User talk:Traditional unionist/Archives/2006/April

Drumcree
Hello Trad! I was wondering about the correction you made to Drumcree Church. Whilst I wrote the original article I'm the first to admit that I'm no expert on the Orange Order and NI politics in general. Perhaps you could expand on the reason for the service. I notice that the first service at the church was held in 1807, but you say the service and march commemmorate a WWI battle in 1916. Are there some missing facts here? Much of my source material came from the Parish of Drumcree website. Thanks, Arcturus 19:01, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

The contested march at Drumcree is to and from a service in the Church to commemorate the Battle of the Somme. That is what I assumed that reference was about.Traditional unionist 13:30, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

MY ADDITION TO THE PAGE (WHICH THE IRISH NATIONALISTS ARE TRYING TO CENSOR):
While his books are clearly written from a nationalist perspective, and the republican apologeticism in, for example, his book, The IRA''', is redolent on every page, Coogan always successfully maintained the pose of a moderate. However the republican irredentism and political extremism which Coogan put on display in a piece written for the New York-based Irish Voice just before the 90th anniversary of the Easter Rising put an end to any claim of moderation which Coogan (who blames the Troubles in Northern Ireland on Unionism, especially "Paisleyism") can henceforth make (see []), should he bother to do so.

From the 4/12/2006-4/18/2006 New York Irish Voice (page 11) entitled "The Lessons of 1916":

Questions like [sic] should 1916 be commemorated? Should there be a military parade? These questions are in reality irritating diversionary tactics utilized by those whose real mental posture is the colonial cringe and whose political philosophy is crypto unionism. The basic importance of 1916 is that it formed a substantive, motivating role in the securing of independence, one of the three great turning points of Ireland in the 20th century...[w]ithout the foregoing the Republic today would be on the same handout level as the six counties, and to a lesser degree Scotland and Wales.

Coogan is a gifted writer and a dogged researcher, but he never was, is not now, and never will be, an objective historian about the Irish Troubles (unlike writers such as Peter Taylor and the late J. Bowyer Bell).'''

THIS IS WHAT DEMIURGE, DJEGAN AND THEIR LACKEYS ARE TRYING TO CENSOR. PLEASE STAND UP FOR WHAT IS RIGHT AND PROTECT THIS SOURCED AND CITED INFO. WHICH HAS EVERY RIGHT TO APPEAR ON COOGAN'S WIKIPAGE GIVEN THAT IT IS A PUBLIC MANIFESTATION OF HIS TRUE IRREDENTIST POLITICAL BELIEFS. JUST BECAUSE COOGAN DID NOT REALIZE THAT THE SMALL NY IRISH WEEKLY HE WROTE IT TO (THE NY IRISH VOICE) WAS SUBJECT TO BEING REVIEWED BY PEOPLE OF A DIFFERENT POLITICAL PERSUASION, DOES NOT MEAN HIS PUBLIC REMARKS SHOULD BE CENSORED FROM THE WORLD AT LARGE.

70.19.67.28 00:14, 20 April 2006 (UTC)