Cheers, --  T H  L  R CCD 23:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

No kidding. I can't believe that I have to defend my self to an anon now. That person doesn't even know part of what has happened with that user. I wish that people could just stay out of things that they don't understand. Cheers, --  T H  L  R  22:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

Looking for some help from an admin
Trying to edit Stephon Marbury. I recently made an edit with no problem, but now when I attempt to edit the page a blank page shows up with no content at all in the edit box. Not a problem I know how to fix. Thanks, --Tractorkingsfan 00:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * There must have been an error or something, as the software is reading that you blanked the page. Must have been an error, that's all. But, you'll have to redo the edit, as it doens't seem to have saved. -Royalguard11 (Talk·Desk·Review Me!) 00:15, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Cool, thanks --Tractorkingsfan 00:16, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Laguna Beach: The Real Orange County
Well, this was the edit I reverted which was pretty clearly vandalism. As for the other edits, I find them all quite confusing, I don't watch the show, so really, I'm not a good judge of who's important on it. However, all the pages I revert end up on my watchlist, so I will keep an eye on it. Have you approached this editor about what s/he is trying to do? Dina 19:13, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Open Air Stereo
Your edits to the article have definitely been an improvement. I added an unreferenced template though, because the article doesn't cite its sources. Khatru2 20:53, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Awesome, I was thinking of doing that myself. Cheers, --Tractorkingsfan 20:57, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

Re: Final Statement
Hey man, no hard feelings, it's cool. I also have a slight habbit of getting into arguments - especially when it comes to my beliefes. Please don't think that I have any disrespect for other beliefes; I know I made it sound that way. I always take care to respect others and their beliefes. So, though I don't really know you or your beliefes, you can be assured that you have my utmost respect. --Christknight 19:48, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

My editor review
Thanks, that really meant a lot. BTW, this is a little off the subject of the subsection title, but User:Yamla decided to block the Lonelyboy account. I don't know if it really matters; I just thought that I would keep you up to date. Thanks again, cheers. --  T H  L  R  04:40, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

That is very true. I get annoyed at the vandalism more than anything else. Trolls get blocked quickly, and with the exception of one I haven't run into them again. Vandals stick around for a little while, and are harder to get blocked. Anyway, I plan on being here for a while, and I'm glad to hear that someone thinks I'm doing a good job. Wikipedia is my hobby, and I don't want to screw it up. Cheers, --  T H  L  R  04:54, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

I agree that it's notable
The points he brought up are correct. It needs to be cleaned up, a lot. The article in it's current state is a poor reflection on Wikipedia. If no one can improve the article, it should be deleted. The question whether all Frats should have a section on Wikipedia is another debate.. if this one is chosen to be deleted, I think precedent should follow with the other articles. Skrewler 11:07, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

All frats, no. This frat, with chapters at so many major universities, yes. I don't think precedent is really the issue, so much as notability, which can be decided on a frat by frat basis. I just fail to see why it can't be improved. I guess I should just work on it myself (but I'm tired as hell right now). Cheers, --Tractorkingsfan 11:13, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Userpage message moved to Usertalk
Thanks! I didn't even notice it was there... Dina 21:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
 * Interestingly, it appears that the person we're communicating with (and I totally agree with your comments, btw, I tried to do some of the work on the article) has his own, by all appearances not at all vanity, article here: Jonathon Coudrille. Neat huh?  I was thinking about adding a link to it into the Francis Coudrill article, but since that one needs so much work, I didn't want poor Jonathon to get accused of vanity on top of being reverted by a bot and having a "tone" tag...Dina 21:43, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, er, dude; the problem is that it was all so long ago, and so, was i, reasonably speaking. my time is tight: since shingles hit my optic nerve, chunks of my memory are shot, and the labour involved is simply beyond me; however there are obviously cohorts of undead insomniacs out there who might relish archive trawling among the actually dead. He wote, I believe, for 'picture post', and the UK 'TV Comic Annual' but, my father's last surviving friend out there died at ninety six last week, hence my urgency in getting this up; my mother at eighty eight doesn't know what day it is, and the little that i've found on the net is plain inaccurate; seems a pity that junk will stand where the truth will be denied because the quote was festooned in smiles. We can balance it by saying he was authoritarian, violently disapproved of alcohol and wouldn't wear socks. all true. Thanks for your help, I have to sleep now. regards, Jonathon X. Coudrille

No problem, we will work on it for you. I agree that much information is often unfortunately false, especially with people who are not able to defend themselves. I'm sorry to hear of your health problems, my thoughts are with you; and we at WIkipedia work to get the truth out there. --Tractorkingsfan 22:03, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

Sigma Alpha Mu
Regarding the paragraph on the founding of the chapter: like I did with the philanthropy paragraph, there are some items of fact in the paragraph (names of founders, dates) that can be extracted from the circumstantial (frosh-soph rivalry, flowery language). Truthfully, I think the biggest problem with that paragraph is it sounds like it was lifted wholesale from the pledge manual. Overall, yes, there are problems with the article, but they're fixable. —C.Fred (talk) 04:39, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

RE:My RfA
Thank you; I really appreciate that comment. My edit count is the biggest worry I have as far as not being approved. I'm confident in the vast majority of my edits, and I'd like to think that I'm ready. I'll be reaching 3000 edits by next Tuesday probably, and I should probably have waited until then. Oh well, that's my mistake, and I'll have to live with the results whatever they may be. I guess that if I don't get approved it really isn't that big of a deal. Most people recommend waiting at least 3 months before trying again, and by then I would have around 6500 edits if I were to plateau at where I am now (unlikely). Of course I hope to get passed this time around, but if not I'm sure that I would my second time around. Thanks again for your support; it really means a lot. Cheers, --  T H  L  01:17, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

I decided to withdraw. After reading many of the oppose votes, I decided that I wasn't ready yet. Cheers, --  T H  L  04:44, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. For my anti-vandal activities, the best way of putting it is I was very liberal with Blatant Vandal warnings. I'm not sure why, but I thought that the Blatant Vandal warning was for edits that were blatantly vandalism. I guess you save that for people who deserve to get blocked even though almost no one blocks someone who hasn't received a level 4 warning. Oh well, I will listen to the advice. I'll probably try again sometime in April. Thanks for your support, and thanks for listening. Cheers, --  T H  L  05:36, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Sigma Alpha Mu
Yeah, I kind of regret parts of what I wrote and I definetly see how Alan would see that as a personal attack. I hope it isn't. It's just one of those nominations which I really really don't get. He states the article as not being NPOV, original research etc. which are all valid points, however from reading his arguments I feel what he's doing is trying to prove a point which is disruptive. He probably doesn't think it's disruptive because it's all relative but in the past, it conjures up AfD nominations I've seen such as a Medal of Honor Recipients, notable businesses which are regional/national in scope. etc. Despite his many edits, no experienced editor would have ever nominated this for AfD. Anyway, I'm not going back to the Afd page for the article. I said my piece and I don't want to risk going into sometype of flame war. -- † Ðy§ep§ion † Speak your mind 16:54, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

Stop with the garbage
I'll say irrelevant as much as I want. Quit provoking people. It's stupid and I just ignore you 64.149.204.158 23:02, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

This user has been blocked for 3 months as an abusive sockpuppet of Hungrygirl, shocking. Cheers, --  T H  L  04:33, 16 December 2006 (UTC)

No problem. This person is just trying to piss everyone off. Thus far, he has had a minimum of 4 accounts blocked, his home computer's IP blocked for 6 months, and the IP address for the LGBT Community Center in Plano, Texas blocked for 3 months. A new record! (maybe). Cheers, --  T H  L  20:41, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Yes, I'm sick again :(. I never really got over the flu I had before, and it turned into pneumonia. This sucks. Luckily I caught it really early, so maybe the antibiotics will cure it before it gets really bad. I was scared as hell this morning when I woke up with chest pains. I was actually relieved to hear that it was pneumonia and not something with my heart. Cheers, --  T H  L  01:10, 20 December 2006 (UTC)

I noticed your message to Lonelyboy. He will never be given another chance. All future socks will be blocked on sight, and Yandman, me, and others will be keeping an eye on both IP addresses. He is finished. Cheers, --  T H  L  03:51, 23 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Tried to respond on your talk page, but something is going on whereby I am unable to edit your page. Basic idea was thanks for letting me know about Lonelyboy.  Cheers, --Tractorkingsfan 04:43, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

I know what was going on with my talk page. Don't worry about it; it is all taken care of. Anyway, don't let him get under your skin. He has a habit of saying the exact opposite of the truth in an attempt to annoy you. Look at the last message he sent me. This is the one that got the LGBT CC IP blocked...

You're a hypocrite so stop getting mad at other people for doing things that you're doing

''You're asking a lot of your friends to vote for you when you were doing the RfA. That's a real cheap way to become an administrator by asking your friends to vote rather than people who don't know things about you. How you behave hypocritically such as by writing irrelevant things on talk pages (for example the undertaker talk page) and then getting mad at other uses for doing it as I have just read this page where you say you even DELETED info from a talk page because it was irrelevant. Totally hypocritical and on top of that you are not to delete info from talk pages. You do not deserve to be an administrator here at wikipedia. I will not respond to anything disrespectful to this message either. As you can see, I ignored your last messages. 64.149.204.158 22:56, 15 December 2006 (UTC)''

Charming isn't he? All I can say is don't feed the trolls, and don't let them annoy you either. They are worthless to humanity, and don't deserve any power over us. Cheers, --  T H  L  07:05, 23 December 2006 (UTC)

JXC
Greetings, Dude, (I hope I got that right?) Thanks so much for the encouragement and, the compliments. The corporeal is integrated a little better with the astral than when we last communicated, doom a little, even a lot, further off. This 'pooter's been offline tho'; an auto update that disconnected the (rather rude) server at some length. I'm going to put my Pa on (naw, don't laugh...) Myspace for now, Dead Dudes department: at his request we buried him in his full stage cowboy gear, as in the picture, plated six-guns and all. a metal detector would have fits. Anyhow, season's blessings, peace, if that's still a viable commodity, and, If it Ain't, All the best anyhow, JXC Peeyess I've signed up here on the windswept rock for an idle-old-guys course on website design and management, so should be able to pull my languishing site into the late zeros.J

Haha, awesome, yeah you got it perfect, maybe point me a link to the myspace page when you get it running. Later dude. --Tractorkingsfan 20:12, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

My sig should say it all
--  The  Hybrid   wishes  you a Merry Christmas 06:57, 25 December 2006 (UTC)


 * And happy seasonal greetings to you, also. Have a great New Year. Bubba hotep 14:03, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

I may be quitting
I've grown tired of the corruption. Peace, --  The  Hyb  rid  20:46, 21 January 2007 (UTC)

User:Stevenstone93
Just so you know, I removed your notice. It's not simple vandalism but I felt as though it was a valid point and deserved some input. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 11:10, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Yeah good call reporting it. The thing is. It's ok to edit your userpage but you really shouldn't be doing just that. It comes really close to violating Wikipedia is not a free webspace provider. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 11:18, 26 January 2007 (UTC)

I've returned early
Due to some tasteless vandalism of my userpage templates I have decided to return far earlier than I was expecting. Also, congratulations on breaking your cigarette addiction. You should be very proud. Cheers, --  The  Hyb  rid  07:55, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, both my father and one of my brothers quit smoking. My father quit before I was born, but my brother didn't quit until I was around 15. He said that if I ever started he would personally beat the tar out of me. My 6'4" 275 lbs. brother intimidated 5'10" 210 lbs. me very effectively to say the least. Cheers, --  The  Hyb  rid  08:29, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

The Tool
The tool is VandalProof. However, it is very frustrating due to how many errors are in the system. However, if you catch it on a good day it is an absolutely incredible vandal fighting tool. BTW, I don't care if you read over my conversations, or why you do it. Everything on this website is in the public domain, and I am responsible for everything I say and do. Cheers, --  The  Hyb  rid  00:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Also, I have never used that function. It is nothing but a mass of reverts, so any good edits taking place since that time will be lost. It is a dangerous function, and only meant to be used in the cases of vandal bots and the like. Cheers, --  The  Hyb  rid  00:28, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

namecalling
I didn't call you names so please just grow up, I felt thats what you were being just like you think the article is not notable. What even led you into the discussion on the deletion of the band in the first place?--E tac 09:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC) I didn't call you names

Well maybe but I said it because I am trying to keep an article that wikipedia apparently sees as borderline and I decided to check out your pages since you keep harping at me with policy and I honestly didn't think yours was even as notable, I suppose that guy was in a notable band apparently so I apologize for that, but I honestly don't see why this article was nominated in the first place. To be honest I am not even really a fan of this band and like you said on your article you are having trouble finding things on them and the same goes for this band, yet you are arguing against this one and that is why I called you a hypocrite. So I am sorry if I offended you, I should have assumed good faith.--E tac 10:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

Good Call
Hey, just wanted to let you know I respected your comment on Articles for deletion/Eternal Decision. Sometimes I get heated on those things and forget the inherent lack of gravity of the situation we're in here. It takes somebody coming in from the outside and sizing it up with a level-head to get my perspective back in order. Which you did. so thanks. May you have good health, --Tractorkingsfan 04:30, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. The nature of internet communication in general and the nature of Wiki in particular can generate a lot of stress. We've all been in a situation where we are reacting HUGELY to something very minor. Have your say and fight for your corner for sure. But work in some other area of Wiki or sit down and have a nice cup of tea when someone starts getting personal or acting like a dick. Keep well. SilkTork 08:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

Thank You for Smoking
I apologize for not responding to the talk page of this film article sooner. The film article isn't one of my more closely-watched articles, so I missed your message. I've suggested reading WP:AVTRIV, because no film article of Good Article or Featured Article status has a Trivia section. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 14:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


 * No problem. I like the film, but it's hard to take the time to improve the articles for each film I like (as there are quite a few).  I'm more of an upcoming-film person on this Wikipedia thing -- less information to worry about, and the article can be built up by its release date (you can see that being done with Spider-Man 3 and The Dark Knight).  If you need any help or suggestions regarding article improvement, you know how to reach me. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 23:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)


 * Nice job integrating the trivia. Granted, it's not the prettiest film article on Wikipedia, but you took the appropriate actions in merging the content with the rest of the article body.  Are you planning to develop the article any further, or was this a one-stop deal? —Erik (talk • contrib) - 00:15, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

What happened was that if you have a single space before the beginning of a paragraph, it will cause that format. You can see it happen here below:

Thank You for Smoking.

So just delete the space, and you're OK. I also removed a  tag that was hanging out in the lead paragraph for some reason. Take a look at the current revision and make sure that I've reverted properly; I'm not sure if I've put your changes back or not. —Erik (talk • contrib) - 13:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

RE
First off you will have to redo the code since you didn't delete the around the 5. Also, make sure you write something on the target page first, or it won't work. Cheers, --  The  Hyb  rid  23:20, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

It should work now. Of course, only time can guarantee that, but I think it will. Cheers, --  The  Hyb  rid  02:42, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Easy There
Put my archive in the right place for goodness sake? That's a little much. Obviously, I don't know where that is. I've emailed the creator of the bot about it, but have received no response. Maybe instead of being a pissed off little curmudgeon and beginning your talk page by telling people what you are "sick and tired" of, as if anyone cares, you should try teaching people you find to be in the wrong. Thanks, --Tractorkingsfan 22:25, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

Oh, and here's a link to my talk page, wouldn't want to upset you about that, either. Honestly, it's wikipedia, there are people of all different levels of ability. If you know how do something and someone else does not, does that entitle you to some absurd superiority complex disguised as grumpiness? Not at all is the answer to that one. --Tractorkingsfan 22:33, 1 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Did you actually check what my edit had been? Did it not occur to you that I had put it in the right place for you? I am very sorry, I shall try and spell things out more carefully for people in the future. -- RHaworth 06:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

Eternal Decision
I am not at all happy with the way that E tac was behaving, and, as I guess you may have realised, I have also decided not to vote in the discussion. However, after a VERY long discussion with E tac, I think he has realised that the band article deserves to go. Just leave it, I guess. J Milburn 12:20, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

RE
The code for my signature is The Hyb rid. The way you change the color of words is by typing . Since the part after the | in links is what is displayed, that is where you change the color of the links. There is a large list of colors available to use on Wikipedia, and I don't have them all memorized. Mostly just use guess and check when looking for a specific one. If you want more detail, just ask. If you want to highlight your words I can teach you, but it turns off some people, as they find it distracting. Cheers, --  The  Hyb  rid  07:33, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Yep, and you have to make sure that Raw Signature is checked, or the entire thing will show up in nowiki format as a link to your user page. Cheers, --  The  Hyb  rid  07:38, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Ok, new sig unveiled -- Tractor  kings  fan  07:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Sorry, I logged off for a few minutes. It works, I like it. Cheers, --  The  Hyb  rid  08:07, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

Re:Question
I found a free use image on flicr.com pretty easily that shouldn't get deleted unless the user takes his pics down and I uploaded it and added it to the infobox. I'd suggest adding a list of the groups discography to the article.--E tac 08:53, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Question
In the RfC/Calton talk page, you called an editor a "disruptive sockpuppet"....I don't think you were, but I hope you were not calling me a "disruptive sockpuppet", as I am not a sock (little joke there) nor a sockpuppet. If you were refering to someone else, my apologizes for my confusion. - SVRTVDude (Yell - Toil) 05:55, 19 February 2007 (UTC)