User talk:Tracy3405

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Thanks for experimenting with Wikipedia. Your recent edit appears to have added incorrect information, and has been reverted or removed. All information in the encyclopedia must be verifiable in a reliable published source. If you believe the information you added was correct, please cite references or sources or discuss the changes on the article's talk page before making them. Please use the sandbox for any other tests you want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia. —C.Fred (talk) 05:27, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

Please do not add content without citing reliable sources. Before making potentially controversial edits, it is recommended that you discuss them first on the article's talk page. If you are familiar with Citing sources please take this opportunity to add references to the article. Contact me if you need assistance adding references. —C.Fred (talk) 05:38, 5 May 2008 (UTC)

In reply to your email:
 * The edit information I provided for Kathy Hilton's page regarding her place of birth is correct. The Dear Stacy/The National Ledger and the LA Business Journal information is NOT correct.
 * Kathy Hilton was born in Mineola, New York, NOT Whittier, CA. She first moved to California (from New York) at the age of 7.

How do you know the information you have is correct? There are two published sources—and I'm not sure about the National Ledger, but I accept the LA Business Journal as reliable—that say she was born in Whittier. The only source for Mineola is a new user to Wikipedia who, 6 minutes after signing up, starts changing an article.

Verifiability is pretty direct in the first paragraph: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." Currently, Whittier is the most verifiable place of birth, so that's what should be present in the article at this time.

Going back to my previous question. How do you know the information you have is correct? If you attempt to change the article again, I see three paths that can result:
 * 1) You change the article because you have a reliable source, which you cite. If the information can be verified with the source, the article can then be changed—though there may need to be consensus reached among editors at the article, since we'll have contradicting sources.
 * 2) You change the article because you have some first-hand knowledge of the subject. In this case, see Autobiography for more details. Ultimately, you'd need to email [mailto:info-en-q@wikimedia.org info-en-q@wikimedia.org] with details of the information and your credentials, rather than changing the article directly. The information will be verified behind the scenes, and if everything checks out, the change will ultimately be made at the office-action level.
 * 3) You change the article again without further explanation. In the absence of information to be verified by either other editors or through an email request, the article is reverted back to the verified source. Ultimately, if you repeat that action, your account may wind up blocked for disruptive editing.

Needless to say, I hope you don't follow path #3. If you can back up the change, please follow path #1 or #2. Otherwise, please leave the article alone.

If you wish to discuss the matter further, a topic is open at Talk:Kathy Hilton related to her place of birth, or you can reply to my comments either here or at my talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 12:22, 5 May 2008 (UTC)