User talk:Trader john1

Your submission at Articles for creation: Griffin Applied Economics Incubator (May 17)
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CommanderWaterford (talk) 17:38, 17 May 2021 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Draft:Griffin Applied Economics Incubator


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May 2021
Hello Trader john1. The nature of your edits gives the impression you have an undisclosed financial stake in promoting a topic, but you have not complied with Wikipedia's mandatory paid editing disclosure requirements. Paid advocacy is a category of conflict of interest (COI) editing that involves being compensated by a person, group, company or organization to use Wikipedia to promote their interests. Undisclosed paid advocacy is prohibited by our policies on neutral point of view and what Wikipedia is not, and is an especially serious type of COI; the Wikimedia Foundation regards it as a "black hat" practice akin to black-hat search-engine optimization.

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Regardless, if you are receiving or expect to receive compensation for your edits, broadly construed, you are  required by the Wikimedia Terms of Use to disclose your employer, client and affiliation. You can post such a mandatory disclosure to your user page at User:Trader john1. The template Paid can be used for this purpose – e.g. in the form:. If I am mistaken – you are not being directly or indirectly compensated for your edits – please state that in response to this message. Otherwise, please provide the required disclosure. In either case, do not edit further until you answer this message. --- Possibly (talk) 18:07, 17 May 2021 (UTC)


 * I have not received any compensation for my edits. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trader john1 (talk • contribs)
 * Thanks Do you also mean you are not connected to the Griffin Applied Economics Incubator or the University of Chicago? That page strongly looks like it wss done by someone connected.--- Possibly (talk) 20:35, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I am a 72 years old mathematician from Florida. I am not connected to the University of Chicago, nor the incubator. What is wrong with the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trader john1 (talk • contribs)
 * Copyright issue: it was deleted because it was largely copied from the Internet. --- Possibly (talk) 16:21, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

Understood. Thank you
 * You seem to be involved in promoting Kenneth Griffin across different wikis. Many of the edits are quite advanced. Any comment on that?--- Possibly (talk) 18:46, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
 * This is my first edit. It has many layers. Also, I noticed his article contains un-encyclopedic and excessive content. I have tried to cleaned it on the simple english link. I have also added relevant links and pictures. Please, check.
 * Please WP:SIGN your posts. Are you working for Griffin? your editing on Griffin is quite advanced, across Wikidata, Spanish Wikipedia and Simple Wiki. Here's a 4K edit on Simple Wikipedia. --- Possibly (talk) 19:12, 18 May 2021 (UTC)

I don't understand. I asked you to please check the edits on Simple English wiki, my wife did the Spanish translation, she is from Argentina. How do I sign?Trader john1 (talk) 08:07, 19 May 2021 (UTC) Will we have to give an explanation for every article or just the first one? Thank you.
 * You still have not answered if you are connected to Griffin. Your edits across multiple wikis look exactly like paid editing or COI editing, for which we have specific guidelines. For example in this one you remove negative coverage, which is a hallmark of paid editors. Please explain.--- Possibly (talk) 08:40, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Hi, I am not connected to Griffin either. I was trying to remove the un-encyclopedic or excessive content, as you said, it seems more like negative or revenge content. I don´t think this type of content will hurt Mr. Griffin, but I consider more important to use the content to inspire and educate younger generations. I don't have millions to donate to an university, but I served my country in the military, as a 72 years old veteran this is the best I can do, we have a responsibility as a society to educate. It is my humble opinion. My wife and I were enjoying the edits :) How do I sing? Trader john1 (talk) 08:59, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * The edits you are making, only to Kenneth C Griffin Subjects, across multiple wikis, make you look like a non-neutral editor. You haven't really explained this. "Promoting a cause" is generally not allowed on the wiki, as it impedes our pursuit of neutrality.--- Possibly (talk) 09:16, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

I still don't understand what you mean. We just started few days ago, this is our first article. We first saw the incubator, I thought it was relevant and inspiring that they have a Nobel prize https://news.uchicago.edu/story/nobel-winning-economist-michael-kremer-join-uchicago-faculty-university-professor. I agree with you, it should promote neutrality, not hate, I will add the content should be enciclopedic, we don't know who could be inspired by and want to change the world, it is our duty :) Trader john1 (talk) 09:28, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * it's one person, one account. That is a strict rule here. See the discussion mentioned below.--- Possibly (talk) 09:32, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Yes, we use the same computer. Is that wrong? I checked the comments below. I totally agree, unconstructed edits shouldn't be allowed, nor un-encyclopedic.Trader john1 (talk) 09:46, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Do you mean you are two people using the same account, as in "Trader John1" is two people, husband/wife team? Quite an efficient approach.--- Possibly (talk) 10:18, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Correct, my wife and I. Are you connected to Mr. Griffin? You seem to be taking our edits very personal. Why?Trader john1 (talk) 10:29, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
 * I have no connection at all, Never heard of him before I ran into you. Two people, one account is not allowed. You are also edit warring. --- Possibly (talk) 10:34, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Edit warring
Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. You appear to be repeatedly reverting or undoing other editors' contributions at Kenneth C. Griffin. Although this may seem necessary to protect your preferred version of a page, on Wikipedia this is known as "edit warring" and is usually seen as obstructing the normal editing process, as it often creates animosity between editors. Instead of reverting, please discuss the situation with the editor(s) involved and try to reach a consensus on the talk page.

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Cluebot notice
Please refrain from making unconstructive edits to Wikipedia, as you did at Kenneth C. Griffin. Your edits continue to appear to constitute vandalism and have been automatically reverted. Thank you. ClueBot NG (talk) 08:31, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
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Notice of Conflict of interest noticeboard discussion
There is currently a discussion at Conflict of interest/Noticeboard regarding a possible conflict of interest incident with which you may be involved. Thank you. --- Possibly (talk) 09:27, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Notice of edit warring noticeboard discussion
Hello. This message is being sent to inform you that there is currently a discussion involving you at Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring regarding a possible violation of Wikipedia's policy on edit warring. The thread is Administrators' noticeboard/Edit warring. Thank you. --- Possibly (talk) 11:42, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

Blocked
I have indefinitely blocked you because of your violations of Wikipedia policies, including WP:COI and WP:ROLE. You have shown no interest in ceasing your disruptive editing with respect to Kenneth C. Griffin and related articles, as reported at WP:AN3 and WP:COIN. See WP:GAB for your appeal rights.

Any administrator may unblock you if you acknowledge your conflict of interest and agree that you will not directly edit the Griffin article or any other articles related to Griffin, but instead will use article Talk pages to suggest changes to those articles. You must also cease to accuse other editors of taking your edits "personally", as such accusations consitute personal attacks and are in and of themselves a basis for blocking you.--Bbb23 (talk) 13:50, 19 May 2021 (UTC)